Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore? The robbers took up other professions: 1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
Hi, I have also been asking myself the same questions for a little while now. My reasoning comes to these two answers: 1) *Heavy traffic jams*! After carrying out a heist, even the police do not need to chase after you. They can just follow your run-away car while walking very briskly and catch all of you with minimal effort, 2) Members of the police force do not have *too much patience with armed robbers* as they used to. Quite a number of years back in the 70s and 80s, the likes of John Kiriamiti and Kimami Kihika if I remember correctly, used to play cat-and-mouse games with the women and men in blue. Nowadays that is a no-no. Martin. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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*getaway* car, Sorry! On Jul 16, 2013 5:39 AM, "Martin Akolo Chiteri" <martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I have also been asking myself the same questions for a little while now. My reasoning comes to these two answers:
1) *Heavy traffic jams*! After carrying out a heist, even the police do not need to chase after you. They can just follow your run-away car while walking very briskly and catch all of you with minimal effort,
2) Members of the police force do not have *too much patience with armed robbers* as they used to. Quite a number of years back in the 70s and 80s, the likes of John Kiriamiti and Kimami Kihika if I remember correctly, used to play cat-and-mouse games with the women and men in blue. Nowadays that is a no-no.
Martin.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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The traffic jams seems a plausible reason, but there must be others, I think. How can there be too many guns being used to terrorize the ordinary man instead of being used most productively?:) My second point though was that these PRSPs have become the small-time-robber-millionaires. No use of guns, just gadgets. You are unknowingly subscribed to some SMS service and they ensure you (a) receive one daily - costs like 2.00 KES (b) don't know how to unsubscribe on the face of it - until you call your provider. Armed robbers could be executed on site or if unlucky, be taken to court! PRSPs sadly are not easy to take to court, and neither do they make it obvious for you to execute them (stop the service). They'll not refund what they'll stolen from you even if they were 'caught'! m-Robbery. PS: I don't remember a bank robber named Kimani Kihika. I only remember some firebrand MP named Kihika Kimani - was from Molo.... On 16 July 2013 05:39, Martin Akolo Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi,
I have also been asking myself the same questions for a little while now. My reasoning comes to these two answers:
1) *Heavy traffic jams*! After carrying out a heist, even the police do not need to chase after you. They can just follow your run-away car while walking very briskly and catch all of you with minimal effort,
2) Members of the police force do not have *too much patience with armed robbers* as they used to. Quite a number of years back in the 70s and 80s, the likes of John Kiriamiti and Kimami Kihika if I remember correctly, used to play cat-and-mouse games with the women and men in blue. Nowadays that is a no-no.
Martin.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
@Odhiambo, did you receive an annoying SMS from some PRSP in the recent past? In the last few hours, I came across a shiny blue button labelled "Send Outgoing SMSes", I couldn't resist clicking it, and before I could say a short curse word, 15k SMSes had been sent out! On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The traffic jams seems a plausible reason, but there must be others, I think. How can there be too many guns being used to terrorize the ordinary man instead of being used most productively?:)
My second point though was that these PRSPs have become the small-time-robber-millionaires. No use of guns, just gadgets. You are unknowingly subscribed to some SMS service and they ensure you (a) receive one daily - costs like 2.00 KES (b) don't know how to unsubscribe on the face of it - until you call your provider.
Armed robbers could be executed on site or if unlucky, be taken to court! PRSPs sadly are not easy to take to court, and neither do they make it obvious for you to execute them (stop the service). They'll not refund what they'll stolen from you even if they were 'caught'! m-Robbery.
PS: I don't remember a bank robber named Kimani Kihika. I only remember some firebrand MP named Kihika Kimani - was from Molo....
