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Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:40:15 +0300 From: Raymond Rono <raymond.rono@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Just a thought Message-ID: <CAPAM+wjrNH_dPXz3oW-TcYE4xxHxAmQw30ZdJY5xtVEQaGVFBw@mail.gmail.com

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@Karunyu, You must be a Systems Designer/Analyst. @ Njoroge, You must be a Systems Developer/Programmer. I like both arguments coz what we are all saying is that a technological solution is required - the end justifies the means - and that for it to be feasible, some analysis/design is required - means to an end.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:

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I am not against such a system, its just that I think we should put more thought into designing the solution.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM, kris njoroge <krsnjo@gmail.com> wrote:

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@Peter the important thing here is not that the data will sit in one database, for example once the system is in place the statistic's bureau could be better placed to give timely and accurate data that could be used for development purposes or business. Think about it we are all elements in a system and are all inter-related in some sense. They say Nairobi has 4 million inhabitants, where do they all live, are there services where they do what is there household incomes for example. How easy would it be to get that information? How many people are trained as electrical engineers and what level of study do they have college, university?.

The fear of your data being stolen should not be an issue.

The fear of data being stolen is a VERY real issue for some reason, probably why there are several legislation's which provide guidelines on it. The more the data becomes personal, the more it needs to be secured and restricted.

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How many banks have you heard have been hacked into? Most of the theft is done with help from the inside, same way right now if you know somebody you could mine information on someones bank accounts etc.

I read somewhere on the net that banks tend to NOT report any frauds or hacking to the public domain for fear of client backlash.

Any human designed system can be hacked, its all a matter of time and effort. Ideally, security experts just try to make it really time and effort consuming when they secure systems, thus make the hackers focus on easier targets.

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As an important service by the government i believe the right people would be hired if they have not already been.

I wish not to make this a political discussion, but our type of government is led by politicians, who tend to make political decisions when appointing people to positions. This significantly reduces my trust in the fact that politicians will appoint the right people to the right positions.

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Unless am not looking at it right all proposed data entry points have access to electricity and a mobile network. The Local hospital, the chief's, also they could have rechargeable devices that could be used in the field if the need arises.

Again, this is a error programmers make, i.e assuming all users run the latest version of Firefox, read instructions on screen before entering data etc...

What are the data entry points?

In my opinion, these would be all government offices and facilities, including remote chief's camp's. I come from the slopes of mount Kenya, a relatively well to do region, and in some of the interiors, chief's offices are just mabati sheds without even a typewriter, leave alone a computer. How bad is it in NEP?

Suppose one is in an area where they have to climb a tree to access mobile network signal?

However, we are asking the right questions. Given these operating conditions, we should then put in a core requirement, that the solution should be useable on mobile phones with or without internet.

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