A friend of mine from Germany, a remote small town 30K residents has this 100Mbps link on coax cable, its a triple play, it this what we should expect from Zuku? and now I hear Safcom is testing LTE which promises almost the same ... would we be right to say that in the near future we will have these crazy speeds? question is are we ready as a Kenyan market for such speeds? My parents back in the village do not have even a dial up, why varied reasons ... this friend of mine is almost the same age with my dad yet he is over excited by the speeds .. what will have to change in our setting to 'entice' the masses with data ... I know for the Young urban its the thing to be on FB shall we say Thats it for Data ... I still think we are still a 'Voice' only country ... -- Watson Kambo
Does anyone have the info on the combined capacity of all the fibre optic cables we have in Kenya? How many dedicated 100Mbps links would it take to exhaust that capacity? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
A friend of mine from Germany, a remote small town 30K residents has this 100Mbps link on coax cable, its a triple play, it this what we should expect from Zuku? and now I hear Safcom is testing LTE which promises almost the same ... would we be right to say that in the near future we will have these crazy speeds? question is are we ready as a Kenyan market for such speeds? My parents back in the village do not have even a dial up, why varied reasons ... this friend of mine is almost the same age with my dad yet he is over excited by the speeds .. what will have to change in our setting to 'entice' the masses with data ... I know for the Young urban its the thing to be on FB shall we say Thats it for Data ... I still think we are still a 'Voice' only country ...
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On 02/09/2010 2:20 p, Watson Kambo wrote:
A friend of mine from Germany, a remote small town 30K residents has this 100Mbps link on coax cable, its a triple play, it this what we should expect from Zuku? and now I hear Safcom is testing LTE which promises almost the same ... would we be right to say that in the near future we will have these crazy speeds? question is are we ready as a Kenyan market for such speeds? My parents back in the village do not have even a dial up, why varied reasons ... this friend of mine is almost the same age with my dad yet he is over excited by the speeds .. what will have to change in our setting to 'entice' the masses with data ... I know for the Young urban its the thing to be on FB shall we say Thats it for Data ... I still think we are still a 'Voice' only country ...
-- Watson Kambo
- Internet TV (imagine 1080p on 4:3) 1080 x 1443 pixels x 25 frames per second = 38,961,000 bytes per second = 30Mbps tuseme 32bit color depth = 960Mbps - already more than 100MBps Gone !just for good quality TV via internet - ooh i havent put the sound in which would be probably - Internet Telephone - 8,000 Hz 8bit sound? - Internet Radio - Tuseme CD quality 44,100Hz at 16 bit (2 bytes x 44,100)= 705,600 bytes per second ooh at 5:1 that's 6 channels = 42Mbps mp3 would do about 1/10 of that but not quite streamble.. Figures would be a little lower because of compression but ... 100Mbps can be used; as fast as a kawaida LAN but you'd not get 100Mbps it would depend on the source and all the points in between. -- Jangita | +256 76 91 8383 | Y! & MSN: jangita@yahoo.com Skype: jangita | GTalk: jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com
Actually its not internet TV acording not even Digital to him its Analogue, cable TV but they offer 100Mbps via the same cable ofcourse not Dedicated but I should guess going by the trend of Zuku where I have 1Mbps and the max is 700Kbps then if Zuku was to offer 100Mbps at least 50Mbps should get to you which is still pretty fast ... On 2 September 2010 16:23, Jangita <jangita@jangita.com> wrote:
On 02/09/2010 2:20 p, Watson Kambo wrote:
A friend of mine from Germany, a remote small town 30K residents has this 100Mbps link on coax cable, its a triple play, it this what we should expect from Zuku? and now I hear Safcom is testing LTE which promises almost the same ... would we be right to say that in the near future we will have these crazy speeds? question is are we ready as a Kenyan market for such speeds? My parents back in the village do not have even a dial up, why varied reasons ... this friend of mine is almost the same age with my dad yet he is over excited by the speeds .. what will have to change in our setting to 'entice' the masses with data ... I know for the Young urban its the thing to be on FB shall we say Thats it for Data ... I still think we are still a 'Voice' only country ...
