Re: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic
This reminds me of something I said back in Uni during lunch time with two of my friends (yes, it important for you to know the setting 8~)). Once one hears there is traffic on Uhuru Highway what else would you like to know? I believe Uhuru highway is the bottle neck of Nairobi. Take a case: South C: Vehicles in Mombasa Rd can't join Uhuru highway fast enough so a long jam till Zain results. Motorists detour through South C and thus there is jam between South C and West where all Mombasa Rd and South C ppl are trying to escape. They finally meet Langata Rd and guess where Langata Rd. goes ... By the way it is faster to walk from South C to CBD than to take a vehicle. Walking will take about 40 minutes max while driving will take about 1 hour, unless one leaves at about 6.30am. o_O? --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote: From: Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:04 PM i'm thinking more in the lines of doing a traffic density google maps mashup. Problem is that the best source of such data would be telcos - assuming that majority of guys stuck in jam have phones. But honestly I would pay to get a near realtime map of where traffic is in nairobi on my phone so that i can choose the best route to go. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote: I was involved in scoping for such a project, problem is budjet. You need a 1mbps link between cameras, and service providers charge 40,000 KES monthly per 1mb link, local loop. They have an advertising deal with the Radio Stations, hence they are not charged. Further to this, the CCN was not of too much use getting approval from, along with suspicious building managers. That's where I left the situation at, as of Nov 2008, don't know if progress has been made though.... On 4/7/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote: I believe we can develop somthing like this. Problem is funding. If we had an organized transport/Nairobi development/... ministry or whoever is in charge then funding will not be an issue. After all such a project benefits everyone. With the city wired up with fibre optic, the live cameras would give good video feed. O_O --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote: From: Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> Subject: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:12 AM What would it take to come up with this? http://www.btis.in -- Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418 http://blog.josiahmugambi.com SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418 http://blog.josiahmugambi.com SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke
A good railway transport system will sort the mess. Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 02:37:26 -0700 From: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic This reminds me of something I said back in Uni during lunch time with two of my friends (yes, it important for you to know the setting 8~)). Once one hears there is traffic on Uhuru Highway what else would you like to know? I believe Uhuru highway is the bottle neck of Nairobi. Take a case: South C: Vehicles in Mombasa Rd can't join Uhuru highway fast enough so a long jam till Zain results. Motorists detour through South C and thus there is jam between South C and West where all Mombasa Rd and South C ppl are trying to escape. They finally meet Langata Rd and guess where Langata Rd. goes ... By the way it is faster to walk from South C to CBD than to take a vehicle. Walking will take about 40 minutes max while driving will take about 1 hour, unless one leaves at about 6.30am. o_O? --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote: From: Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:04 PM i'm thinking more in the lines of doing a traffic density google maps mashup. Problem is that the best source of such data would be telcos - assuming that majority of guys stuck in jam have phones. But honestly I would pay to get a near realtime map of where traffic is in nairobi on my phone so that i can choose the best route to go. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote: I was involved in scoping for such a project, problem is budjet. You need a 1mbps link between cameras, and service providers charge 40,000 KES monthly per 1mb link, local loop. They have an advertising deal with the Radio Stations, hence they are not charged. Further to this, the CCN was not of too much use getting approval from, along with suspicious building managers. That's where I left the situation at, as of Nov 2008, don't know if progress has been made though.... On 4/7/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote: I believe we can develop somthing like this. Problem is funding. If we had an organized transport/Nairobi development/... ministry or whoever is in charge then funding will not be an issue. After all such a project benefits everyone. With the city wired up with fibre optic, the live cameras would give good video feed. O_O --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote: From: Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> Subject: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:12 AM What would it take to come up with this? http://www.btis.in -- Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418 http://blog.josiahmugambi.com SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418 http://blog.josiahmugambi.com SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
I live in South C and as long as I leave home *after* 8:15 a.m. I usually get to the office in Westlands within 45 minutes. However, if you have to get to work by 8:00 a.m. then you'd better be on the road before 6:30 a.m. as Wesley says. :) On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:37 AM, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
This reminds me of something I said back in Uni during lunch time with two of my friends (yes, it important for you to know the setting 8~)). Once one hears there is traffic on Uhuru Highway what else would you like to know? I believe Uhuru highway is the bottle neck of Nairobi.
