Hi Josphat, In regard to the above topic: A cloud server is simply a physical server whose services are accessed and consumed remotely. The physical servers could be located anywhere (in a client's server room/data centre or in a service provider's data centre). However, there are various deployment models i.e: 1) Private Cloud: This is owned or leased by a single organization and operated solely for that organization. 2) Public cloud: Owned by an organization that leases/sells cloud services to the general public or a large industry group. 3) Hybrid cloud: A combination of 2 or more clouds (i.e private, public or community) 4) Community Cloud: Shared by several organizations and supports a specific community In addition, the deployment models above enable cloud service consumers to get access to services via various models i.e: 1) SAAS (Software As A Service) - End-user applications delivered as a service, instead of on-premise software 2) PAAS (Platform As A Service) - Application platform or middleware as a service on which developers can build and deploy custom applications. 3) IAAS (Infrastructure As A Service) - Compute, storage or other IT infrastructure as a service, rather than dedicated capability. Now, back to what your friend needs; leasing a physical server which will enable him/her to avoid capex. There are 2 options: 1) High level security requirements - Lease a private cloud where dedicated servers are hosted and managed by a service provider 2) Standard level security requirements - Lease a public cloud where VPS servers are hosted and managed by a service provider Locally, these services are available from Safaricom, MTN, GG(GestaltGild), Angani among others. Otherwise, i don't think he will get a service provider who leases out physical servers and allows him to manage/host them wherever/however he fills like. Best Regards, Patrick Kabuchi ICT Consultant Mobile: 0700644333 -----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke] Sent: 07 May 2015 07:59 To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: skunkworks Digest, Vol 12, Issue 55 Send skunkworks mailing list submissions to skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke You can reach the person managing the list at skunkworks-owner@lists.my.co.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of skunkworks digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: OT: Leasing of "physical" servers (Oliver Ndegwa) 2. Re: OT: Leasing of "physical" servers (Oliver Ndegwa) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 07:58:00 +0300 From: Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] OT: Leasing of "physical" servers Message-ID: <CA+ksG14ns1qbiES3GTtO13hnt-iudDhVTuzwOFCytD7GguQKmQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Now am confused!! On May 7, 2015 7:56 AM, "Oliver Ndegwa" <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the Guy means a dedicated server. Try MTN they have such offers where you get your own rack and a connection to it which you do whatever you want.
The other option would be you choose a shared plan where you get a virtual server within a machine shared by other customers.
Cloud service request can mean many things. Does he wants to manage it himself or have it managed by the provider?
What is he hosting, mail database, data storage? All these variables make all the difference when you are making a choice as to what service to pick.
My 2 cents Oliver On May 7, 2015 7:45 AM, "Josphat Karanja via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Wash....This guys has leased printers service and also outsources ICT maintenance.
He is convinced (or someone convinced him) he can also leased a server (instead of buying) which will physically reside at his office/cabinet.
He is avoiding the capex. I have not been able to convince him otherwise coz while I have loads of info and experience on use of cloud (angani, KENET, Safcom etc), I have no idea if servers are leased in the same mode of a leased printer.
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, PMP
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle
*Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sorry, lemme think about this a little bit.
Lease of physical servers:
1. I have a server farm and lease each out - depending on specs rqd by client? Naah, that would be expensive. 2. I have a server already running and I co-host a client (VPS)
Yes, VPS is the answer. Which begs the question - what really is the cloud?
On 6 May 2015 at 23:29, Jangita via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Odhis yawa ᐧ
On 6 May 2015 at 23:16, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
So the cloud is run on "imaginary servers"? LOL
Even the cloud is on physical servers sitting somewhere.
On 6 May 2015 at 21:07, Josphat Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
Anyone in this business? I have a friend who is interested in one. He knows about "Cloud" but wants to know about leasing a physical server...
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, PMP
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Hi @ Patrick Kabichi. Long time no see.. Warm Regards, Oliver Ndegwa *TRIPLE PLAY COMMUNICATION*P.O.Box 5207-00506, Nairobi | Phone : 254 02688421 | Cell: +254 713777001, 717883937 Dev Towers, Tubman Rd ,Nairobi, Kenya. | website: | www.tripleplaylive.net | skype:oliver.snom | Google talk:olie.ndegwa On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Patrick Gmail via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Josphat,
In regard to the above topic: A cloud server is simply a physical server whose services are accessed and consumed remotely. The physical servers could be located anywhere (in a client's server room/data centre or in a service provider's data centre). However, there are various deployment models i.e: 1) Private Cloud: This is owned or leased by a single organization and operated solely for that organization. 2) Public cloud: Owned by an organization that leases/sells cloud services to the general public or a large industry group. 3) Hybrid cloud: A combination of 2 or more clouds (i.e private, public or community) 4) Community Cloud: Shared by several organizations and supports a specific community
In addition, the deployment models above enable cloud service consumers to get access to services via various models i.e: 1) SAAS (Software As A Service) - End-user applications delivered as a service, instead of on-premise software 2) PAAS (Platform As A Service) - Application platform or middleware as a service on which developers can build and deploy custom applications. 3) IAAS (Infrastructure As A Service) - Compute, storage or other IT infrastructure as a service, rather than dedicated capability.
Now, back to what your friend needs; leasing a physical server which will enable him/her to avoid capex. There are 2 options: 1) High level security requirements - Lease a private cloud where dedicated servers are hosted and managed by a service provider 2) Standard level security requirements - Lease a public cloud where VPS servers are hosted and managed by a service provider
Locally, these services are available from Safaricom, MTN, GG(GestaltGild), Angani among others.
Otherwise, i don't think he will get a service provider who leases out physical servers and allows him to manage/host them wherever/however he fills like.
