Re: [Skunkworks] [kictanet] [ISOC_KE] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussions Day one: Internet and the Counties
I'll bet that all of those government officers have 'work' emails but the ghetto Exchange/Qmail/Zimbra installations floating around this country just don't work. What I've seen in my limited time here (6 months) is that there's no focus on even 1 year ahead when it comes to ITC systems. This is not just a public sector problem although it's most obvious there. The issue seems most commonly to be some sharp kid comes out of school, sets something up that nobody else knows how to use, and then if he's really smart moves to a better job, leaving the unmaintained system behind, or if he's not so smart, sticks around but doesn't have the wherewithal to maintain and improve the system. Either way is problematic. What needs to happen is for local leaders to create more environments of excellence. Even a 3 or 4 person team of sharp tech people can do amazing things with ITC if they're given a budget and empowered to make things happen - a little political cover is all they really need from their bosses. I know there are alot of smart young people around (I've met them), but the old people are just strangling them. -Adam --- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
One thing that irks me to no end is up to today we see government officers both at the county level and national level communicating via email using yahoo, hotmail and gmail accounts yet the transition authority has already registered all the counties using the .go.ke extension. Can this be expedited?
Lets ensure basic ICT 101 cascades to the counties. Ensure we get this right as we talk about the big stuff..opendata, ERPs etc.
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 713 601113/ 0770 906375
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
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On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
1.KRA pin registration will be at county level/ Tax Returns 2. E-ticketing will boost county transportation system 3. E-transport/wi-fi in matatus/minibuses 4. E-marketing of various produce in different counties 5. E-tendering of county services to the county residence 6. Website development for the counties and Domain Name Registrations and so on and so forth....
Daniel O.Omondi Dotto Computer Agency P.O.Box 16753-00100 Cell:+254-722-756211 E-mail:dottocomp@yahoo.com Skype:dottocomp Facebook:dottocomp Nairobi,Kenya
------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; Skunkworks forum < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2013 9:58 PM *Subject:* [ISOC_KE] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussions Day one: Internet and the Counties
Listers,
As we prepare for the Kenya Internet Governance Forum to be held at Strathmore Business School on July 26th 2013, we would like to jumpstart the discussions through our mailing lists. Today we discuss the role of the Internet in our new devolved governance system:, the questions are as follows: 1. How can the Internet be used to facilitate Citizen participation in the county governments? 2. How can the Internet be used to facilitate service Delivery in the County Governments? 3. How can the Internet be used to promote good governance in the counties? 4. What opportunities does the Internet offer the counties from an economic perspective? The floor is open...
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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Many thanks colleagues for interesting insights as to how the Internet can contribute to better management of our devolved government system, we have had some teething challenges transitioning into the devolved governance system, how do you see the role of the transitional authority in facilitating adoption of internet related services in the county and how should they engage with stakeholders to turn this proposals into realities? On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
I'll bet that all of those government officers have 'work' emails but the ghetto Exchange/Qmail/Zimbra installations floating around this country just don't work. What I've seen in my limited time here (6 months) is that there's no focus on even 1 year ahead when it comes to ITC systems. This is not just a public sector problem although it's most obvious there.
The issue seems most commonly to be some sharp kid comes out of school, sets something up that nobody else knows how to use, and then if he's really smart moves to a better job, leaving the unmaintained system behind, or if he's not so smart, sticks around but doesn't have the wherewithal to maintain and improve the system. Either way is problematic. What needs to happen is for local leaders to create more environments of excellence. Even a 3 or 4 person team of sharp tech people can do amazing things with ITC if they're given a budget and empowered to make things happen - a little political cover is all they really need from their bosses. I know there are alot of smart young people around (I've met them), but the old people are just strangling them.
-Adam
--- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: https://angel.co/kili-io Musings: https://twitter.com/varud About Adam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
One thing that irks me to no end is up to today we see government officers both at the county level and national level communicating via email using yahoo, hotmail and gmail accounts yet the transition authority has already registered all the counties using the .go.ke extension. Can this be expedited?
Lets ensure basic ICT 101 cascades to the counties. Ensure we get this right as we talk about the big stuff..opendata, ERPs etc.
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 713 601113/ 0770 906375
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
1.KRA pin registration will be at county level/ Tax Returns 2. E-ticketing will boost county transportation system 3. E-transport/wi-fi in matatus/minibuses 4. E-marketing of various produce in different counties 5. E-tendering of county services to the county residence 6. Website development for the counties and Domain Name Registrations and so on and so forth....
Daniel O.Omondi Dotto Computer Agency P.O.Box 16753-00100 Cell:+254-722-756211 E-mail:dottocomp@yahoo.com Skype:dottocomp Facebook:dottocomp Nairobi,Kenya
------------------------------ *From:* Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; " isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>; Skunkworks forum < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2013 9:58 PM *Subject:* [ISOC_KE] Kenya Internet Governance Forum Online Discussions Day one: Internet and the Counties
Listers,
As we prepare for the Kenya Internet Governance Forum to be held at Strathmore Business School on July 26th 2013, we would like to jumpstart the discussions through our mailing lists. Today we discuss the role of the Internet in our new devolved governance system:, the questions are as follows: 1. How can the Internet be used to facilitate Citizen participation in the county governments? 2. How can the Internet be used to facilitate service Delivery in the County Governments? 3. How can the Internet be used to promote good governance in the counties? 4. What opportunities does the Internet offer the counties from an economic perspective? The floor is open...
-- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
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