Safaricom is currently the fastest ISP in Kenya

I must say that Safaricom 3g is now the fastest internet service in Kenya at the moment for home users. Anyone working for any other ISP who is on this list is frre to prove me wrong. Kevin

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
I must say that Safaricom 3g is now the fastest internet service in Kenya at the moment for home users. Anyone working for any other ISP who is on this list is frre to prove me wrong.
I wish it was cheap too :-) Anyway, I am wondering when Access Kenya, KDN etc will switch to the Fiber. "Networks are not run like this", to quote Aki :) And while at it, I wonder what side effects the Fiber is bringing in. Anyone with ideas? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

I believe KDN on fiber just quoted 1MB for 600$ Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com <mailto:kevin.ouma@gmail.com>> wrote:
I must say that Safaricom 3g is now the fastest internet service in Kenya at the moment for home users. Anyone working for any other ISP who is on this list is frre to prove me wrong.
I wish it was cheap too :-)
Anyway, I am wondering when Access Kenya, KDN etc will switch to the Fiber. "Networks are not run like this", to quote Aki :)
And while at it, I wonder what side effects the Fiber is bringing in. Anyone with ideas?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke>wrote:
I believe KDN on fiber just quoted 1MB for 600$
@Max, I don't mean the quote! I mean having int'l traffic going out via the Seacom thingy:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke <mailto:maxwell@barua.co.ke>> wrote:
I believe KDN on fiber just quoted 1MB for 600$
@Max,
I don't mean the quote! I mean having int'l traffic going out via the Seacom thingy:-)
That quote is for bandwidth on seacom
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke>wrote:
Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke<mailto: maxwell@barua.co.ke>> wrote:
I believe KDN on fiber just quoted 1MB for 600$
@Max,
I don't mean the quote! I mean having int'l traffic going out via the Seacom thingy:-)
That quote is for bandwidth on seacom
What does that mean? Say, for now I have wireless connectivity to KDN and I pay US$ NNNN for XY/XYKbps monthly. If wanted to have my traffic via Seacom, I need to pay extra?? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Yeah, i have to say that is true broadband ,using it now. Can't wait for kdn to change to the seacom route from the new-skies. On 7/28/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke>wrote:
Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke<mailto: maxwell@barua.co.ke>> wrote:
I believe KDN on fiber just quoted 1MB for 600$
@Max,
I don't mean the quote! I mean having int'l traffic going out via the Seacom thingy:-)
That quote is for bandwidth on seacom
What does that mean? Say, for now I have wireless connectivity to KDN and I pay US$ NNNN for XY/XYKbps monthly. If wanted to have my traffic via Seacom, I need to pay extra??
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Jamal Mohamed wrote:
Yeah, i have to say that is true broadband ,using it now. Can't wait for kdn to change to the seacom route from the new-skies.
If i was a businessman, i would offer to you the new terms at the expiry of your current contract and not before. Thus its likely new clients signing up are getting the cable deals and old clients are staying on sat until expiry of current contracts. Again the planning bit Cheers, Mich