-- Watson Kambo
- Internet TV (imagine 1080p on 4:3) 1080 x 1443 pixels x 25 frames per second = 38,961,000 bytes per second = 30Mbps tuseme 32bit color depth = 960Mbps - already more than 100MBps Gone !just for good quality TV via internet - ooh i havent put the sound in which would be probably
- Internet Telephone - 8,000 Hz 8bit sound?
- Internet Radio - Tuseme CD quality 44,100Hz at 16 bit (2 bytes x 44,100)= 705,600 bytes per second ooh at 5:1 that's 6 channels = 42Mbps mp3 would do about 1/10 of that but not quite streamble..
Figures would be a little lower because of compression but ... 100Mbps can be used; as fast as a kawaida LAN but you'd not get 100Mbps it would depend on the source and all the points in between.
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So after some digging. EASSY 3.84Tbps Seacom - 0.1Tbps (active) TEAMS 0.04Tbps (active) TOTAL - 3.99Tbps I stand to be corrected but does this not equate to less than 4,000 links of dedicated 1Gbps. I understand that for $215 you can get 1Gbps link in China. Am I the only person that is bothered by these facts? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Watson Kambo <wkwats@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually its not internet TV acording not even Digital to him its Analogue, cable TV but they offer 100Mbps via the same cable ofcourse not Dedicated but I should guess going by the trend of Zuku where I have 1Mbps and the max is 700Kbps then if Zuku was to offer 100Mbps at least 50Mbps should get to you which is still pretty fast ...
On 2 September 2010 16:23, Jangita <jangita@jangita.com> wrote:
On 02/09/2010 2:20 p, Watson Kambo wrote:
A friend of mine from Germany, a remote small town 30K residents has this 100Mbps link on coax cable, its a triple play, it this what we should expect from Zuku? and now I hear Safcom is testing LTE which promises almost the same ... would we be right to say that in the near future we will have these crazy speeds? question is are we ready as a Kenyan market for such speeds? My parents back in the village do not have even a dial up, why varied reasons ... this friend of mine is almost the same age with my dad yet he is over excited by the speeds .. what will have to change in our setting to 'entice' the masses with data ... I know for the Young urban its the thing to be on FB shall we say Thats it for Data ... I still think we are still a 'Voice' only country ...
-- Watson Kambo
- Internet TV (imagine 1080p on 4:3) 1080 x 1443 pixels x 25 frames per second = 38,961,000 bytes per second = 30Mbps tuseme 32bit color depth = 960Mbps - already more than 100MBps Gone !just for good quality TV via internet - ooh i havent put the sound in which would be probably
- Internet Telephone - 8,000 Hz 8bit sound?
- Internet Radio - Tuseme CD quality 44,100Hz at 16 bit (2 bytes x 44,100)= 705,600 bytes per second ooh at 5:1 that's 6 channels = 42Mbps mp3 would do about 1/10 of that but not quite streamble..
Figures would be a little lower because of compression but ... 100Mbps can be used; as fast as a kawaida LAN but you'd not get 100Mbps it would depend on the source and all the points in between.
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On 9/2/10 9:56 PM, David Njuguna wrote:
So after some digging.
EASSY 3.84Tbps Seacom - 0.1Tbps (active) TEAMS 0.04Tbps (active)
TOTAL - 3.99Tbps
I stand to be corrected but does this not equate to less than 4,000 links of dedicated 1Gbps.
I understand that for $215 you can get 1Gbps link in China.
Am I the only person that is bothered by these facts?
Am not sure why you are bothered with this facts. If you take a look a what japan and Korea have to offer - you will be at more pains - http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/7099536.html But thats not the issue - what you should be wondering is how comes?. almost 80 - 90 percent of the traffic doesnt leave Japan, Korea or China. That means the only investments they have to make is lots of fiber on the ground and not to other places. if you think how much fiber can we lay on the ground (lit and working) with the same cost of building say EASSY. You can work out the cost of 1G to the house if its all local. I will be glad the day folks stop thinking that the Internet is a connection to the US/Europe or some other place - but home. Regards, Michuki.
I concur, the more we go local, the more money we save, the more jobs we create, the more investor we'll have ... On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 9/2/10 9:56 PM, David Njuguna wrote:
So after some digging.