On 16 July 2013 05:39, Martin Akolo Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi,
I have also been asking myself the same questions for a little while now. My reasoning comes to these two answers:
1) *Heavy traffic jams*! After carrying out a heist, even the police do not need to chase after you. They can just follow your run-away car while walking very briskly and catch all of you with minimal effort,
2) Members of the police force do not have *too much patience with armed robbers* as they used to. Quite a number of years back in the 70s and 80s, the likes of John Kiriamiti and Kimami Kihika if I remember correctly, used to play cat-and-mouse games with the women and men in blue. Nowadays that is a no-no.
Martin.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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@Karunyu, I have been receiving an SMS a day for days, and especially in the wee hours (1am -3am) daily. Rather than whine, I just used an app to block the sender's number - 22070. When my head got free, I called Safaricom Customer Care and was told who this PRSP is. Oh, and I was informed I am subscribed to 2 PRSPs. My shock! My surprise is I have no dealings at all with these PRSPs and I've no intentions of. Plus I don't think I am the gullible type who can be deceived by Ads asking one to click & win (or 'like' and Win). I've been wondering how I got subscribed So instead of cancelling the subscriptions, I am looking for a legal way of dealing with them..Yes, I know they take only like KES 2.00 daily, but because I did not subscribe, this is why I call them robbers. On 16 July 2013 08:43, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Odhiambo, did you receive an annoying SMS from some PRSP in the recent past?
In the last few hours, I came across a shiny blue button labelled "Send Outgoing SMSes", I couldn't resist clicking it, and before I could say a short curse word, 15k SMSes had been sent out!
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The traffic jams seems a plausible reason, but there must be others, I think. How can there be too many guns being used to terrorize the ordinary man instead of being used most productively?:)
My second point though was that these PRSPs have become the small-time-robber-millionaires. No use of guns, just gadgets. You are unknowingly subscribed to some SMS service and they ensure you (a) receive one daily - costs like 2.00 KES (b) don't know how to unsubscribe on the face of it - until you call your provider.
Armed robbers could be executed on site or if unlucky, be taken to court! PRSPs sadly are not easy to take to court, and neither do they make it obvious for you to execute them (stop the service). They'll not refund what they'll stolen from you even if they were 'caught'! m-Robbery.
PS: I don't remember a bank robber named Kimani Kihika. I only remember some firebrand MP named Kihika Kimani - was from Molo....
On 16 July 2013 05:39, Martin Akolo Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi,
I have also been asking myself the same questions for a little while now. My reasoning comes to these two answers:
1) *Heavy traffic jams*! After carrying out a heist, even the police do not need to chase after you. They can just follow your run-away car while walking very briskly and catch all of you with minimal effort,
2) Members of the police force do not have *too much patience with armed robbers* as they used to. Quite a number of years back in the 70s and 80s, the likes of John Kiriamiti and Kimami Kihika if I remember correctly, used to play cat-and-mouse games with the women and men in blue. Nowadays that is a no-no.
Martin.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Phew! At least it wasn't me :-) On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Karunyu,
I have been receiving an SMS a day for days, and especially in the wee hours (1am -3am) daily. Rather than whine, I just used an app to block the sender's number - 22070. When my head got free, I called Safaricom Customer Care and was told who this PRSP is. Oh, and I was informed I am subscribed to 2 PRSPs. My shock! My surprise is I have no dealings at all with these PRSPs and I've no intentions of. Plus I don't think I am the gullible type who can be deceived by Ads asking one to click & win (or 'like' and Win). I've been wondering how I got subscribed So instead of cancelling the subscriptions, I am looking for a legal way of dealing with them..Yes, I know they take only like KES 2.00 daily, but because I did not subscribe, this is why I call them robbers.
On 16 July 2013 08:43, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Odhiambo, did you receive an annoying SMS from some PRSP in the recent past?
In the last few hours, I came across a shiny blue button labelled "Send Outgoing SMSes", I couldn't resist clicking it, and before I could say a short curse word, 15k SMSes had been sent out!
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The traffic jams seems a plausible reason, but there must be others, I think. How can there be too many guns being used to terrorize the ordinary man instead of being used most productively?:)
My second point though was that these PRSPs have become the small-time-robber-millionaires. No use of guns, just gadgets. You are unknowingly subscribed to some SMS service and they ensure you (a) receive one daily - costs like 2.00 KES (b) don't know how to unsubscribe on the face of it - until you call your provider.
