If Architects Had to Work Like Web Designers
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
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lol Classic stuff! Consultants are truly screwed.
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Couldnt have put it better.
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How do you guys handle projects that have grown out of scope such that you are now doing things that you had not accounted financial and manpower resources to ? Perhaps projects that the client keeps adding and changing requirements 2009/10/7 Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com>
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Couldnt have put it better.
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Could not have put it better myself! On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
How do you guys handle projects that have grown out of scope such that you are now doing things that you had not accounted financial and manpower resources to ? Perhaps projects that the client keeps adding and changing requirements 2009/10/7 Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com>
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@Dennis, have an agreement at the start stating the scope of the project. Then have a detailed Terms of Service to cover yourself 2009/10/7 Edwin Kaduki <ekaduki@gmail.com>
Could not have put it better myself!
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One of the problems is that most users have this perception that it's all very easy. I think in their minds all we usually do is open up some fancy software and have a button - CLICK HERE TO GENERATE COMPLEX WEB APPLICATION On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
@Dennis, have an agreement at the start stating the scope of the project. Then have a detailed Terms of Service to cover yourself
2009/10/7 Edwin Kaduki <ekaduki@gmail.com>
Could not have put it better myself!
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How do you guys handle projects that have grown out of scope such that you are now doing things that you had not accounted financial and manpower resources to ? Perhaps projects that the client keeps adding and changing requirements 2009/10/7 Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com>
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thanks Gichingiri. I guess I should have attended all my Software Requirement analysis classes. i remember seeing something like that in the notes. 2009/10/7 Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>
@Dennis, have an agreement at the start stating the scope of the project. Then have a detailed Terms of Service to cover yourself
2009/10/7 Edwin Kaduki <ekaduki@gmail.com>
Could not have put it better myself!
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
How do you guys handle projects that have grown out of scope such that you are now doing things that you had not accounted financial and manpower resources to ? Perhaps projects that the client keeps adding and changing requirements 2009/10/7 Edwin Wambua <eddwak@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Gichingiri Kuria < gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Couldnt have put it better.
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Sounds like a TKL RFP :-) Nkatha Makeba There is no poverty that can overcome diligence 2009/10/6 Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>
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