Hi Francis, I had a look at your website, there is allot to be done, both design and functionality total fail, text overlapping, if I remember well, the about us page was a turn off, seriously the colors :( you cant have orange or red in the main content. As a designer I feel abused. The navigation is forced and out of place, the whole website confuses the user, for an NGO the previous website is way better. I would suggest the following, identify the need, consider the target audience and finally create a user journey. Design is a process. If it doesnt work on paper, it won't work on web as well. Nicholas A <niodanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francis In my humble opinion, this is a classic case of the need of an HTML/CSS framework such as Bootstrap where the defaults are pretty good 'design'. http://getbootstrap.com/ The old site is aged and needs an overhaul. Good luck. ;) Kelvin www.jobs365.co.ke On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Maryann <maryannkareh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francis, I had a look at your website, there is allot to be done, both design and functionality total fail, text overlapping, if I remember well, the about us page was a turn off, seriously the colors :( you cant have orange or red in the main content. As a designer I feel abused.
The navigation is forced and out of place, the whole website confuses the user, for an NGO the previous website is way better. I would suggest the following, identify the need, consider the target audience and finally create a user journey. Design is a process. If it doesnt work on paper, it won't work on web as well.
Nicholas A <niodanga@gmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks Skunkers for all your comments. Our old site was built on wordpress which am not conversant with. Therefore I could only use the skills and tools I have, which is java + html5. Am not a web designer, but a java developer. If you are a excellent wordress developer who can improve on the old site, please send a quote to vicechair.nairobi@ypkenya.org and cc josekamanthe@gmail.com, Chair.Nairobi@ypkenya.org by 5th of February. We need a new site up & running in 2 weeks time. @ LYP Team, I happened to ask for comments from Skunworks, a mailing list for IT people on comments on our proposed new site. They all seem to like the old site, or they would rather we improve on the old site. Their rating for our new site seem rather low. *See their comments below*. I will therefore request the Website committee led by Erastus explore further their choices(beyond me) and consider hiring someone to improve on our old site. Have asked them(Skunkers) to send quotations. Else we can pay Kelvin who developed the old site to improve it. The old site is built on WordPress which am no conversant with it. And finally I wont charge the club any work done, since i was to, just in case we switch to the proposed site AOB. Most of the LYP seem to like the new site. All skunkers seems to dislike the new site. Anyone with a possible explanation? Its an interesting phenomena worth research. Forwarded conversation Subject: [Skunkworks] Website Comments ------------------------ From: Francis Mwangi Chege <francis.mwangi.chege@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:23 PM To: skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Hello Skunks I am trying to upgrade our organization website. Here is the new site under development http://lypkenya.appspot.com/ Your comments are welcome, specifically on 1. What to change on the site 2. Do you think its a improvement of our current website http://ypkenya.org or its the reverse. 3. Your rating of the site x/10 -- Kind Regards, Francis Mwangi Chege Java Software Developer +254 - 721 663 208 ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: patrick kinyua <rickinyua@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:39 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> I personally prefer the previous one. For me it is simpler and easier to navigate..This is from a user's point of view. As a developer though, I appreciate the work done on the second site. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com> Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:50 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Same here, I'd have preferred you develop onto the old site, looks better and us more user friendly. The new one you are working on looks like a template a photographer's site would look like. Regards, Martin Gicheru | Editor, Techweez Tel:254721906171 | 0772906171 | Website:http://www.techweez.com | Skype ID: martingicheru | Twitter ID:@martingicheru | Gplus: +MartinGicheru ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: John K. <kamau.john@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:46 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> I second the two above comments. Work on the second one is appreciated but a bit too much. Also the new site unusable on mobile, the previous site while not great, is still readable. ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> @Francis, i think your initial post went straight into my spam folder, maybe it did the same for other users, hence the zero responses. -- Regards, Peter Karunyu ------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: wa <wanangu@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:43 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> The first site is simple i second the option of you just working on improving the first one. Kind Regards, Walter Nyamweya, 0725 011 515. ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: Geofrey Karani <jeffkarani@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:58 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Old is gold :-) The older one is better in terms of usability On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote: ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: Mula G Njira <g2mula@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 8:01 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Old one is by far superior... The new one looks like someone wanted to show their skills at fancy techniques that have ended up not playing well together... Regards, Mula G Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before the fight, while the ignorant fight to win. ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: Benjamin <anangwe@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 8:35 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> I think you made the second website with a developers perspective which i based on functionality and results hook up with a designer and come up with a tight concepts playing around with the architecture then build from the designers point of view. Thus the second website is mainly a website made with an aspect of a portfolio someones portfolio a celebrity ETC but its not organization based which handles content more than images. Thus start from the bottom up and you will be surprised how well a concept you can come out with. ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: Derrick Wesonga <wesongaderrick@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:01 PM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Hi Francis, Probably you should start by defining what you want on a new site, what you want to improve e.t.c that will help your developers/designers in developing the new site. I like the design( minus the menu) of the home page but the transitions need to be smoother and sharper, I am getting overlapping text every so often. The inner pages with the monotonous accordion, grey on black text on heading and orange on black text are not very appealing to a reader. The logo looks forced (by the way why isn't the logo on the home page?) Then site designed by Francis on a corporate site is an absolute no-no Finally the second site does not appear to be in a CMS, is that the direction you want to go? Kind regards ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: Nicholas A <niodanga@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:31 AM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> HI, Develop on the previous one. 5/10 ------------------------------------------------------------.. From: Maryann <maryannkareh@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:59 AM To: Nicholas A <niodanga@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Hi Francis, I had a look at your website, there is allot to be done, both design and functionality total fail, text overlapping, if I remember well, the about us page was a turn off, seriously the colors :( you cant have orange or red in the main content. As a designer I feel abused. The navigation is forced and out of place, the whole website confuses the user, for an NGO the previous website is way better. I would suggest the following, identify the need, consider the target audience and finally create a user journey. Design is a process. If it doesnt work on paper, it won't work on web as well. ---------- From: Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> Date: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:25 AM To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Hi Francis In my humble opinion, this is a classic case of the need of an HTML/CSS framework such as Bootstrap where the defaults are pretty good 'design'. http://getbootstrap.com/ The old site is aged and needs an overhaul. Good luck. ;) Kelvin www.jobs365.co.ke On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francis
In my humble opinion, this is a classic case of the need of an HTML/CSS framework such as Bootstrap where the defaults are pretty good 'design'.
The old site is aged and needs an overhaul. Good luck. ;)
Kelvin www.jobs365.co.ke
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Maryann <maryannkareh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Francis, I had a look at your website, there is allot to be done, both design and functionality total fail, text overlapping, if I remember well, the about us page was a turn off, seriously the colors :( you cant have orange or red in the main content. As a designer I feel abused.
The navigation is forced and out of place, the whole website confuses the user, for an NGO the previous website is way better. I would suggest the following, identify the need, consider the target audience and finally create a user journey. Design is a process. If it doesnt work on paper, it won't work on web as well.
Nicholas A <niodanga@gmail.com> wrote:
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