Armed robbers could be executed on site or if unlucky, be taken to court! PRSPs sadly are not easy to take to court, and neither do they make it obvious for you to execute them (stop the service). They'll not refund what they'll stolen from you even if they were 'caught'! m-Robbery.
PS: I don't remember a bank robber named Kimani Kihika. I only remember some firebrand MP named Kihika Kimani - was from Molo....
On 16 July 2013 05:39, Martin Akolo Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi,
I have also been asking myself the same questions for a little while now. My reasoning comes to these two answers:
1) *Heavy traffic jams*! After carrying out a heist, even the police do not need to chase after you. They can just follow your run-away car while walking very briskly and catch all of you with minimal effort,
2) Members of the police force do not have *too much patience with armed robbers* as they used to. Quite a number of years back in the 70s and 80s, the likes of John Kiriamiti and Kimami Kihika if I remember correctly, used to play cat-and-mouse games with the women and men in blue. Nowadays that is a no-no.
Martin.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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What I know is that the thieves just got smarter e-robbery.. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Phew! At least it wasn't me :-)
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Karunyu,
I have been receiving an SMS a day for days, and especially in the wee hours (1am -3am) daily. Rather than whine, I just used an app to block the sender's number - 22070. When my head got free, I called Safaricom Customer Care and was told who this PRSP is. Oh, and I was informed I am subscribed to 2 PRSPs. My shock! My surprise is I have no dealings at all with these PRSPs and I've no intentions of. Plus I don't think I am the gullible type who can be deceived by Ads asking one to click & win (or 'like' and Win). I've been wondering how I got subscribed So instead of cancelling the subscriptions, I am looking for a legal way of dealing with them..Yes, I know they take only like KES 2.00 daily, but because I did not subscribe, this is why I call them robbers.
On 16 July 2013 08:43, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Odhiambo, did you receive an annoying SMS from some PRSP in the recent past?
In the last few hours, I came across a shiny blue button labelled "Send Outgoing SMSes", I couldn't resist clicking it, and before I could say a short curse word, 15k SMSes had been sent out!
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
The traffic jams seems a plausible reason, but there must be others, I think. How can there be too many guns being used to terrorize the ordinary man instead of being used most productively?:)
My second point though was that these PRSPs have become the small-time-robber-millionaires. No use of guns, just gadgets. You are unknowingly subscribed to some SMS service and they ensure you (a) receive one daily - costs like 2.00 KES (b) don't know how to unsubscribe on the face of it - until you call your provider.
Armed robbers could be executed on site or if unlucky, be taken to court! PRSPs sadly are not easy to take to court, and neither do they make it obvious for you to execute them (stop the service). They'll not refund what they'll stolen from you even if they were 'caught'! m-Robbery.
PS: I don't remember a bank robber named Kimani Kihika. I only remember some firebrand MP named Kihika Kimani - was from Molo....
On 16 July 2013 05:39, Martin Akolo Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi,
I have also been asking myself the same questions for a little while now. My reasoning comes to these two answers:
1) *Heavy traffic jams*! After carrying out a heist, even the police do not need to chase after you. They can just follow your run-away car while walking very briskly and catch all of you with minimal effort,
2) Members of the police force do not have *too much patience with armed robbers* as they used to. Quite a number of years back in the 70s and 80s, the likes of John Kiriamiti and Kimami Kihika if I remember correctly, used to play cat-and-mouse games with the women and men in blue. Nowadays that is a no-no.
Martin.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Good luck with legalities Wash. I repeat what I wrote sometime in the past - CCK is just but a 'nice-to-have' institution.
Whatever happened to one Alex Gakuru? On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Good luck with legalities Wash. I repeat what I wrote sometime in the past - CCK is just but a 'nice-to-have' institution.