EASSY 3.84Tbps Seacom - 0.1Tbps (active) TEAMS 0.04Tbps (active)
TOTAL - 3.99Tbps
I stand to be corrected but does this not equate to less than 4,000 links of dedicated 1Gbps.
I understand that for $215 you can get 1Gbps link in China.
Am I the only person that is bothered by these facts?
Am not sure why you are bothered with this facts. If you take a look a what japan and Korea have to offer - you will be at more pains - http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/7099536.html
But thats not the issue - what you should be wondering is how comes?.
almost 80 - 90 percent of the traffic doesnt leave Japan, Korea or China. That means the only investments they have to make is lots of fiber on the ground and not to other places.
if you think how much fiber can we lay on the ground (lit and working) with the same cost of building say EASSY. You can work out the cost of 1G to the house if its all local.
I will be glad the day folks stop thinking that the Internet is a connection to the US/Europe or some other place - but home.
Regards,
Michuki.
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I totally agree with @michuki. but my question then is, where do we start? I would love to share some things on my PC if i can be given an IP address that can be accessed by a good number of guys in Kenya. Is it not possible, using subnetting even on the 10.0.0.0/16 to have enough addresses for a strategic "LAN" if some of the major players were organized well... On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:36 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur, the more we go local, the more money we save, the more jobs we create, the more investor we'll have ...
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 9/2/10 9:56 PM, David Njuguna wrote:
So after some digging.
EASSY 3.84Tbps Seacom - 0.1Tbps (active) TEAMS 0.04Tbps (active)
TOTAL - 3.99Tbps
I stand to be corrected but does this not equate to less than 4,000 links of dedicated 1Gbps.
I understand that for $215 you can get 1Gbps link in China.
Am I the only person that is bothered by these facts?
Am not sure why you are bothered with this facts. If you take a look a what japan and Korea have to offer - you will be at more pains - http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/7099536.html
But thats not the issue - what you should be wondering is how comes?.
almost 80 - 90 percent of the traffic doesnt leave Japan, Korea or China. That means the only investments they have to make is lots of fiber on the ground and not to other places.
if you think how much fiber can we lay on the ground (lit and working) with the same cost of building say EASSY. You can work out the cost of 1G to the house if its all local.
I will be glad the day folks stop thinking that the Internet is a connection to the US/Europe or some other place - but home.
Regards,
Michuki.
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i totally agree with the local content ideas, KDN had started on some sort of local loop service which if you ask me is a goldmine for small businesses to offer various local content (if correctly implemented ) On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:52 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with @michuki. but my question then is, where do we start? I would love to share some things on my PC if i can be given an IP address that can be accessed by a good number of guys in Kenya. Is it not possible, using subnetting even on the 10.0.0.0/16 to have enough addresses for a strategic "LAN" if some of the major players were organized well...
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:36 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur, the more we go local, the more money we save, the more jobs we create, the more investor we'll have ...
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
On 9/2/10 9:56 PM, David Njuguna wrote:
So after some digging.
EASSY 3.84Tbps Seacom - 0.1Tbps (active) TEAMS 0.04Tbps (active)
TOTAL - 3.99Tbps
I stand to be corrected but does this not equate to less than 4,000 links of dedicated 1Gbps.
I understand that for $215 you can get 1Gbps link in China.
Am I the only person that is bothered by these facts?
Am not sure why you are bothered with this facts. If you take a look a what japan and Korea have to offer - you will be at more pains - http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90882/7099536.html
But thats not the issue - what you should be wondering is how comes?.
almost 80 - 90 percent of the traffic doesnt leave Japan, Korea or China. That means the only investments they have to make is lots of fiber on the ground and not to other places.
if you think how much fiber can we lay on the ground (lit and working) with the same cost of building say EASSY. You can work out the cost of 1G to the house if its all local.
I will be glad the day folks stop thinking that the Internet is a connection to the US/Europe or some other place - but home.
Regards,
Michuki.
