Exchange server , office 365 or Google apps
Morning Skunkers, I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards, Walter.
Google Apps FTW 1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad. One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem. -Adam -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Skunkers,
I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards,
Walter.
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It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer. And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom. In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps. For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts. SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint. Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'. Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary. Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow. For now, I vote Office 365. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps FTW
1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad.
One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Skunkers,
I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards,
Walter.
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Philip can you please clarify 12 USD per user or use? On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer.
And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom.
In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps.
For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts.
SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint.
Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'.
Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary.
Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow.
For now, I vote Office 365.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps FTW
1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad.
One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Skunkers,
I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards,
Walter.
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-- Kind Regards, Walter Nyamweya, 0725 011 515.
12.5 USD per user per month I meant. But if you talk to Microsoft directly they may offer discounts. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Philip can you please clarify 12 USD per user or use?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer.
And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom.
In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps.
For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts.
SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint.
Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'.
Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary.
Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow.
For now, I vote Office 365.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps FTW
1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad.
One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Skunkers,
I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards,
Walter.
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Thank you for the clarification, but 12.5 USD is steep package as compared to Google apps which offers 5 USD package for almost the same functionalistys apart from Active directory integration On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
12.5 USD per user per month I meant. But if you talk to Microsoft directly they may offer discounts.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Philip can you please clarify 12 USD per user or use?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer.
And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom.
In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps.
For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts.
SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint.
Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'.
Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary.
Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow.
For now, I vote Office 365.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps FTW
1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad.
One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Skunkers,
I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards,
Walter.
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Actually Google Apps has directory sync which enables Active Directory integration. On Jan 23, 2014 2:50 PM, "wa" <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the clarification, but 12.5 USD is steep package as compared to Google apps which offers 5 USD package for almost the same functionalistys apart from Active directory integration
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
12.5 USD per user per month I meant. But if you talk to Microsoft directly they may offer discounts.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Philip can you please clarify 12 USD per user or use?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer.
And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom.
In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps.
For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts.
SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint.
Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'.
Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary.
Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow.
For now, I vote Office 365.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps FTW
1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad.
One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Skunkers,
I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards,
Walter.
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Google Apps way cheaper: http://www.google.co.ke/enterprise/ex/6800169/apps/business/pricing.html But of course no sharepoint or anything. I personally don't like anything Microsoft so it's an easy decision for me :-) -- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
12.5 USD per user per month I meant. But if you talk to Microsoft directly they may offer discounts.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Philip can you please clarify 12 USD per user or use?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer.
And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom.
In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps.
For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts.
SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint.
Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'.
Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary.
Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow.
For now, I vote Office 365.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps FTW
1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad.
One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem.
-Adam
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Skunkers,
I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards,
Walter.
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Yeah, I guess the cost is a factor. Plus Google doesn't offer Office 2013 licences if you happen to use Office in your organization. It is a battle of budgets versus features. Anyway, with the info you have you can now make an informed decision. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps way cheaper:
http://www.google.co.ke/enterprise/ex/6800169/apps/business/pricing.html
But of course no sharepoint or anything. I personally don't like anything Microsoft so it's an easy decision for me :-)
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
12.5 USD per user per month I meant. But if you talk to Microsoft directly they may offer discounts.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Philip can you please clarify 12 USD per user or use?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer.
And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom.
In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps.
For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts.
SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint.
Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'.
Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary.
Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow.
For now, I vote Office 365.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps FTW
1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad.
One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem.
-Adam
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On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Morning Skunkers,
I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). -- Kind Regards,
Walter.
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But if all you want is email, you as well look at the Hosted Exchange package. It is closer to Google Apps that the full Office 365 package. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/microsoft-exchange-online-email-f... On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I guess the cost is a factor. Plus Google doesn't offer Office 2013 licences if you happen to use Office in your organization.
It is a battle of budgets versus features.
Anyway, with the info you have you can now make an informed decision.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps way cheaper:
http://www.google.co.ke/enterprise/ex/6800169/apps/business/pricing.html
But of course no sharepoint or anything. I personally don't like anything Microsoft so it's an easy decision for me :-)
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On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
12.5 USD per user per month I meant. But if you talk to Microsoft directly they may offer discounts.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Philip can you please clarify 12 USD per user or use?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer.
And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom.
In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps.
For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts.
SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint.
Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'.
Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary.
Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow.
For now, I vote Office 365.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps FTW
1. GA doesn't require updates 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous about security 3. GA can be managed by less technical people 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple Mail) if the connection is consistently bad.
One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but that's a major maintenance problem.
-Adam
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On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Morning Skunkers, > > I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either > of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). > -- > Kind Regards, > > Walter. > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Thank you guys for your thoughts, will weigh the two options and see what works for me. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
But if all you want is email, you as well look at the Hosted Exchange package. It is closer to Google Apps that the full Office 365 package.
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/microsoft-exchange-online-email-f...
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Yeah, I guess the cost is a factor. Plus Google doesn't offer Office 2013 licences if you happen to use Office in your organization.
It is a battle of budgets versus features.
Anyway, with the info you have you can now make an informed decision.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Google Apps way cheaper:
http://www.google.co.ke/enterprise/ex/6800169/apps/business/pricing.html
But of course no sharepoint or anything. I personally don't like anything Microsoft so it's an easy decision for me :-)
-- Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> More Musings: varud.com About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
12.5 USD per user per month I meant. But if you talk to Microsoft directly they may offer discounts.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:29 PM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote:
Philip can you please clarify 12 USD per user or use?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
It will depend on your work environment. If you office uses a lot of Outlook and heavy on Office application, I would recommend Office 365. It is USD 12.5 per use per month and that cover emails and licences for Office 2013 for each user for 5 computer (office and home). Offer 50 GB of mailboxes and 25 MB maximum send-able mail size. Not sure how much Google Apps offer.
And for those using GoDadday, setup is easy as they have integrated this with Office 365. I know Google Apps does this as well including support for other registrars such as eNom.
In terms of user interface, Office 365 is way ahead of Google if you are used to Outlook. You can also access Office Web Apps.
For organizations with Active Directory, Office 365 neatly integrates with AD and you can use AD to manage your users and the email accounts.
SharePoint has pretty new features for collaboration, including SkyDrive Pro with 25 GB of cloud storage per user. You can do simple workflow systems in SharePoint.
Lync for meetings and remote support is great. It is like Skype for Business and support multiple-way video conferencing, archiving of audio.video meetings as well a remote desktop support (you can take over a users desktop and perform 'TeamViewing'.
Microsoft currently does not have servers in Africa, closest are in Europe, so Google Apps may come ahead there in terms of latency/speed though I wonder whether server in Kenya just cache YouTube or they cache everything. You experience will vary.
Exchange Server I would rather not touch. Too much administrative headache and issues as the mail files grow.
For now, I vote Office 365.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
> Google Apps FTW > > 1. GA doesn't require updates > 2. GA supports two-factor authentication if you want to get rigorous > about security > 3. GA can be managed by less technical people > 4. GA works fine for even pretty mediocre Internet connections - > although you'll want to use a client like Thunderbird or Outlook (or Apple > Mail) if the connection is consistently bad. > > One nice thing about Google is they have cache servers in East > Africa. Office 365 does not. Exchange would be on-premises I presume but > that's a major maintenance problem. > > -Adam > > -- > Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io > Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> > More Musings: varud.com > About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:07 AM, wa <wanangu@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Morning Skunkers, >> >> I need your thoughts on the above solutions if you have used either >> of the products mentioned (Pros and cons). >> -- >> Kind Regards, >> >> Walter. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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