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Bank Robberies are dependent on good traffic - try pulling off one in Nairobi and you get stuck at Uhuru-Mombasa road... [Note: In the movies - the robbers can park anywhere - and there is minimal traffic during "the chase" ]
@Bwana Lawi - Are you insinuating that Mr. Alex Gakuru's disappearance is related to the subject of this thread? - Am just asking for a friend ./Ok3ch On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Bank Robberies are dependent on good traffic - try pulling off one in Nairobi and you get stuck at Uhuru-Mombasa road...
[Note: In the movies - the robbers can park anywhere - and there is minimal traffic during "the chase" ]
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Most of the thugs are now script kiddies working behind the safety of the keyboard. Police don;t know where that place is. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh On 16 July 2013 11:57, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Bwana Lawi - Are you insinuating that Mr. Alex Gakuru's disappearance is related to the subject of this thread? - Am just asking for a friend
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Bank Robberies are dependent on good traffic - try pulling off one in Nairobi and you get stuck at Uhuru-Mombasa road...
[Note: In the movies - the robbers can park anywhere - and there is minimal traffic during "the chase" ]
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@Kivuva, Really? In Kenya?? I haven't yet heard of an major e-heist by those script kiddies. Maybe they will pull one soon. I however heard about one where the IT guys in a bank programmed the system to 'transfer' just KES 1.00 per account to an account they had - without being easily traced, but it was ultimately traced...No concrete evidence though. That's the first rumor I've propagated with some confidence! On 16 July 2013 11:58, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Most of the thugs are now script kiddies working behind the safety of the keyboard.
Police don;t know where that place is. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 16 July 2013 11:57, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Bwana Lawi - Are you insinuating that Mr. Alex Gakuru's disappearance is related to the subject of this thread? - Am just asking for a friend
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Bank Robberies are dependent on good traffic - try pulling off one in Nairobi and you get stuck at Uhuru-Mombasa road...
[Note: In the movies - the robbers can park anywhere - and there is minimal traffic during "the chase" ]
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I am also informed that the reason there is currently such a relatively small number of malware on personal computers today is because most of these ``virus writers" are now building apps for smartphones and tablet computing **AND** earning a decent living from those activities. <unconfirmedReports /> .... The rest are being used by the Russian mobs for performing high level extortion jobs electronically. These are actually the elites in these groups .... Martin. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Kivuva,
Really? In Kenya?? I haven't yet heard of an major e-heist by those script kiddies. Maybe they will pull one soon. I however heard about one where the IT guys in a bank programmed the system to 'transfer' just KES 1.00 per account to an account they had - without being easily traced, but it was ultimately traced...No concrete evidence though. That's the first rumor I've propagated with some confidence!
On 16 July 2013 11:58, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Most of the thugs are now script kiddies working behind the safety of the keyboard.
Police don;t know where that place is. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 16 July 2013 11:57, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Bwana Lawi - Are you insinuating that Mr. Alex Gakuru's disappearance is related to the subject of this thread? - Am just asking for a friend
./Ok3ch
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Bank Robberies are dependent on good traffic - try pulling off one in Nairobi and you get stuck at Uhuru-Mombasa road...
[Note: In the movies - the robbers can park anywhere - and there is minimal traffic during "the chase" ]
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@Odhiambo, I too have heard that rumour, propagated by my college lecturer as an illustration of *salami slicing*, but I didn't/don't believe it, though I don't have proof of either On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
@Kivuva,
Really? In Kenya?? I haven't yet heard of an major e-heist by those script kiddies. Maybe they will pull one soon. I however heard about one where the IT guys in a bank programmed the system to 'transfer' just KES 1.00 per account to an account they had - without being easily traced, but it was ultimately traced...No concrete evidence though. That's the first rumor I've propagated with some confidence!
On 16 July 2013 11:58, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
Most of the thugs are now script kiddies working behind the safety of the keyboard.
