@ Paul, I think the contents of the message is clear if you took time to read the subject before replying. Regards, Mugo M. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:

What you are looking for is a graphics and web designer, not an IT manager

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Silas Savali < silas@insightconsultancy.net> wrote:

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Dear All

I am looking for an IT Manager with a minimum of 5 years experience in the field. Experienced in Windows (MCSE) , Linux, Networking (A+, N+) CCNA. Knowledge of Sage Accounts will be an added advantage. Salary is negotiable at approx 150k. Male candidates are preferred but qualified ladies will be very much considered

Webmaster / Graphics Designer

- General knowledge of HTML/CSS - Graphic Designer - Can use Adobe Creative suite comfortably - Coreldraw knowledge a plus - Please send a list of websites designed and or managed - Send also some samples of design work eg Newspaper adverts, Posters, banners etc - Knowledge of computer maintenance and basic networking is a plus as you will be based in the Nairobi office while the IT people are based in the Mombasa office so you can double up as IT support for Nairobi office - Salary is negotiable - Ladies preferred

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I agree that Job Description does not fit the title "IT Manager" On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:

What you are looking for is a graphics and web designer, not an IT manager

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Silas Savali <silas@insightconsultancy.net> wrote:

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Dear All

I am looking for an IT Manager with a minimum of 5 years experience in the field. Experienced in Windows (MCSE) , Linux, Networking (A+, N+) CCNA. Knowledge of Sage Accounts will be an added advantage. Salary is negotiable at approx 150k. Male candidates are preferred but qualified ladies will be very much considered

Webmaster / Graphics Designer

General knowledge of HTML/CSS Graphic Designer Can use Adobe Creative suite comfortably Coreldraw knowledge a plus Please send a list of websites designed and or managed Send also some samples of design work eg Newspaper adverts, Posters, banners etc Knowledge of computer maintenance and basic networking is a plus as you will be based in the Nairobi office while the IT people are based in the Mombasa office so you can double up as IT support for Nairobi office Salary is negotiable Ladies preferred

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oh ok. sorry had not seen those are two posts. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:33 PM, pithon kamau <pitkag@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys, Please read slowly. Those are two ads

IT Manager  Graphics and Web Designer

Silas , I think you should relay the message in point form, underline the headings :)

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:

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I agree that Job Description does not fit the title "IT Manager"

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:

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What you are looking for is a graphics and web designer, not an IT manager

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Silas Savali <silas@insightconsultancy.net> wrote:

...

Dear All

I am looking for an IT Manager with a minimum of 5 years experience in the field. Experienced in Windows (MCSE) , Linux, Networking (A+, N+) CCNA. Knowledge of Sage Accounts will be an added advantage. Salary is negotiable at approx 150k. Male candidates are preferred but qualified ladies will be very much considered

Webmaster / Graphics Designer

General knowledge of HTML/CSS Graphic Designer Can use Adobe Creative suite comfortably Coreldraw knowledge a plus Please send a list of websites designed and or managed Send also some samples of design work eg Newspaper adverts, Posters, banners etc Knowledge of computer maintenance and basic networking is a plus as you will be based in the Nairobi office while the IT people are based in the Mombasa office so you can double up as IT support for Nairobi office Salary is negotiable Ladies preferred

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On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 17:50, Silas Savali <silas@afrikanism.com> wrote:

Hi All

Just to clarify, Im looking for 2 people

- IT Manager - Web/Graphic Designer

Knowledge of Sage Accounting is overstretching the IT Manager. Some IT Manager materials are not even experts when it comes to MS Office Suite. That is for IT Support Pros. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

Actually that is the tagline "LADIES ARE PREFERRED" what else is in the JD that's not published? Rather Sad! Kiania D On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:

In line with the new constitution I believe it is illegal to discriminate on gender basis.