Take a case: South C: Vehicles in Mombasa Rd can't join Uhuru highway fast enough so a long jam till Zain results. Motorists detour through South C and thus there is jam between South C and West where all Mombasa Rd and South C ppl are trying to escape. They finally meet Langata Rd and guess where Langata Rd. goes ...
*By the way it is faster to walk from South C to CBD than to take a vehicle*. Walking will take about 40 minutes max while driving will take about 1 hour, unless one leaves at about 6.30am.
o_O?
--- On *Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:04 PM
i'm thinking more in the lines of doing a traffic density google maps mashup. Problem is that the best source of such data would be telcos - assuming that majority of guys stuck in jam have phones. But honestly I would pay to get a near realtime map of where traffic is in nairobi on my phone so that i can choose the best route to go.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pkariuki@gmail.com>
wrote:
I was involved in scoping for such a project, problem is budjet. You need a 1mbps link between cameras, and service providers charge 40,000 KES monthly per 1mb link, local loop. They have an advertising deal with the Radio Stations, hence they are not charged. Further to this, the CCN was not of too much use getting approval from, along with suspicious building managers. That's where I left the situation at, as of Nov 2008, don't know if progress has been made though....
On 4/7/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I believe we can develop somthing like this. Problem is funding. If we had an organized transport/Nairobi development/... ministry or whoever is in charge then funding will not be an issue. After all such a project benefits everyone.
With the city wired up with fibre optic, the live cameras would give good video feed.
O_O
--- On *Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmugambi@gmail.com>
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Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:12 AM
What would it take to come up with this?
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Exactly Wesley, i stummbled upon this some time back http://www.njstateatlas.com/traffic/ Challenge is providing geo-information to Mobile phone users... considering the fact that majority of people in Kenya do not have phones with GPS functionality. A question that was raised at wherecampafrica was how do you provide geo info to people with such phones, considering their location. Phares talked about cell tower triangulation.. This is dependent on mobile phone companies, is there a way other than this. Any ideas? 2009/4/7 Christopher Kiagiri <ck@google.com>
I live in South C and as long as I leave home *after* 8:15 a.m. I usually get to the office in Westlands within 45 minutes.
However, if you have to get to work by 8:00 a.m. then you'd better be on the road before 6:30 a.m. as Wesley says. :)
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:37 AM, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
This reminds me of something I said back in Uni during lunch time with two of my friends (yes, it important for you to know the setting 8~)). Once one hears there is traffic on Uhuru Highway what else would you like to know? I believe Uhuru highway is the bottle neck of Nairobi.
Take a case: South C: Vehicles in Mombasa Rd can't join Uhuru highway fast enough so a long jam till Zain results. Motorists detour through South C and thus there is jam between South C and West where all Mombasa Rd and South C ppl are trying to escape. They finally meet Langata Rd and guess where Langata Rd. goes ...
*By the way it is faster to walk from South C to CBD than to take a vehicle*. Walking will take about 40 minutes max while driving will take about 1 hour, unless one leaves at about 6.30am.
o_O?
--- On *Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:04 PM
i'm thinking more in the lines of doing a traffic density google maps mashup. Problem is that the best source of such data would be telcos - assuming that majority of guys stuck in jam have phones. But honestly I would pay to get a near realtime map of where traffic is in nairobi on my phone so that i can choose the best route to go.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pkariuki@gmail.com>
wrote:
I was involved in scoping for such a project, problem is budjet. You need a 1mbps link between cameras, and service providers charge 40,000 KES monthly per 1mb link, local loop. They have an advertising deal with the Radio Stations, hence they are not charged. Further to this, the CCN was not of too much use getting approval from, along with suspicious building managers. That's where I left the situation at, as of Nov 2008, don't know if progress has been made though....
On 4/7/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I believe we can develop somthing like this. Problem is funding. If we had an organized transport/Nairobi development/... ministry or whoever is in charge then funding will not be an issue. After all such a project benefits everyone.
With the city wired up with fibre optic, the live cameras would give good video feed.
O_O
--- On *Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmugambi@gmail.com>
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Subject: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:12 AM
What would it take to come up with this?
