Thanks Edith, Peter, Emmanuel & Nicholas, Ideas well noted. Let's stay the course on this, and I suppose for the first time ever, we all now have this excellent opportunity to contribute to the development & rollout of a very useful tool to be freely available to all. This tool should empower us all to be policing & enforcement citizens., custodians of the environment around us for posterity.. Listers, what else in form of features do you want to see in this app..? Bw. Permanent Secretary, - Well, ideas might still be coming in, but what help could we get to have regulation/law developed alongside such tool for enforcement. Regards, Harry From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:05 PM To: harry@comtelsys.co.ke Cc: Director General; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING? Emmanuel, I would suggest electronic payment (via mPesa type..), no cash transactions. I hope the developers are listening. ICT Board could run a competition for such an app development - Paul? Edith --________________ Edith Ofwona Adera Senior Program Specialist Climate Change and Water Program Agriculture and Environment International Development Research Centre Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa Liason House 2nd floor, State House Avenue, Nairobi, Kenya +254-20-2713160/1 | Fax: +254-20-2711063 | Mobile: +254-733-624345 eadera@idrc.ca | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca From: Emmanuel Khisa [mailto:oloo.khisa@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:00 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: oloo.khisa@gmail.com; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; Director General Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING? Washy, Please add the good Director General. I think in addition to Thika road, Kenha and indeed government agencies must begin to be abit more proactive and I dare say abit more reactive. I would particularly want to know from Kenha if continous monitoring and review of roads under their watch is part of their mandate (i.e classes A,B,C). If it is, I believe we need to see abit more monitoring. Thika road is a symptom of a larger malaise, lack of monitoring and review. So we dismiss everything roads as just normal complaints by Kenyans. I think as a people we just must style up for how do we explain someone doing 100kph on a rainy highway with poor visibility. Regarding the app, we could built an mwallet into it and have the arresting officer collect the cash and push the payment into the system through this mobile app. He can then bank the money later. This way the cop gets to issue a ticket (fine) and the offense also get booked. My two cents I think this is just plain IRRESPONSIBLE. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote: Meant to add. I have been reliably informed that Eng Kidenda, in-charge of Kenyan roads has been alerted to this Thika road issue raised on KICTANET. Can we have him enlisted on KICTANET (administrators?) so he can respond to issues raised and his statement should also go to all Kenyans as Thika Road is a major problem and something needs to be done urgently. Lets not wait for it to claim the live of a prominent person to act! The app idea could also be supported by KENHA Edith -________________ Edith Ofwona Adera Senior Program Specialist Climate Change and Water Program Agriculture and Environment International Development Research Centre Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa Liason House 2nd floor, State House Avenue, Nairobi, Kenya +254-20-2713160/1 | Fax: +254-20-2711063 <tel:%2B254-20-2711063> | Mobile: +254-733-624345 <tel:%2B254-733-624345> eadera@idrc.ca | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca From: Edith Adera Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:53 AM To: 'harry@comtelsys.co.ke' Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: RE: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING? Great ideas - how will corruption be stemmed to avoid people bribing their way out of traffic offences? The app needs to make the information transparent and any fines paid automatically registered in the system and within public domain. After all our President lauded the use of ICTs (and social media) to address development challenges yesterday. I say yes to this app. Call it eBarabara! Edith --________________ Edith Ofwona Adera Senior Program Specialist Climate Change and Water Program Agriculture and Environment International Development Research Centre Regional Office for Eastern and Southern Africa Liason House 2nd floor, State House Avenue, Nairobi, Kenya +254-20-2713160/1 | Fax: +254-20-2711063 <tel:%2B254-20-2711063> | Mobile: +254-733-624345 <tel:%2B254-733-624345> eadera@idrc.ca | www.idrc.ca | www.crdi.ca From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera <mailto:kictanet-bounces%2Beadera> =idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 6:54 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions' Subject: Re: [kictanet] [Skunkworks] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING? Thanks for the responses. I believe we can put all these lovely ideas together and move to address the issue. Am thinking of a mobile app, to deal with this and a host of other issues around us. One that is freely accessible and available to everyone. Some discussion points:- I need to know - . How can I proceed - I've a no. of ideas and need to work with some developers on the prototype - incubate and develop it. . How can such idea be funded, for public good. Are there avenues..? . How can we have the idea ( if viable), facilitated with relevant structures such as the legal framework for it to work..? . What would be the ideal procedure, taking the above into account, in order to arrive at a National app to make Kenya & beyond a better place..? Regards, Harry From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:34 PM To: kris njoroge Cc: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] [kictanet] DEADLY THIKA ROAD - WHO IS LISTENING? I think we are taking this matter casually yet it presents an opportunity for innovators, any time i have been driven around europe i have noted that the drivers are very weary of cameras, most of the GPS systems even detect cameras in the vicinity, this deters any drivers who are tempted to speed or commit any traffic crimes, Cameras are very effective in that they can capture a cars number plate, with these police can go after the owners of the vehicles who will in turn produce the people who were driving the car or take responsibility for the crime. In simple times technology can help the police enforce the law since human beings have a natural affinity to break the law. My 2 cents On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:09 PM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote: In my view we need a total overhaul of the whole system a change of attitude by everybody drivers, pedestrians cart pusher everybody. Technology cannot operate in a vaccum so was caught on camera speeding so how do you follow up. I think we should all be forced to go back to school and made to understand what it entails to be on the carriageway. Had asked earlier what distance would be appropriate to keep between cars when traveling at 100kph? You were never taught that in school and nrever tested on it so why would you be surprised when there is a multiple pile up. We generally don't value human life is driving under the influence legal? Road signs are required everywhere not just on Thika road basically we just need to change how we relate with the road. -- Barrack O. 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