Dear All, Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz. If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546. Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then. Thank you.
Thank you all these few who have responded. . On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz.
If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546.
Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then.
Thank you.
-- Direct your attention to the best... http://www.bigbang.co.ke/
Is this not criminal in many jurisdictions of the world? (maybe even Kenya, not sure) Does this not constitute recruiting individuals for criminal activities possibly targeted at Skunks, their businesses or their employers? Is it right to let this go on? Kelvin On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you all these few who have responded. .
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz.
If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546.
Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then.
Thank you.
-- Direct your attention to the best... http://www.bigbang.co.ke/
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@Kelvin, If you are scared, please change all your IP addresses now! For the LAN interface, make it 127.0.0.1/32 For the WLAN interface, make it 127.0.0.2/32 And you will never be caught by these guys! Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this not criminal in many jurisdictions of the world? (maybe even Kenya, not sure)
Does this not constitute recruiting individuals for criminal activities possibly targeted at Skunks, their businesses or their employers?
Is it right to let this go on?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you all these few who have responded. .
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz.
If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546.
Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then.
Thank you.
-- Direct your attention to the best... http://www.bigbang.co.ke/
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Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
I just wonder whether it does. It depends on what these people are being recruited to do, doesn't it? It could range from working in the "security industry" to things more sinister. Just for discussion's sake, if these guys are recruiting to exploit some unknown zero-day hole in MPESA (again, just as a random example of something that affects many people) does the recruitment constitute criminal activity, in your view Washington? Kelvin On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Kelvin,
If you are scared, please change all your IP addresses now!
For the LAN interface, make it 127.0.0.1/32 For the WLAN interface, make it 127.0.0.2/32
And you will never be caught by these guys!
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this not criminal in many jurisdictions of the world? (maybe even Kenya, not sure)
Does this not constitute recruiting individuals for criminal activities possibly targeted at Skunks, their businesses or their employers?
Is it right to let this go on?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you all these few who have responded. .
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz.
If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546.
Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then.
Thank you.
-- Direct your attention to the best... http://www.bigbang.co.ke/
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Is it the recruitment you are worried about or the objective? I didn't know it's wrong to hack! That is why we talk about online security. It's wrong to steal, but ethical hacking is quite legit, which is what I believe the recruitment is about. However, if they want to exploit some zero day hole in M-Pesa, why not? Is it their fault that someone did not secure their app? If they can siphon off the money, it only teaches a lesson, but there is this thing called insurance so don't worry if they run down M-Pesa to zero money! On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment
constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
I just wonder whether it does.
It depends on what these people are being recruited to do, doesn't it?
It could range from working in the "security industry" to things more sinister.
Just for discussion's sake, if these guys are recruiting to exploit some unknown zero-day hole in MPESA (again, just as a random example of something that affects many people) does the recruitment constitute criminal activity, in your view Washington?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Kelvin,
If you are scared, please change all your IP addresses now!
For the LAN interface, make it 127.0.0.1/32 For the WLAN interface, make it 127.0.0.2/32
And you will never be caught by these guys!
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this not criminal in many jurisdictions of the world? (maybe even Kenya, not sure)
Does this not constitute recruiting individuals for criminal activities possibly targeted at Skunks, their businesses or their employers?
Is it right to let this go on?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you all these few who have responded. .
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz.
If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546.
Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then.
Thank you.
-- Direct your attention to the best... http://www.bigbang.co.ke/
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
Have you ever heard of the saying "Hire a thief to catch a thief"? Well that is the concept behind ethical hacking (which was clearly the genesis to this thread). Skilled cyber-security professionals as a must *have* to be very profficient with all the tools, techniques and tactics that are used by "cyber-baddies" to compromise information systems. Nothing wrong with asking for help.... Mblayo On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it the recruitment you are worried about or the objective?
I didn't know it's wrong to hack! That is why we talk about online security. It's wrong to steal, but ethical hacking is quite legit, which is what I believe the recruitment is about. However, if they want to exploit some zero day hole in M-Pesa, why not? Is it their fault that someone did not secure their app? If they can siphon off the money, it only teaches a lesson, but there is this thing called insurance so don't worry if they run down M-Pesa to zero money!
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment
constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
I just wonder whether it does.
It depends on what these people are being recruited to do, doesn't it?
It could range from working in the "security industry" to things more sinister.
Just for discussion's sake, if these guys are recruiting to exploit some unknown zero-day hole in MPESA (again, just as a random example of something that affects many people) does the recruitment constitute criminal activity, in your view Washington?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Kelvin,
If you are scared, please change all your IP addresses now!