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I think what wesley is describing is the "traffic ripple effect" Tom Cruise mentioned in MI3 (at the party when the movie has started :-) The gist of the theory being that the behavior of a traffic cop at the Nyayo roundabout on Msa rd will have a ripple effect all the way to the westlands roundabout. How true that is, I don't really know. Thinking out of the box here, do we really need to see video or pictures of traffic jam? I am thinking, what a motorist needs to know more is "how fast is traffic moving", this implies speed of vehicles past a given check point. This then invalidates the need for cameras AND the KShs. 40k per month. If this be true, the question becomes; how can we measure the speed at which vehicles are moving past the nyayo stadium roundabout? A low figure indicates heavy jam etc. Can we stick a GPRS/GSM capable motion detector under the fly over? Would it work? On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM, jude mwenda <judemwenda@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly Wesley, i stummbled upon this some time back http://www.njstateatlas.com/traffic/
Challenge is providing geo-information to Mobile phone users... considering the fact that majority of people in Kenya do not have phones with GPS functionality. A question that was raised at wherecampafrica was how do you provide geo info to people with such phones, considering their location. Phares talked about cell tower triangulation.. This is dependent on mobile phone companies, is there a way other than this. Any ideas?
2009/4/7 Christopher Kiagiri <ck@google.com>
I live in South C and as long as I leave home *after* 8:15 a.m. I usually get to the office in Westlands within 45 minutes.
However, if you have to get to work by 8:00 a.m. then you'd better be on the road before 6:30 a.m. as Wesley says. :)
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:37 AM, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
This reminds me of something I said back in Uni during lunch time with two of my friends (yes, it important for you to know the setting 8~)). Once one hears there is traffic on Uhuru Highway what else would you like to know? I believe Uhuru highway is the bottle neck of Nairobi.
Take a case: South C: Vehicles in Mombasa Rd can't join Uhuru highway fast enough so a long jam till Zain results. Motorists detour through South C and thus there is jam between South C and West where all Mombasa Rd and South C ppl are trying to escape. They finally meet Langata Rd and guess where Langata Rd. goes ...
*By the way it is faster to walk from South C to CBD than to take a vehicle*. Walking will take about 40 minutes max while driving will take about 1 hour, unless one leaves at about 6.30am.
o_O?
--- On *Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:04 PM
i'm thinking more in the lines of doing a traffic density google maps mashup. Problem is that the best source of such data would be telcos - assuming that majority of guys stuck in jam have phones. But honestly I would pay to get a near realtime map of where traffic is in nairobi on my phone so that i can choose the best route to go.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pkariuki@gmail.com>
wrote:
I was involved in scoping for such a project, problem is budjet. You need a 1mbps link between cameras, and service providers charge 40,000 KES monthly per 1mb link, local loop. They have an advertising deal with the Radio Stations, hence they are not charged. Further to this, the CCN was not of too much use getting approval from, along with suspicious building managers. That's where I left the situation at, as of Nov 2008, don't know if progress has been made though....
On 4/7/09, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I believe we can develop somthing like this. Problem is funding. If we had an organized transport/Nairobi development/... ministry or whoever is in charge then funding will not be an issue. After all such a project benefits everyone.
With the city wired up with fibre optic, the live cameras would give good video feed.
O_O
--- On *Tue, 4/7/09, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jmugambi@gmail.com>
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Subject: [Skunkworks] traffic congestion: solutions to hepa traffic To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<http://us.mc347.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:12 AM
What would it take to come up with this?
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Apply Dijkstra's Shortest path algorithm :-) On 4/7/09, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what wesley is describing is the "traffic ripple effect" Tom Cruise mentioned in MI3 (at the party when the movie has started :-) The gist of the theory being that the behavior of a traffic cop at the Nyayo roundabout on Msa rd will have a ripple effect all the way to the westlands roundabout. How true that is, I don't really know.
Thinking out of the box here, do we really need to see video or pictures of traffic jam? I am thinking, what a motorist needs to know more is "how fast is traffic moving", this implies speed of vehicles past a given check point. This then invalidates the need for cameras AND the KShs. 40k per month.
If this be true, the question becomes; how can we measure the speed at which vehicles are moving past the nyayo stadium roundabout? A low figure indicates heavy jam etc. Can we stick a GPRS/GSM capable motion detector under the fly over? Would it work?