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@Jangita HD video or audio does not necessarily result to the predicted bandwidth. There are compression mechanism that make transmission of the signal cost effective. For instance, a Telepresence session would requires 2-3Mbps bandwidth per screen: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/ns669/networking_solutions_products_gen... On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jangita <jangita@jangita.com> wrote:
On 02/09/2010 2:20 p, Watson Kambo wrote:
A friend of mine from Germany, a remote small town 30K residents has this 100Mbps link on coax cable, its a triple play, it this what we should expect from Zuku? and now I hear Safcom is testing LTE which promises almost the same ... would we be right to say that in the near future we will have these crazy speeds? question is are we ready as a Kenyan market for such speeds? My parents back in the village do not have even a dial up, why varied reasons ... this friend of mine is almost the same age with my dad yet he is over excited by the speeds .. what will have to change in our setting to 'entice' the masses with data ... I know for the Young urban its the thing to be on FB shall we say Thats it for Data ... I still think we are still a 'Voice' only country ...
-- Watson Kambo
- Internet TV (imagine 1080p on 4:3) 1080 x 1443 pixels x 25 frames per second = 38,961,000 bytes per second = 30Mbps tuseme 32bit color depth = 960Mbps - already more than 100MBps Gone !just for good quality TV via internet - ooh i havent put the sound in which would be probably
- Internet Telephone - 8,000 Hz 8bit sound?
- Internet Radio - Tuseme CD quality 44,100Hz at 16 bit (2 bytes x 44,100)= 705,600 bytes per second ooh at 5:1 that's 6 channels = 42Mbps mp3 would do about 1/10 of that but not quite streamble..
Figures would be a little lower because of compression but ... 100Mbps can be used; as fast as a kawaida LAN but you'd not get 100Mbps it would depend on the source and all the points in between.
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I agree with Jangita SKY HD only requires 2Mbps .. but I also think we need to develop enough local content, I think the highest traffic for Kenyan users is international and more so download and very few uploads ... stand corrected ... On 03/09/2010, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
@Jangita
HD video or audio does not necessarily result to the predicted bandwidth. There are compression mechanism that make transmission of the signal cost effective. For instance, a Telepresence session would requires 2-3Mbps bandwidth per screen:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/ns669/networking_solutions_products_gen...
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Jangita <jangita@jangita.com> wrote:
On 02/09/2010 2:20 p, Watson Kambo wrote:
A friend of mine from Germany, a remote small town 30K residents has this 100Mbps link on coax cable, its a triple play, it this what we should expect from Zuku? and now I hear Safcom is testing LTE which promises almost the same ... would we be right to say that in the near future we will have these crazy speeds? question is are we ready as a Kenyan market for such speeds? My parents back in the village do not have even a dial up, why varied reasons ... this friend of mine is almost the same age with my dad yet he is over excited by the speeds .. what will have to change in our setting to 'entice' the masses with data ... I know for the Young urban its the thing to be on FB shall we say Thats it for Data ... I still think we are still a 'Voice' only country ...
-- Watson Kambo
- Internet TV (imagine 1080p on 4:3) 1080 x 1443 pixels x 25 frames per second = 38,961,000 bytes per second = 30Mbps tuseme 32bit color depth = 960Mbps - already more than 100MBps Gone !just for good quality TV via internet - ooh i havent put the sound in which would be probably
- Internet Telephone - 8,000 Hz 8bit sound?
- Internet Radio - Tuseme CD quality 44,100Hz at 16 bit (2 bytes x 44,100)= 705,600 bytes per second ooh at 5:1 that's 6 channels = 42Mbps mp3 would do about 1/10 of that but not quite streamble..
Figures would be a little lower because of compression but ... 100Mbps can be used; as fast as a kawaida LAN but you'd not get 100Mbps it would depend on the source and all the points in between.
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On 03/09/2010 7:14 a, techi wrote:
@Jangita
HD video or audio does not necessarily result to the predicted bandwidth. There are compression mechanism that make transmission of the signal cost effective. For instance, a Telepresence session would requires 2-3Mbps bandwidth per screen: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/ns669/networking_solutions_products_gen... Eeeh <quote> Figures would be a little lower because of compression but ... </quote> -- Jangita | +256 76 91 8383 | Y! & MSN: jangita@yahoo.com <mailto:jangita@yahoo.com> Skype: jangita | GTalk: jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com <mailto:jangita.nyagudi@gmail.com>
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