Michuki Mwangi wrote:
Jamal Mohamed wrote:
Yeah, i have to say that is true broadband ,using it now. Can't wait for kdn to change to the seacom route from the new-skies.
If i was a businessman, i would offer to you the new terms at the expiry of your current contract and not before.
Thus its likely new clients signing up are getting the cable deals and old clients are staying on sat until expiry of current contracts.
ISPs can always downgrade their bandwidth(capacity) with some of those providers, and use some of the cash to buy capacity on seacom, seen enough instances that has been done. I think the issue is just planning
Again the planning bit
Cheers,
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I am also appreciating the improved service I am getting from Safaricom, hoping the prices will come down soon too.. 2009/7/28 Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com>
Yeah, i have to say that is true broadband ,using it now. Can't wait for kdn to change to the seacom route from the new-skies.
On 7/28/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke wrote:
Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke<mailto: maxwell@barua.co.ke>> wrote:
I believe KDN on fiber just quoted 1MB for 600$
@Max,
I don't mean the quote! I mean having int'l traffic going out via the Seacom thingy:-)
That quote is for bandwidth on seacom
What does that mean? Say, for now I have wireless connectivity to KDN and I pay US$ NNNN for XY/XYKbps monthly. If wanted to have my traffic via Seacom, I need to pay extra??
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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yeah good speeds now we wait for 50cents per MB 2009/7/28 Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com>:
I am also appreciating the improved service I am getting from Safaricom, hoping the prices will come down soon too..
2009/7/28 Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com>
Yeah, i have to say that is true broadband ,using it now. Can't wait for kdn to change to the seacom route from the new-skies.
On 7/28/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke>wrote:
Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke<mailto: maxwell@barua.co.ke>> wrote:
I believe KDN on fiber just quoted 1MB for 600$
@Max,
I don't mean the quote! I mean having int'l traffic going out via the Seacom thingy:-)
That quote is for bandwidth on seacom
What does that mean? Say, for now I have wireless connectivity to KDN and I pay US$ NNNN for XY/XYKbps monthly. If wanted to have my traffic via Seacom, I need to pay extra??
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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I dont think safaricom prices are coming down soon: Orange botswana charge KES 34 per MB O2 Britain about KES 18 per MB (exc VAT) MTNL India about KES 8 per MB vodacom Tanzania about KES 12 /MB MTN Nigeria about KES 7.5 per MB Mobinil Egypt about KES 4 per MB China mobile a Whooping KES 337 per MB*(still not sure of this, it doesn't look right) MTN Rwanda about KES 8 per MB 2009/7/28 Steve <sikileng@gmail.com>
yeah good speeds now we wait for 50cents per MB
2009/7/28 Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com>:
I am also appreciating the improved service I am getting from Safaricom, hoping the prices will come down soon too..
2009/7/28 Jamal Mohamed <jamal.worx@gmail.com>
Yeah, i have to say that is true broadband ,using it now. Can't wait for kdn to change to the seacom route from the new-skies.
On 7/28/09, Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke>wrote:
Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ochieng Maxwell <maxwell@barua.co.ke<mailto: maxwell@barua.co.ke>> wrote:
I believe KDN on fiber just quoted 1MB for 600$
@Max,
I don't mean the quote! I mean having int'l traffic going out via
the
Seacom thingy:-)
That quote is for bandwidth on seacom
What does that mean? Say, for now I have wireless connectivity to KDN and I pay US$ NNNN for XY/XYKbps monthly. If wanted to have my traffic via Seacom, I need to pay extra??
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Hi everyone, Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
I wish it was cheap too :-)
Anyway, I am wondering when Access Kenya, KDN etc will switch to the Fiber. "Networks are not run like this", to quote Aki :)
This is where i would want to believe that being an ISP that for instance had committed to buying XMbps from a satellite provider there are penalties that come with quiting the contracts without notice. I would bet the same would apply to many other things in life. My assumption (and this is purely hypothetical) is that we have to wait until the satellite contracts expire and renewed in favor of the fiber circuits. This bit also excludes the part where folks have to go and buy transit beyond the landing points given by SEACOM i.e India (pune?) and London. That doesnt come overnight. It means folks have to put up kit at various colo's for termination (more contracts with collo's). If they didnt have the kit they have to buy it. Then negotiate peering and transit (more contracts). Then run tests with a couple of idle prefixes. Once everyones happy with everything - agree on a start date and then service starts then. The other option is to ofcourse buy transit from someone who has already brought it to Kenya which will be more expensive. So yeah its probably alot of paperwork and investment needed to be done before things go live. If folks didnt start this process like 3-4 months ago, then it means we have about 1-3 months (with all things constant and accelerated plans) which means folks wont also be in a position to negotiate for good deals too. What can i say - i hope someone started this way before the launch! :) cheers, Mich.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki@swiftkenya.com>wrote:
Hi everyone,
Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
I wish it was cheap too :-)
Anyway, I am wondering when Access Kenya, KDN etc will switch to the Fiber. "Networks are not run like this", to quote Aki :)
This is where i would want to believe that being an ISP that for instance had committed to buying XMbps from a satellite provider there are penalties that come with quiting the contracts without notice.
I would bet the same would apply to many other things in life. My assumption (and this is purely hypothetical) is that we have to wait until the satellite contracts expire and renewed in favor of the fiber circuits.
This bit also excludes the part where folks have to go and buy transit beyond the landing points given by SEACOM i.e India (pune?) and London. That doesnt come overnight. It means folks have to put up kit at various colo's for termination (more contracts with collo's). If they didnt have the kit they have to buy it. Then negotiate peering and transit (more contracts). Then run tests with a couple of idle prefixes. Once everyones happy with everything - agree on a start date and then service starts then.
The other option is to ofcourse buy transit from someone who has already brought it to Kenya which will be more expensive.
So yeah its probably alot of paperwork and investment needed to be done before things go live. If folks didnt start this process like 3-4 months ago, then it means we have about 1-3 months (with all things constant and accelerated plans) which means folks wont also be in a position to negotiate for good deals too.
What can i say - i hope someone started this way before the launch! :)
@Mich, You nailed it! I am not asking any providers when they are switching over anymore, but pray that they were prepared for this. Given that providers like KDN were going round signing up clients in readiness, I can only imagine they started their preparations way back. We've been so treated to a "hype" ;-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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Dennis Kioko
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Jamal Mohamed
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Kevin Ouma
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Michuki Mwangi
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Ochieng Maxwell
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Odhiambo ワシントン
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Paul Njoroge
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Steve