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:59 PM, jude mwenda <judemwenda@gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly Wesley, i stummbled upon this some time back http://www.njstateatlas.com/traffic/
Challenge is providing geo-information to Mobile phone users... considering the fact that majority of people in Kenya do not have phones with GPS functionality. A question that was raised at wherecampafrica was how do you provide geo info to people with such phones, considering their location. Phares talked about cell tower triangulation.. This is dependent on mobile phone companies, is there a way other than this. Any ideas?
2009/4/7 Christopher Kiagiri <ck@google.com>
I live in South C and as long as I leave home *after* 8:15 a.m. I usually get to the office in Westlands within 45 minutes.
However, if you have to get to work by 8:00 a.m. then you'd better be on the road before 6:30 a.m. as Wesley says. :)
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:37 AM, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
This reminds me of something I said back in Uni during lunch time with two of my friends (yes, it important for you to know the setting 8~)). Once one hears there is traffic on Uhuru Highway what else would you like to know? I believe Uhuru highway is the bottle neck of Nairobi.
Take a case: South C: Vehicles in Mombasa Rd can't join Uhuru highway fast enough so a long jam till Zain results. Motorists detour through South C and thus there is jam between South C and West where all Mombasa Rd and South C ppl are trying to escape. They finally meet Langata Rd and guess where Langata Rd. goes ...
*By the way it is faster to walk from South C to CBD than to take a vehicle*. Walking will take about 40 minutes max while driving will take about 1 hour, unless one leaves at about 6.30am.
o_O?
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i'm thinking more in the lines of doing a traffic density google maps mashup. Problem is that the best source of such data would be telcos - assuming that majority of guys stuck in jam have phones. But honestly I would pay to get a near realtime map of where traffic is in nairobi on my phone so that i can choose the best route to go.
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I was involved in scoping for such a project, problem is budjet. You need a 1mbps link between cameras, and service providers charge 40,000 KES monthly per 1mb link, local loop. They have an advertising deal with the Radio Stations, hence they are not charged. Further to this, the CCN was not of too much use getting approval from, along with suspicious building managers. That's where I left the situation at, as of Nov 2008, don't know if progress has been made though....
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I believe we can develop somthing like this. Problem is funding. If we had an organized transport/Nairobi development/... ministry or whoever is in charge then funding will not be an issue. After all such a project benefits everyone.
With the city wired up with fibre optic, the live cameras would give good video feed.
O_O
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What would it take to come up with this?
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Again, as mentioned in the 'tom cruise' anectode, the traffic in kenya heavily depends on the cop(s) at the round about.. which could cause a misjudgement, because the cop could discriminate againist 1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic If you have motion/speed detectors, it could give you a false good/positive reading on numbers 3 and 4 and bad/negative reading on the less congested numbers 1 and 2. Because at the time of reading, 3 and 4 would be moving, and 1 and 2 would be still. I dont know if you get the points illustrated ?? Anyway, taking your idea-- i believe the best way would be to have sensors or detectors at various junctures in the road upto may be 500 metres from a junction or round abound,, These sensors would relay to a remote system the extent or how far back the vehicles are in a particular road. This of course would be based on the frequency of movement [depending on the type of sensors]. The normal 'light' sensors for example would take the average time it takes for them to 'see' each other across the road. Weight sensors would be another option. To illustrate 10 50 60 70 80 90 100 etc | | | | | | | A B C D E F G If sensors read stationary vehicles upto point B for example, but none beyound e.g 50 meters, then that is a good sign. If sensors pick stationary vehicles at point G, then dont go near that road... just as an example. This information from the sensors would be presented to a user either as an sms or in a simple graphical form. For example, i send to a special 4 digit number 'uhuru highway' and i receive a simple graph like this [based on a scale] :- ================ red or worstest [:-)] ============ yellow or bad ======= grey or acceptable === white or [use this one] The same can be put in a better format [complete with map and color] on a high end user phone - but this time, once can get a larger view of nairobi roads with these color codes interpreted by legends coloring different roads. If you see a road with red on your map, stay away. This of course would represent live feed from the sensors, to the system to your phone map via gsm/gprs or 3G. I think this would be another 'cheaper' way -- but the problem again is passing the bureaucracy and getting a budget :-) !!
Problem is you will need an independent body to deal with remote sensing of the roads. 2009/4/8 ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>
Again, as mentioned in the 'tom cruise' anectode, the traffic in kenya heavily depends on the cop(s) at the round about..
which could cause a misjudgement, because the cop could discriminate againist
1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic
If you have motion/speed detectors, it could give you a false good/positive reading on numbers 3 and 4 and bad/negative reading on the less congested numbers 1 and 2. Because at the time of reading, 3 and 4 would be moving, and 1 and 2 would be still.