On Monday, May 16, 2011, Silas Savali <silas@insightconsultancy.net> wrote:

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Dear All

I am looking for an IT Manager with a minimum of 5 years experience in the field. Experienced in Windows (MCSE) , Linux, Networking (A+, N+) CCNA. Knowledge of Sage Accounts will be an added advantage. Salary is negotiable at approx 150k. Male candidates are preferred but qualified ladies will be very much considered

Webmaster / Graphics Designer General knowledge of HTML/CSSGraphic DesignerCan use Adobe Creative suite comfortablyCoreldraw knowledge a plusPlease send a list of websites designed and or managed

Send also some samples of design work eg Newspaper adverts, Posters, banners etc Knowledge of computer maintenance and basic networking is a plus as you will be based in the Nairobi office while the IT people are based in the Mombasa office so you can double up as IT support for Nairobi office

Salary is negotiable Ladies preferredSend me your CV offlist to my address. I welcome any clarifications and or queries

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Hehe On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Imelda Mueni <mueni.imelda1@gmail.com>wrote:

That is discrimination ," *Male candidates are preferred but qualified ladies will be very much considered" an your integrity is questionable too*

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Silas Savali < silas@insightconsultancy.net> wrote:

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Dear All

I am looking for an IT Manager with a minimum of 5 years experience in the field. Experienced in Windows (MCSE) , Linux, Networking (A+, N+) CCNA. Knowledge of Sage Accounts will be an added advantage. Salary is negotiable at approx 150k. Male candidates are preferred but qualified ladies will be very much considered

Webmaster / Graphics Designer

- General knowledge of HTML/CSS - Graphic Designer - Can use Adobe Creative suite comfortably - Coreldraw knowledge a plus - Please send a list of websites designed and or managed - Send also some samples of design work eg Newspaper adverts, Posters, banners etc - Knowledge of computer maintenance and basic networking is a plus as you will be based in the Nairobi office while the IT people are based in the Mombasa office so you can double up as IT support for Nairobi office - Salary is negotiable - Ladies preferred

Send me your CV offlist to my address. I welcome any clarifications and or queries

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I notice Imelda did not say anything about the last line... "Ladies preferredSend me your CV offlist to my address. I welcome any clarifications and or queries" On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

There is positive and negative discrimination. If he can prove that the job really requires a male, then that is positive discrimination. And by the way, you can not cry out that you are discriminated if you first don't apply and are rejected or someone preferred over you. If only some of us really read labour law then there would be less issues.

./Ok3ch

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Paul Kevin <paultitude@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hehe

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Imelda Mueni <mueni.imelda1@gmail.com> wrote:

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That is discrimination ," Male candidates are preferred but qualified ladies will be very much considered" an your integrity is questionable

too

...

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Silas Savali <silas@insightconsultancy.net> wrote:

...

Dear All

I am looking for an IT Manager with a minimum of 5 years experience in the field. Experienced in Windows (MCSE) , Linux, Networking (A+, N+)

CCNA.

...

...

Knowledge of Sage Accounts will be an added advantage. Salary is negotiable at approx 150k. Male candidates are preferred but qualified ladies will be very much considered

Webmaster / Graphics Designer

General knowledge of HTML/CSS Graphic Designer Can use Adobe Creative suite comfortably Coreldraw knowledge a plus Please send a list of websites designed and or managed Send also some samples of design work eg Newspaper adverts, Posters, banners etc Knowledge of computer maintenance and basic networking is a plus as you will be based in the Nairobi office while the IT people are based in the Mombasa office so you can double up as IT support for Nairobi office Salary is negotiable Ladies preferred

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Yes....they are VERY RARE On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

most IT firms have been looking for ladies in an effort to have Gender Balance in the workplace. Even worse is that they get accused for discrimination, while worse still, lady developers are rare to come across and the ratio appears to be worse than 1:10 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

for reference , a recent Google Technology User Group (GTUG) meetup at the iHub was said to have attracted more than 70 males and less than 5 females. Gender activists may have cried out, but clearly it will take much more to bridge the gap