Police don;t know where that place is. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva twitter.com/lordmwesh google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
On 16 July 2013 11:57, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Bwana Lawi - Are you insinuating that Mr. Alex Gakuru's disappearance is related to the subject of this thread? - Am just asking for a friend
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com
wrote:
Bank Robberies are dependent on good traffic - try pulling off one in Nairobi and you get stuck at Uhuru-Mombasa road...
[Note: In the movies - the robbers can park anywhere - and there is minimal traffic during "the chase" ]
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uh-oh, PK, Wash knows where you live [?] On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Odhiambo, did you receive an annoying SMS from some PRSP in the recent past?
In the last few hours, I came across a shiny blue button labelled "Send Outgoing SMSes", I couldn't resist clicking it, and before I could say a short curse word, 15k SMSes had been sent out!
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
The traffic jams seems a plausible reason, but there must be others, I think. How can there be too many guns being used to terrorize the ordinary man instead of being used most productively?:)
My second point though was that these PRSPs have become the small-time-robber-millionaires. No use of guns, just gadgets. You are unknowingly subscribed to some SMS service and they ensure you (a) receive one daily - costs like 2.00 KES (b) don't know how to unsubscribe on the face of it - until you call your provider.
Armed robbers could be executed on site or if unlucky, be taken to court! PRSPs sadly are not easy to take to court, and neither do they make it obvious for you to execute them (stop the service). They'll not refund what they'll stolen from you even if they were 'caught'! m-Robbery.
PS: I don't remember a bank robber named Kimani Kihika. I only remember some firebrand MP named Kihika Kimani - was from Molo....
On 16 July 2013 05:39, Martin Akolo Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi,
I have also been asking myself the same questions for a little while now. My reasoning comes to these two answers:
1) *Heavy traffic jams*! After carrying out a heist, even the police do not need to chase after you. They can just follow your run-away car while walking very briskly and catch all of you with minimal effort,
2) Members of the police force do not have *too much patience with armed robbers* as they used to. Quite a number of years back in the 70s and 80s, the likes of John Kiriamiti and Kimami Kihika if I remember correctly, used to play cat-and-mouse games with the women and men in blue. Nowadays that is a no-no.
Martin.
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Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
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The upper and middle class are driving around with atm cards and expensive phones On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
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Theus - that's another very good reason. I remember the days of Bank heists, muggings were not commonplace. Carjackings were mostly for the purposes of getaways. Expensive phones were not common and even if one stole, they'd not find a place to use it without being 'seen'. I now see why robbers are targeting drivers .... Looks like a sustainable means, unlike the Banks which were one-off after a long time... On 16 July 2013 11:58, Theus Owuor <kootie73@gmail.com> wrote:
The upper and middle class are driving around with atm cards and expensive phones
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
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@Wash most of the banks hide the info on the same to maintain public confidence , but it is really happening. thats why they even put up unclaimed assets authority to prevent those iddle monies lying on the customers accounts. recently there was a case in eqbl and the culprits walked with 300 m and when they were caught the are out on bond of like 100k On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Theus - that's another very good reason. I remember the days of Bank heists, muggings were not commonplace. Carjackings were mostly for the purposes of getaways. Expensive phones were not common and even if one stole, they'd not find a place to use it without being 'seen'. I now see why robbers are targeting drivers .... Looks like a sustainable means, unlike the Banks which were one-off after a long time...
On 16 July 2013 11:58, Theus Owuor <kootie73@gmail.com> wrote:
The upper and middle class are driving around with atm cards and expensive phones
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Heheee..are they still around, waiting for the court cases?:) Was this information in the media or it was muffled by eqbl - to maintain public confidence? On 16 July 2013 13:39, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
@Wash most of the banks hide the info on the same to maintain public confidence , but it is really happening. thats why they even put up unclaimed assets authority to prevent those iddle monies lying on the customers accounts.
recently there was a case in eqbl and the culprits walked with 300 m and when they were caught the are out on bond of like 100k
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Theus - that's another very good reason. I remember the days of Bank heists, muggings were not commonplace. Carjackings were mostly for the purposes of getaways. Expensive phones were not common and even if one stole, they'd not find a place to use it without being 'seen'. I now see why robbers are targeting drivers .... Looks like a sustainable means, unlike the Banks which were one-off after a long time...
