
Hi This card is not working at the moment for me. They are trying to convince me that PAYPAL is the issue and not them. Anyone on the list who has £134.58 on paypal? Contact me offlist. Thank you. Regards -- Anthony Tai "A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination."

This Nation Hela business is annoying. I uploaded some money via MPesa jana morning to pay for something on Paypal. Until now, this has not reflected on the card (which is prepaid - so i cant do jack until it reflects :-( !!!! ) On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
This card is not working at the moment for me. They are trying to convince me that PAYPAL is the issue and not them.
Anyone on the list who has £134.58 on paypal? Contact me offlist.
Thank you.
Regards
-- Anthony Tai
"A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination."
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Welcome to the world of Nationhela @ndungu. We must wait patiently. Regards On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:45 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
This Nation Hela business is annoying. I uploaded some money via MPesa jana morning to pay for something on Paypal. Until now, this has not reflected on the card (which is prepaid - so i cant do jack until it reflects :-( !!!! )
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
This card is not working at the moment for me. They are trying to convince me that PAYPAL is the issue and not them.
Anyone on the list who has £134.58 on paypal? Contact me offlist.
Thank you.
Regards
-- Anthony Tai
"A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination."
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I also had such a delay and they explained that the system was down. If you can't wait any longer lemme know how many dollars you want while you reverse that MPESA to Card trxn. Cheers, S On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome to the world of Nationhela @ndungu. We must wait patiently.
Regards
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:45 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
This Nation Hela business is annoying. I uploaded some money via MPesa jana morning to pay for something on Paypal. Until now, this has not reflected on the card (which is prepaid - so i cant do jack until it reflects :-( !!!! )
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
This card is not working at the moment for me. They are trying to convince me that PAYPAL is the issue and not them.
Anyone on the list who has £134.58 on paypal? Contact me offlist.
Thank you.
Regards
-- Anthony Tai
"A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination."
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@Stephen, when their system goes down, even that transaction with MPESA is a dream. It's tells you that no data is available. The ATM of course won't work, so we normally have to sit it out until they sort their issues. When it works, it works well, when it doesn't /o\!!!! Thank you. Regards On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Stephen Wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
I also had such a delay and they explained that the system was down. If you can't wait any longer lemme know how many dollars you want while you reverse that MPESA to Card trxn.
Cheers, S
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome to the world of Nationhela @ndungu. We must wait patiently.
Regards
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:45 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
This Nation Hela business is annoying. I uploaded some money via MPesa jana morning to pay for something on Paypal. Until now, this has not reflected on the card (which is prepaid - so i cant do jack until it reflects :-( !!!! )
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi
This card is not working at the moment for me. They are trying to convince me that PAYPAL is the issue and not them.
Anyone on the list who has £134.58 on paypal? Contact me offlist.
Thank you.
Regards
-- Anthony Tai
"A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination."
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so which one is good for purchasing online stuff i hear standard chartered is good but expensive?? On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com> wrote:
@Stephen, when their system goes down, even that transaction with MPESA is a dream. It's tells you that no data is available. The ATM of course won't work, so we normally have to sit it out until they sort their issues.
When it works, it works well, when it doesn't /o\!!!!
Thank you.
Regards
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Stephen Wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
I also had such a delay and they explained that the system was down. If you can't wait any longer lemme know how many dollars you want while you reverse that MPESA to Card trxn.
Cheers, S
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com>wrote:
Welcome to the world of Nationhela @ndungu. We must wait patiently.
Regards
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:45 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com
wrote:
This Nation Hela business is annoying. I uploaded some money via MPesa jana morning to pay for something on Paypal. Until now, this has not reflected on the card (which is prepaid - so i cant do jack until it reflects :-( !!!! )
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi
This card is not working at the moment for me. They are trying to convince me that PAYPAL is the issue and not them.
Anyone on the list who has £134.58 on paypal? Contact me offlist.
Thank you.
Regards
-- Anthony Tai
"A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination."
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@Ericko what do you mean by SCB is good but expensive? I use it for all my transactions and there is no single charge on it ./Ok3ch On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Ericko <lyricalericko@gmail.com> wrote:
so which one is good for purchasing online stuff i hear standard chartered is good but expensive??
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com> wrote:
@Stephen, when their system goes down, even that transaction with MPESA is a dream. It's tells you that no data is available. The ATM of course won't work, so we normally have to sit it out until they sort their issues.
When it works, it works well, when it doesn't /o\!!!!
Thank you.
Regards
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Stephen Wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>wrote:
I also had such a delay and they explained that the system was down. If you can't wait any longer lemme know how many dollars you want while you reverse that MPESA to Card trxn.
Cheers, S
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com>wrote:
Welcome to the world of Nationhela @ndungu. We must wait patiently.
Regards
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:45 AM, ndungu stephen < ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
This Nation Hela business is annoying. I uploaded some money via MPesa jana morning to pay for something on Paypal. Until now, this has not reflected on the card (which is prepaid - so i cant do jack until it reflects :-( !!!! )
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi
This card is not working at the moment for me. They are trying to convince me that PAYPAL is the issue and not them.
Anyone on the list who has £134.58 on paypal? Contact me offlist.
Thank you.
Regards
-- Anthony Tai
"A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination."
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@Erico, what card from StanChart are you referring to? I only know about their Credit Card, which as you say is comparatively expensive in terms of the annual fees. Any credit card should work just fine. I use both Credit cards (StanChart) and Pre-paid debit cards (KCB & I&M travel card) to make online payments (via a PayPal account). None have ever disappointed me so far.

The I&M and KCB cards, one has to wait for 1 week to get it, then they have all these fees you have to work with. For a start up where all funds are important, Nationhela overtakes them. The only drawback has been when they go down. No warning, nothing. Then the clueless customer service doesn't help. Regards On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Erico, what card from StanChart are you referring to? I only know about their Credit Card, which as you say is comparatively expensive in terms of the annual fees. Any credit card should work just fine.
I use both Credit cards (StanChart) and Pre-paid debit cards (KCB & I&M travel card) to make online payments (via a PayPal account). None have ever disappointed me so far.
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2013/7/10 Anthony Tai <jicholatai@gmail.com>
The I&M and KCB cards, one has to wait for 1 week to get it, then they have all these fees you have to work with. For a start up where all funds are important, Nationhela overtakes them.
The only drawback has been when they go down. No warning, nothing. Then the clueless customer service doesn't help.
Are you talking from experience Anthony? I think with proper choice, you can work out something with I&M to keep charges on the bare minimum. *Acquisition* I got my I&M card printed & activated on the same day from their HQ branch on Kenyatta Avenue. The KCB card took a week. If I recall well, I paid 1000/= for the KCB card and 2000/= for the I&M card. * * *Charges* KCB charges 20/= for each cash withdrawal on ANY VISA branded atm in the milky way. There's a monthly charge of 100/= and an annual fee of 500/=. Online payments are free. The transaction currency is KES, so they make their kill on the currency exchange rate My I&M card is USD denominated (there's a newer & better one that's multi-currency denominated). The charge is KES 200/= every time you top up funds into the card. There are no annual charges and online payments are free (though the brochure I initially got at the time wasn't clear on this). There are forex conversion losses if the payments are in USD. The ATM withdrawals are charged $1 locally and $4 internationally. In terms of tracking the cards, the I&M portal allows me to view transactions & block/unblock the card at will. The unsightly KCB portal just allows me to view the card transactions. Tony.
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Anthony Tai
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