Karma bitting Apple .... Hard
Did apple think this was not going to happen?? http://www.techspot.com/news/47309-motorola-blocks-some-apple-devices-in-ger... -- GG
Motorola is a small company, Germany a tiny market.
Tiny market??!! Germany is the biggest economy in europe and the 4th largest in the world with a population of over 80 million, Google did not buy Motorola Mobility just for the sake of it.... Luca Neghesti @simplyluca Sent from my mobile device -----Original Message----- From: Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> Sender: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:51:37 To: Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Karma bitting Apple .... Hard _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
A small company? Remember Google is buying this small company. Then Germany is a huge. Did you know also know some of the iPhone components are manufactured in Germany? ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Philip Musyoki" <pmusyoki@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 9:51:37 AM | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Karma bitting Apple .... Hard | Motorola is a small company, Germany a tiny market. | _______________________________________________ | Skunkworks mailing list | Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | ------------ | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | ------------ | Skunkworks Rules | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | ------------ | Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Btw, these injunctions only mean that you cannot sell the phones through official channels, so the Apple stores wont be able to sell but phone shops can still sell. That is the loophole Samsung used when Apple won an injunction last year ./Ok3ch On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Germany a tiny market.
Germany is the 4th largest economy globally... not exactly what I'd call tiny...
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Phares Kaboro Kariuki
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On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Btw, these injunctions only mean that you cannot sell the phones through official channels, so the Apple stores wont be able to sell but phone shops can still sell. That is the loophole Samsung used when Apple won an injunction last year
Kinda beats the purpose, don't you think? BR S
It actually beats the purpose, although, for like Samsung, all products in the EU are distributed from Netherlands, so an injunction there can actually hurt more. I have no idea whether Apple also have a centralized distribution location in the EU though, so if it is Germany, they they have to remodel their distribution channels. ./Ok3ch On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Btw, these injunctions only mean that you cannot sell the phones through official channels, so the Apple stores wont be able to sell but phone shops can still sell. That is the loophole Samsung used when Apple won an injunction last year
Kinda beats the purpose, don't you think?
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BTW, the Appeals court has overturned the ban, so Apple wins round 2 - http://www.cellular-news.com/story/52896.php?s=h ./Ok3ch On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
It actually beats the purpose, although, for like Samsung, all products in the EU are distributed from Netherlands, so an injunction there can actually hurt more. I have no idea whether Apple also have a centralized distribution location in the EU though, so if it is Germany, they they have to remodel their distribution channels.
./Ok3ch
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Btw, these injunctions only mean that you cannot sell the phones through official channels, so the Apple stores wont be able to sell but phone shops can still sell. That is the loophole Samsung used when Apple won an injunction last year
Kinda beats the purpose, don't you think?
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Hey, I am just talking on the broader bigger picture perspective of things. Motorola Revenues: $10B, Apple Revenues: $ 108 B last year, this year around $ 200 B, around $ 5 B from Germany. World population: 7 B, Germany's population: 80 M. There, you have them. The numbers. Whatever Apple makes in Germany can be made cheaply by other suppliers in other countries. The wehrmacht republic, just like Europe, is become old and irrelevant.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey, I am just talking on the broader bigger picture perspective of things. Motorola Revenues: $10B, Apple Revenues: $ 108 B last year, this year around $ 200 B, around $ 5 B from Germany. World population: 7 B, Germany's population: 80 M.
There, you have them. The numbers.
Whatever Apple makes in Germany can be made cheaply by other suppliers in other countries. The wehrmacht republic, just like Europe, is become old and irrelevant.
Again, 2.5% of Apple's revenue (from your stat's) will come from Germany (one country), that's significant... That's Apple total production for around 1.5 weeks. It's significant... Europe is getting less significant, but don't make the same mistake about Germany, they are currently the dominant EU force http://www.economist.com/node/21543159 Germany's GDP is higher than all of Africa. Apple are in it for the money... Are things over for the EU? Probably, for Germany? I wouldn't count them out, like Russia, they are somehow re-inventing themselves. East Africa has a higher population than Germany, but we don't have money for iPhones, so in Germany per-capita GDP is 37,000 USD in Germany (roughly), 1,600 USD in Kenya from Wikipedia. Logic has it (Apple is in the premium product space) that on average, the Kenyan cannot afford an iPhone, while on average, the German can... In terms of pure sales, in the premium space, you go to where the money is, not where the numbers are... If you were talking about collapsing economies with dead manufacturing units like France/Italy/UK etc, I'd agree, but have a closer look at the German economy, it's very sustainable, their only risk is dwindling population... A simple example is their foray into renewable energy... http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/09/germany-continu... My point is simply that Germany is a little too significant to write off... It will take us at least 40 years to catch up, all factors remaining constant... -- Warm Regards, Phares Kaboro Kariuki
http://www.techspot.com/news/47381-apple-sued-for-16-billion-for-using-ipad-... ..i know Karma is a b**** but this is going to get ridiculous On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey, I am just talking on the broader bigger picture perspective of things. Motorola Revenues: $10B, Apple Revenues: $ 108 B last year, this year around $ 200 B, around $ 5 B from Germany. World population: 7 B, Germany's population: 80 M.
There, you have them. The numbers.
Whatever Apple makes in Germany can be made cheaply by other suppliers in other countries. The wehrmacht republic, just like Europe, is become old and irrelevant.
Again, 2.5% of Apple's revenue (from your stat's) will come from Germany (one country), that's significant... That's Apple total production for around 1.5 weeks. It's significant...
Europe is getting less significant, but don't make the same mistake about Germany, they are currently the dominant EU force http://www.economist.com/node/21543159
Germany's GDP is higher than all of Africa. Apple are in it for the money... Are things over for the EU? Probably, for Germany? I wouldn't count them out, like Russia, they are somehow re-inventing themselves. East Africa has a higher population than Germany, but we don't have money for iPhones, so in Germany per-capita GDP is 37,000 USD in Germany (roughly), 1,600 USD in Kenya from Wikipedia. Logic has it (Apple is in the premium product space) that on average, the Kenyan cannot afford an iPhone, while on average, the German can... In terms of pure sales, in the premium space, you go to where the money is, not where the numbers are... If you were talking about collapsing economies with dead manufacturing units like France/Italy/UK etc, I'd agree, but have a closer look at the German economy, it's very sustainable, their only risk is dwindling population... A simple example is their foray into renewable energy... http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2011/09/germany-continu...
My point is simply that Germany is a little too significant to write off... It will take us at least 40 years to catch up, all factors remaining constant... -- Warm Regards,
Phares Kaboro Kariuki
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-- GG
I wonder how the United States Mobile industry has benefited From all the suing and countersuing. I should have studied to become a patent lawyer
https://www.linux.com/news/friday-funnies/when-modern-business-practices-att... On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder how the United States Mobile industry has benefited From all the suing and countersuing. I should have studied to become a patent lawyer
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You have to see the humour "Judge Andreas Voss issued a permanent injunction against iCloud and any devices that use it, for allegedly violating an old patent that Motorola holds related to two-way communications between pagers" Am sure the Moto guys are rolling on the floor laughing ... Kiania D. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:49 AM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
Did apple think this was not going to happen??
http://www.techspot.com/news/47309-motorola-blocks-some-apple-devices-in-ger...
-- GG
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participants (10)
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Anderson Levi -
David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd -
Dennis Kioko -
geoffrey gitagia -
luca＠tristarafrica.com -
Okechukwu -
Phares Kariuki -
Philip Musyoki -
Steve Muchai -
Steve Obbayi