For the LAN interface, make it 127.0.0.1/32 For the WLAN interface, make it 127.0.0.2/32
And you will never be caught by these guys!
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this not criminal in many jurisdictions of the world? (maybe even Kenya, not sure)
Does this not constitute recruiting individuals for criminal activities possibly targeted at Skunks, their businesses or their employers?
Is it right to let this go on?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com>wrote:
Thank you all these few who have responded. .
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear All,
Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz.
If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546.
Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then.
Thank you.
-- Direct your attention to the best... http://www.bigbang.co.ke/
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How do we know dave is not working for the government On Jul 5, 2012 2:29 PM, "Brian Munyao Longwe" <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you ever heard of the saying "Hire a thief to catch a thief"?
Well that is the concept behind ethical hacking (which was clearly the genesis to this thread). Skilled cyber-security professionals as a must *have* to be very profficient with all the tools, techniques and tactics that are used by "cyber-baddies" to compromise information systems.
Nothing wrong with asking for help....
Mblayo
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it the recruitment you are worried about or the objective?
I didn't know it's wrong to hack! That is why we talk about online security. It's wrong to steal, but ethical hacking is quite legit, which is what I believe the recruitment is about. However, if they want to exploit some zero day hole in M-Pesa, why not? Is it their fault that someone did not secure their app? If they can siphon off the money, it only teaches a lesson, but there is this thing called insurance so don't worry if they run down M-Pesa to zero money!
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the
recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
I just wonder whether it does.
It depends on what these people are being recruited to do, doesn't it?
It could range from working in the "security industry" to things more sinister.
Just for discussion's sake, if these guys are recruiting to exploit some unknown zero-day hole in MPESA (again, just as a random example of something that affects many people) does the recruitment constitute criminal activity, in your view Washington?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
@Kelvin,
If you are scared, please change all your IP addresses now!
For the LAN interface, make it 127.0.0.1/32 For the WLAN interface, make it 127.0.0.2/32
And you will never be caught by these guys!
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this not criminal in many jurisdictions of the world? (maybe even Kenya, not sure)
Does this not constitute recruiting individuals for criminal activities possibly targeted at Skunks, their businesses or their employers?
Is it right to let this go on?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com>wrote:
Thank you all these few who have responded. .
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com>wrote:
> Dear All, > > Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I > found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your > way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of > the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. > He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve > room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come > to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz. > > If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both > software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) > then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546. > > Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for london > by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then. > > Thank you. > > > > >
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How do we know dave is not working for the government
Have you ever heard of the saying "Hire a thief to catch a thief"? Apologies, I think I misunderstood something.
From your comments it seems that Dave previously stated he was recruiting for "ethical hacking" purposes.
Is yes, then I see no problem with it. My questions were, basically, looking at it from this angle: what if the objective of this is not ethical, or legal? If Dave clarified this then my point is/was moot. However, if they want to exploit some zero day hole in M-Pesa, why not? Is
it their fault that someone did not secure their app? If they can siphon off the money, it only teaches a lesson, but there is this thing called insurance so don't worry if they run down M-Pesa to zero money!
Wash, this is where you and I part ways in how we think. :) To each his own, though. Kelvin On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:
How do we know dave is not working for the government On Jul 5, 2012 2:29 PM, "Brian Munyao Longwe" <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you ever heard of the saying "Hire a thief to catch a thief"?
Well that is the concept behind ethical hacking (which was clearly the genesis to this thread). Skilled cyber-security professionals as a must *have* to be very profficient with all the tools, techniques and tactics that are used by "cyber-baddies" to compromise information systems.
Nothing wrong with asking for help....
Mblayo
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it the recruitment you are worried about or the objective?
I didn't know it's wrong to hack! That is why we talk about online security. It's wrong to steal, but ethical hacking is quite legit, which is what I believe the recruitment is about. However, if they want to exploit some zero day hole in M-Pesa, why not? Is it their fault that someone did not secure their app? If they can siphon off the money, it only teaches a lesson, but there is this thing called insurance so don't worry if they run down M-Pesa to zero money!
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the
recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
I just wonder whether it does.
It depends on what these people are being recruited to do, doesn't it?
It could range from working in the "security industry" to things more sinister.
Just for discussion's sake, if these guys are recruiting to exploit some unknown zero-day hole in MPESA (again, just as a random example of something that affects many people) does the recruitment constitute criminal activity, in your view Washington?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kelvin,
If you are scared, please change all your IP addresses now!