On 16 July 2013 11:58, Theus Owuor <kootie73@gmail.com> wrote:
The upper and middle class are driving around with atm cards and expensive phones
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Remember even KK security was heisted over the weekend and the media was paid to keep quite On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Heheee..are they still around, waiting for the court cases?:)
Was this information in the media or it was muffled by eqbl - to maintain public confidence?
On 16 July 2013 13:39, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
@Wash most of the banks hide the info on the same to maintain public confidence , but it is really happening. thats why they even put up unclaimed assets authority to prevent those iddle monies lying on the customers accounts.
recently there was a case in eqbl and the culprits walked with 300 m and when they were caught the are out on bond of like 100k
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
Theus - that's another very good reason. I remember the days of Bank heists, muggings were not commonplace. Carjackings were mostly for the purposes of getaways. Expensive phones were not common and even if one stole, they'd not find a place to use it without being 'seen'. I now see why robbers are targeting drivers .... Looks like a sustainable means, unlike the Banks which were one-off after a long time...
On 16 July 2013 11:58, Theus Owuor <kootie73@gmail.com> wrote:
The upper and middle class are driving around with atm cards and expensive phones
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Really? Is there a report at some Police Station?? We should get that out - pay the media more to disclose:) On 16 July 2013 15:02, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember even KK security was heisted over the weekend and the media was paid to keep quite
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Heheee..are they still around, waiting for the court cases?:)
Was this information in the media or it was muffled by eqbl - to maintain public confidence?
On 16 July 2013 13:39, Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com> wrote:
@Wash most of the banks hide the info on the same to maintain public confidence , but it is really happening. thats why they even put up unclaimed assets authority to prevent those iddle monies lying on the customers accounts.
recently there was a case in eqbl and the culprits walked with 300 m and when they were caught the are out on bond of like 100k
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Theus - that's another very good reason. I remember the days of Bank heists, muggings were not commonplace. Carjackings were mostly for the purposes of getaways. Expensive phones were not common and even if one stole, they'd not find a place to use it without being 'seen'. I now see why robbers are targeting drivers .... Looks like a sustainable means, unlike the Banks which were one-off after a long time...
On 16 July 2013 11:58, Theus Owuor <kootie73@gmail.com> wrote:
The upper and middle class are driving around with atm cards and expensive phones
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
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dont forget the others working in safcon, haretel, hyu & telcon.... check your credit balance after a reload and alas a shilling or a couple of cents gone...
Hehe. @Oketch, nope. Not really. It's just that I remember him being one of the champions for consumer protection, esp in the tech world. He'd definitely have said something about the e-robbery and the whole PRSP business On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Theus Owuor <kootie73@gmail.com> wrote:
The upper and middle class are driving around with atm cards and expensive phones
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Parliament? On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Change of tactic http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000088637&story_title=how-banks-l... On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com>wrote:
Parliament?
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Hi, On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com>wrote:
Parliament?
I thought we have been having parliamentarians since even before the Mau Mau uprisings?
Martin.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Bank robberies are trending down everywhere: http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21582004-crime-plunging-rich-world-kee... On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Martin Akolo Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Garr Patronas <garr.patronas@gmail.com> wrote:
Parliament?
I thought we have been having parliamentarians since even before the Mau Mau uprisings?
Martin.
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone guess why there are no bank robberies anymore?
The robbers took up other professions:
1. Some joined G4S 2. The majority invested in being PRSPs.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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participants (14)
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Bwana Lawi -
Garr Patronas -
Joseph Maina -
Kivuva -
Laban Mwangi -
Martin Akolo Chiteri -
MotoBaridi -
Nd'wex Common -
ndungu stephen -
Odhiambo Washington -
Okechukwu -
Peter Karunyu -
Theus Owuor -
Tony Likhanga