I dont know if you get the points illustrated ??
Anyway, taking your idea-- i believe the best way would be to have sensors or detectors at various junctures in the road upto may be 500 metres from a junction or round abound,, These sensors would relay to a remote system the extent or how far back the vehicles are in a particular road.
This of course would be based on the frequency of movement [depending on the type of sensors]. The normal 'light' sensors for example would take the average time it takes for them to 'see' each other across the road. Weight sensors would be another option.
To illustrate
10 50 60 70 80 90 100 etc | | | | | | | A B C D E F G
If sensors read stationary vehicles upto point B for example, but none beyound e.g 50 meters, then that is a good sign. If sensors pick stationary vehicles at point G, then dont go near that road... just as an example.
This information from the sensors would be presented to a user either as an sms or in a simple graphical form. For example, i send to a special 4 digit number 'uhuru highway' and i receive a simple graph like this [based on a scale] :-
================ red or worstest [:-)] ============ yellow or bad ======= grey or acceptable === white or [use this one]
The same can be put in a better format [complete with map and color] on a high end user phone - but this time, once can get a larger view of nairobi roads with these color codes interpreted by legends coloring different roads. If you see a road with red on your map, stay away. This of course would represent live feed from the sensors, to the system to your phone map via gsm/gprs or 3G.
I think this would be another 'cheaper' way -- but the problem again is passing the bureaucracy and getting a budget :-) !!
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?? I do not understand the 'independent body' ,, why ??
What about an average? Say the motion devicey tells central control that "vehicles are moving past me at an average speed of 5Km per hour". Just realized the folly with this: a matatu 'bursting' past the sensor would skew the findinds! Okay, what if the devices measure, not the speed of vehicles, but the rate at which 'objects' are moving past it. Example: "5 vehicles have moved past me in the last 5 minutes". Then have 5 sensors spaced out over 100 metres upto to the roundabout. When central control receives all these readings, we can use some algorithms to determine just how fast traffic is. Taking your point on 1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic What if all these roads have sensors AND central control knows these sensors are linked by the same roundabout, this then can be used to 'advise' the cop on how better to release traffic. I think weight sensors are more invasive, requiring physical changes to the road, thus more costs and bureaucracy. Finally, once all the readings have been received at central control, they can be reformated, recalculated, extrapolated, mined, corelated [, space for more buzzwords here] and redistributed in as many media as there are: sms, mms, WAP, HTTP, audio, video etc. So, what next? On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Again, as mentioned in the 'tom cruise' anectode, the traffic in kenya heavily depends on the cop(s) at the round about..
which could cause a misjudgement, because the cop could discriminate againist
1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic
If you have motion/speed detectors, it could give you a false good/positive reading on numbers 3 and 4 and bad/negative reading on the less congested numbers 1 and 2. Because at the time of reading, 3 and 4 would be moving, and 1 and 2 would be still.
I dont know if you get the points illustrated ??
Anyway, taking your idea-- i believe the best way would be to have sensors or detectors at various junctures in the road upto may be 500 metres from a junction or round abound,, These sensors would relay to a remote system the extent or how far back the vehicles are in a particular road.
This of course would be based on the frequency of movement [depending on the type of sensors]. The normal 'light' sensors for example would take the average time it takes for them to 'see' each other across the road. Weight sensors would be another option.
To illustrate
10 50 60 70 80 90 100 etc | | | | | | | A B C D E F G
If sensors read stationary vehicles upto point B for example, but none beyound e.g 50 meters, then that is a good sign. If sensors pick stationary vehicles at point G, then dont go near that road... just as an example.
This information from the sensors would be presented to a user either as an sms or in a simple graphical form. For example, i send to a special 4 digit number 'uhuru highway' and i receive a simple graph like this [based on a scale] :-
================ red or worstest [:-)] ============ yellow or bad ======= grey or acceptable === white or [use this one]
The same can be put in a better format [complete with map and color] on a high end user phone - but this time, once can get a larger view of nairobi roads with these color codes interpreted by legends coloring different roads. If you see a road with red on your map, stay away. This of course would represent live feed from the sensors, to the system to your phone map via gsm/gprs or 3G.