For the LAN interface, make it 127.0.0.1/32 For the WLAN interface, make it 127.0.0.2/32
And you will never be caught by these guys!
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this not criminal in many jurisdictions of the world? (maybe even Kenya, not sure)
Does this not constitute recruiting individuals for criminal activities possibly targeted at Skunks, their businesses or their employers?
Is it right to let this go on?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com>wrote:
> Thank you all these few who have responded. . > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I >> found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your >> way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of >> the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. >> He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve >> room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come >> to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz. >> >> If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both >> software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) >> then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546. >> >> Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for >> london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Direct your attention to the best... http://www.bigbang.co.ke/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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@ Kelvin People hire hackers all the time. If I have a website that involves money transfer; Or I would like user comments protected; Or their passwords - I would definitely hire a hacker to exploit any loop holes overlooked by the developers. I am sure PayPal; eBay, Amazon, Apple Store etc have hackers in their payrolls for periods at a time. There is also the career called 'Reverse Engineers' - also a very lucrative business under category 'hackers' - usually hired by Competitors to take the apart the other people's products [?][?] BR///
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:
How do we know dave is not working for the government
And so what if he is working for the Government - shouldn't Gov't (more than anyone else) be cyber-secure?
On Jul 5, 2012 2:29 PM, "Brian Munyao Longwe" <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you ever heard of the saying "Hire a thief to catch a thief"?
Well that is the concept behind ethical hacking (which was clearly the genesis to this thread). Skilled cyber-security professionals as a must *have* to be very profficient with all the tools, techniques and tactics that are used by "cyber-baddies" to compromise information systems.
Nothing wrong with asking for help....
Mblayo
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Is it the recruitment you are worried about or the objective?
I didn't know it's wrong to hack! That is why we talk about online security. It's wrong to steal, but ethical hacking is quite legit, which is what I believe the recruitment is about. However, if they want to exploit some zero day hole in M-Pesa, why not? Is it their fault that someone did not secure their app? If they can siphon off the money, it only teaches a lesson, but there is this thing called insurance so don't worry if they run down M-Pesa to zero money!
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the
recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
I just wonder whether it does.
It depends on what these people are being recruited to do, doesn't it?
It could range from working in the "security industry" to things more sinister.
Just for discussion's sake, if these guys are recruiting to exploit some unknown zero-day hole in MPESA (again, just as a random example of something that affects many people) does the recruitment constitute criminal activity, in your view Washington?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kelvin,
If you are scared, please change all your IP addresses now!
For the LAN interface, make it 127.0.0.1/32 For the WLAN interface, make it 127.0.0.2/32
And you will never be caught by these guys!
Seriously though, I wonder whether you personally believe the recruitment constitutes any criminal activity. I don't.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Kelvin <kjayanoris@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this not criminal in many jurisdictions of the world? (maybe even Kenya, not sure)
Does this not constitute recruiting individuals for criminal activities possibly targeted at Skunks, their businesses or their employers?
Is it right to let this go on?
Kelvin
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com>wrote:
> Thank you all these few who have responded. . > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Ti Dave <dave.kirirah@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> Remember last time I was looking for a hacker for a website who I >> found here n will remain anonymous? Now another opportunity to hack your >> way to the bank is here.. Now. my client will only disclose the nature of >> the job to only the once who are qualified.. not even to myself. >> He will provide all necessities n high tech equipment in the serve >> room in which the candidates will be working from and he promises to come >> to agreeable terms for the qualified guyz. >> >> If you think you know you level of hacking capabilities in both >> software and web securities (since i've not been given the particulars) >> then email me @ ti.themac@gmail.com or call my number 0720 816 546. >> >> Please no nasty comments on here... the client is leaving for >> london by friday n wishes to meet his candidates b4 then. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Direct your attention to the best... http://www.bigbang.co.ke/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Hackers hired by Apple recently: Steve Jobs led an Iron Fist Rule to ignore the hackers and fight them with every dollar he got. Tim Cook on the other hand has gone to the forest to seek these Cyber Guerrillas with the logic: Why fight them when we can put them on our payroll to have new exciting features and fight off security loopholes ? http://dvice.com/archives/2011/08/so-long-ios-hac.php http://www.freakgeeks.com/apple-hires-developer-of-jail-break-tweaks/ http://dvice.com/archives/2011/02/boo-sony-grante.php Not a bad way to get your Resume Noticed [?] [?]
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Brian Munyao Longwe -
Kelvin -
ndungu stephen -
Odhiambo Washington -
Stephen Munguti -
Ti Dave