I think this would be another 'cheaper' way -- but the problem again is passing the bureaucracy and getting a budget :-) !!
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@ Peter Inorder for them to approve the idea, i would propose that we make a small round about model complete with cars [toys] and sensors and devices that relay all this to a central system. We can fund this with some students to see through the modelling and some of us to see through the hardware code, and others the software code. Creating this model would be relatively cheap and a demo would serve for an audience with the powers that be to see this through. However, i would recommend that the cops be kept completely out of this equation [for obvious reasons] ,,, they can control the roads as they see fit,, this solution would be available to those who need it ,, in conjuction with the city council and the radio stations. Why dont we all meet in the next skunk works meeting ?? I dont know the venue though. See other thread. w/r On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
What about an average? Say the motion devicey tells central control that "vehicles are moving past me at an average speed of 5Km per hour". Just realized the folly with this: a matatu 'bursting' past the sensor would skew the findinds!
Okay, what if the devices measure, not the speed of vehicles, but the rate at which 'objects' are moving past it. Example: "5 vehicles have moved past me in the last 5 minutes". Then have 5 sensors spaced out over 100 metres upto to the roundabout. When central control receives all these readings, we can use some algorithms to determine just how fast traffic is.
Taking your point on 1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic
What if all these roads have sensors AND central control knows these sensors are linked by the same roundabout, this then can be used to 'advise' the cop on how better to release traffic.
I think weight sensors are more invasive, requiring physical changes to the road, thus more costs and bureaucracy.
Finally, once all the readings have been received at central control, they can be reformated, recalculated, extrapolated, mined, corelated [, space for more buzzwords here] and redistributed in as many media as there are: sms, mms, WAP, HTTP, audio, video etc.
So, what next?
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Again, as mentioned in the 'tom cruise' anectode, the traffic in kenya heavily depends on the cop(s) at the round about..
which could cause a misjudgement, because the cop could discriminate againist
1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic
If you have motion/speed detectors, it could give you a false good/positive reading on numbers 3 and 4 and bad/negative reading on the less congested numbers 1 and 2. Because at the time of reading, 3 and 4 would be moving, and 1 and 2 would be still.
I dont know if you get the points illustrated ??
Anyway, taking your idea-- i believe the best way would be to have sensors or detectors at various junctures in the road upto may be 500 metres from a junction or round abound,, These sensors would relay to a remote system the extent or how far back the vehicles are in a particular road.
This of course would be based on the frequency of movement [depending on the type of sensors]. The normal 'light' sensors for example would take the average time it takes for them to 'see' each other across the road. Weight sensors would be another option.
To illustrate
10 50 60 70 80 90 100 etc | | | | | | | A B C D E F G
If sensors read stationary vehicles upto point B for example, but none beyound e.g 50 meters, then that is a good sign. If sensors pick stationary vehicles at point G, then dont go near that road... just as an example.
This information from the sensors would be presented to a user either as an sms or in a simple graphical form. For example, i send to a special 4 digit number 'uhuru highway' and i receive a simple graph like this [based on a scale] :-
================ red or worstest [:-)] ============ yellow or bad ======= grey or acceptable === white or [use this one]
The same can be put in a better format [complete with map and color] on a high end user phone - but this time, once can get a larger view of nairobi roads with these color codes interpreted by legends coloring different roads. If you see a road with red on your map, stay away. This of course would represent live feed from the sensors, to the system to your phone map via gsm/gprs or 3G.
I think this would be another 'cheaper' way -- but the problem again is passing the bureaucracy and getting a budget :-) !!
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What i came across is measuring opacity of images from the cameras as an alternative. If the image fetched from a traffic camera is high, then we can make conclusions on its intensity. this is then used to update a geodatabase of the roads and patterns identified. this goes a liitle bit into a neural network. 2009/4/9 ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>
@ Peter Inorder for them to approve the idea, i would propose that we make a small round about model complete with cars [toys] and sensors and devices that relay all this to a central system. We can fund this with some students to see through the modelling and some of us to see through the hardware code, and others the software code.
Creating this model would be relatively cheap and a demo would serve for an audience with the powers that be to see this through.
However, i would recommend that the cops be kept completely out of this equation [for obvious reasons] ,,, they can control the roads as they see fit,, this solution would be available to those who need it ,, in conjuction with the city council and the radio stations.
Why dont we all meet in the next skunk works meeting ?? I dont know the venue though. See other thread.
w/r
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
What about an average? Say the motion devicey tells central control that "vehicles are moving past me at an average speed of 5Km per hour". Just realized the folly with this: a matatu 'bursting' past the sensor would skew the findinds!
Okay, what if the devices measure, not the speed of vehicles, but the rate at which 'objects' are moving past it. Example: "5 vehicles have moved past me in the last 5 minutes". Then have 5 sensors spaced out over 100 metres upto to the roundabout. When central control receives all these readings, we can use some algorithms to determine just how fast traffic is.
Taking your point on 1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic
What if all these roads have sensors AND central control knows these sensors are linked by the same roundabout, this then can be used to 'advise' the cop on how better to release traffic.
I think weight sensors are more invasive, requiring physical changes to the road, thus more costs and bureaucracy.
Finally, once all the readings have been received at central control, they can be reformated, recalculated, extrapolated, mined, corelated [, space for more buzzwords here] and redistributed in as many media as there are: sms, mms, WAP, HTTP, audio, video etc.
So, what next?
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Again, as mentioned in the 'tom cruise' anectode, the traffic in kenya heavily depends on the cop(s) at the round about..
which could cause a misjudgement, because the cop could discriminate againist
1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic
If you have motion/speed detectors, it could give you a false good/positive reading on numbers 3 and 4 and bad/negative reading on the less congested numbers 1 and 2. Because at the time of reading, 3 and 4 would be moving, and 1 and 2 would be still.
I dont know if you get the points illustrated ??
Anyway, taking your idea-- i believe the best way would be to have sensors or detectors at various junctures in the road upto may be 500 metres from a junction or round abound,, These sensors would relay to a remote system the extent or how far back the vehicles are in a particular road.
This of course would be based on the frequency of movement [depending on the type of sensors]. The normal 'light' sensors for example would take the average time it takes for them to 'see' each other across the road. Weight sensors would be another option.
To illustrate
10 50 60 70 80 90 100 etc | | | | | | | A B C D E F G
If sensors read stationary vehicles upto point B for example, but none beyound e.g 50 meters, then that is a good sign. If sensors pick stationary vehicles at point G, then dont go near that road... just as an example.
This information from the sensors would be presented to a user either as an sms or in a simple graphical form. For example, i send to a special 4 digit number 'uhuru highway' and i receive a simple graph like this [based on a scale] :-
================ red or worstest [:-)] ============ yellow or bad ======= grey or acceptable === white or [use this one]
The same can be put in a better format [complete with map and color] on a high end user phone - but this time, once can get a larger view of nairobi roads with these color codes interpreted by legends coloring different roads. If you see a road with red on your map, stay away. This of course would represent live feed from the sensors, to the system to your phone map via gsm/gprs or 3G.
I think this would be another 'cheaper' way -- but the problem again is passing the bureaucracy and getting a budget :-) !!
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There are now cameras which are very good with pattern recognition. Two of them at a distance will take samples of vehicles (number plates) and calculate time take between two points. These are coming into the commercial market especially in Israel and are not very expensive (50k a piece). On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:43 PM, jude mwenda <judemwenda@gmail.com> wrote:
What i came across is measuring opacity of images from the cameras as an alternative. If the image fetched from a traffic camera is high, then we can make conclusions on its intensity. this is then used to update a geodatabase of the roads and patterns identified. this goes a liitle bit into a neural network.
2009/4/9 ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>
@ Peter
Inorder for them to approve the idea, i would propose that we make a small round about model complete with cars [toys] and sensors and devices that relay all this to a central system. We can fund this with some students to see through the modelling and some of us to see through the hardware code, and others the software code.
Creating this model would be relatively cheap and a demo would serve for an audience with the powers that be to see this through.
However, i would recommend that the cops be kept completely out of this equation [for obvious reasons] ,,, they can control the roads as they see fit,, this solution would be available to those who need it ,, in conjuction with the city council and the radio stations.
Why dont we all meet in the next skunk works meeting ?? I dont know the venue though. See other thread.
w/r
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>wrote:
What about an average? Say the motion devicey tells central control that "vehicles are moving past me at an average speed of 5Km per hour". Just realized the folly with this: a matatu 'bursting' past the sensor would skew the findinds!
Okay, what if the devices measure, not the speed of vehicles, but the rate at which 'objects' are moving past it. Example: "5 vehicles have moved past me in the last 5 minutes". Then have 5 sensors spaced out over 100 metres upto to the roundabout. When central control receives all these readings, we can use some algorithms to determine just how fast traffic is.
Taking your point on 1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic
What if all these roads have sensors AND central control knows these sensors are linked by the same roundabout, this then can be used to 'advise' the cop on how better to release traffic.
I think weight sensors are more invasive, requiring physical changes to the road, thus more costs and bureaucracy.
Finally, once all the readings have been received at central control, they can be reformated, recalculated, extrapolated, mined, corelated [, space for more buzzwords here] and redistributed in as many media as there are: sms, mms, WAP, HTTP, audio, video etc.
So, what next?
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com
wrote:
Again, as mentioned in the 'tom cruise' anectode, the traffic in kenya heavily depends on the cop(s) at the round about..
which could cause a misjudgement, because the cop could discriminate againist
1) a low priority road 2) or a road without much traffic 3) in favor of the high priority road 4) or a road with much traffic
If you have motion/speed detectors, it could give you a false good/positive reading on numbers 3 and 4 and bad/negative reading on the less congested numbers 1 and 2. Because at the time of reading, 3 and 4 would be moving, and 1 and 2 would be still.
I dont know if you get the points illustrated ??
Anyway, taking your idea-- i believe the best way would be to have sensors or detectors at various junctures in the road upto may be 500 metres from a junction or round abound,, These sensors would relay to a remote system the extent or how far back the vehicles are in a particular road.
This of course would be based on the frequency of movement [depending on the type of sensors]. The normal 'light' sensors for example would take the average time it takes for them to 'see' each other across the road. Weight sensors would be another option.
To illustrate
10 50 60 70 80 90 100 etc | | | | | | | A B C D E F G
If sensors read stationary vehicles upto point B for example, but none beyound e.g 50 meters, then that is a good sign. If sensors pick stationary vehicles at point G, then dont go near that road... just as an example.
This information from the sensors would be presented to a user either as an sms or in a simple graphical form. For example, i send to a special 4 digit number 'uhuru highway' and i receive a simple graph like this [based on a scale] :-
================ red or worstest [:-)] ============ yellow or bad ======= grey or acceptable === white or [use this one]
The same can be put in a better format [complete with map and color] on a high end user phone - but this time, once can get a larger view of nairobi roads with these color codes interpreted by legends coloring different roads. If you see a road with red on your map, stay away. This of course would represent live feed from the sensors, to the system to your phone map via gsm/gprs or 3G.
I think this would be another 'cheaper' way -- but the problem again is passing the bureaucracy and getting a budget :-) !!
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good concept on the opacity - i dont know how this works exactly unless the camera has a feed back mechanism that makes it draw that the image it is seeing is opaque. e.g an a radio wave sensor put end to end would draw such a conclusion if it does not receive waves from the source across the road e.g normal light, laser light etc. all the possible situations will be considered and that is why mabbe we should all pitch in and see what can work best. I understand next skunk meeting is on tuesday the 14th on teleposta towers, 4th floor at 6pm. w/r
@Peter
What if all these roads have sensors AND central control knows these sensors are linked by the same roundabout, this then can be used to 'advise' the cop on how better to release traffic.
I recommend leaving out the cop as their is currently a solution in the form of timed and syched traffic lights which the cop contradicts causing more agony for drivers. except for that when drivers disobey the lights all hell breaks loose. Ashford K. 2009/4/10 ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>
good concept on the opacity - i dont know how this works exactly unless the camera has a feed back mechanism that makes it draw that the image it is seeing is opaque. e.g an a radio wave sensor put end to end would draw such a conclusion if it does not receive waves from the source across the road e.g normal light, laser light etc.
all the possible situations will be considered and that is why mabbe we should all pitch in and see what can work best. I understand next skunk meeting is on tuesday the 14th on teleposta towers, 4th floor at 6pm.
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Ashford Maina -
Christopher Kiagiri -
janet karani -
Josphat Karanja -
jude mwenda -
ndungu stephen -
Patti Mwasi -
Peter Karunyu -
wesley kiriinya