Best Regards, Patrick Kabuchi ICT Consultant Mobile: 0700644333
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Now am confused!! On May 7, 2015 7:56 AM, "Oliver Ndegwa" <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the Guy means a dedicated server. Try MTN they have such offers where you get your own rack and a connection to it which you do whatever you want.
The other option would be you choose a shared plan where you get a virtual server within a machine shared by other customers.
Cloud service request can mean many things. Does he wants to manage it himself or have it managed by the provider?
What is he hosting, mail database, data storage? All these variables make all the difference when you are making a choice as to what service to pick.
My 2 cents Oliver On May 7, 2015 7:45 AM, "Josphat Karanja via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Wash....This guys has leased printers service and also outsources ICT maintenance.
He is convinced (or someone convinced him) he can also leased a server (instead of buying) which will physically reside at his office/cabinet.
He is avoiding the capex. I have not been able to convince him otherwise coz while I have loads of info and experience on use of cloud (angani, KENET, Safcom etc), I have no idea if servers are leased in the same mode of a leased printer.
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, PMP
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle
*Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sorry, lemme think about this a little bit.
Lease of physical servers:
1. I have a server farm and lease each out - depending on specs rqd by client? Naah, that would be expensive. 2. I have a server already running and I co-host a client (VPS)
Yes, VPS is the answer. Which begs the question - what really is the cloud?
On 6 May 2015 at 23:29, Jangita via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Odhis yawa ᐧ
On 6 May 2015 at 23:16, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
So the cloud is run on "imaginary servers"? LOL
Even the cloud is on physical servers sitting somewhere.
On 6 May 2015 at 21:07, Josphat Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> Skunks, > > Anyone in this business? I have a friend who is interested in > one. He knows about "Cloud" but wants to know about leasing a physical server... > > > Regards > ........................................................... > Josphat Karanja, PMP > > "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, > but a habit." - Aristotle > > *Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Oliver, Long Time No See also On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Oliver Ndegwa via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi @ Patrick Kabichi.
Long time no see..
Warm Regards, Oliver Ndegwa
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On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Patrick Gmail via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Josphat,
In regard to the above topic: A cloud server is simply a physical server whose services are accessed and consumed remotely. The physical servers could be located anywhere (in a client's server room/data centre or in a service provider's data centre). However, there are various deployment models i.e: 1) Private Cloud: This is owned or leased by a single organization and operated solely for that organization. 2) Public cloud: Owned by an organization that leases/sells cloud services to the general public or a large industry group. 3) Hybrid cloud: A combination of 2 or more clouds (i.e private, public or community) 4) Community Cloud: Shared by several organizations and supports a specific community
In addition, the deployment models above enable cloud service consumers to get access to services via various models i.e: 1) SAAS (Software As A Service) - End-user applications delivered as a service, instead of on-premise software 2) PAAS (Platform As A Service) - Application platform or middleware as a service on which developers can build and deploy custom applications. 3) IAAS (Infrastructure As A Service) - Compute, storage or other IT infrastructure as a service, rather than dedicated capability.
Now, back to what your friend needs; leasing a physical server which will enable him/her to avoid capex. There are 2 options: 1) High level security requirements - Lease a private cloud where dedicated servers are hosted and managed by a service provider 2) Standard level security requirements - Lease a public cloud where VPS servers are hosted and managed by a service provider
Locally, these services are available from Safaricom, MTN, GG(GestaltGild), Angani among others.
Otherwise, i don't think he will get a service provider who leases out physical servers and allows him to manage/host them wherever/however he fills like.
Best Regards, Patrick Kabuchi ICT Consultant Mobile: 0700644333
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Now am confused!! On May 7, 2015 7:56 AM, "Oliver Ndegwa" <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the Guy means a dedicated server. Try MTN they have such offers where you get your own rack and a connection to it which you do whatever you want.
The other option would be you choose a shared plan where you get a virtual server within a machine shared by other customers.
Cloud service request can mean many things. Does he wants to manage it himself or have it managed by the provider?
What is he hosting, mail database, data storage? All these variables make all the difference when you are making a choice as to what service to pick.
My 2 cents Oliver On May 7, 2015 7:45 AM, "Josphat Karanja via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Wash....This guys has leased printers service and also outsources ICT maintenance.
He is convinced (or someone convinced him) he can also leased a server (instead of buying) which will physically reside at his office/cabinet.
He is avoiding the capex. I have not been able to convince him otherwise coz while I have loads of info and experience on use of cloud (angani, KENET, Safcom etc), I have no idea if servers are leased in the same mode of a leased printer.
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, PMP
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle
*Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sorry, lemme think about this a little bit.
Lease of physical servers:
1. I have a server farm and lease each out - depending on specs rqd by client? Naah, that would be expensive. 2. I have a server already running and I co-host a client (VPS)
Yes, VPS is the answer. Which begs the question - what really is the cloud?
On 6 May 2015 at 23:29, Jangita via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Odhis yawa ᐧ
On 6 May 2015 at 23:16, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> So the cloud is run on "imaginary servers"? LOL > > Even the cloud is on physical servers sitting somewhere. > > On 6 May 2015 at 21:07, Josphat Karanja via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Skunks, >> >> Anyone in this business? I have a friend who is interested in >> one. He knows about "Cloud" but wants to know about leasing a physical server... >> >> >> Regards >> ........................................................... >> Josphat Karanja, PMP >> >> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, >> but a habit." - Aristotle >> >> *Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Patrick, They do not want to use cloud services, private or otherwise. Its just like when you lease a car (self-drive) or a print. They are delivered to you for use during the duration of the lease. In this case the server will reside at their premises. But there will lease it and it will remain the property of the leasing company... Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, PMP "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle *Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/ On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Patrick Gmail via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Josphat,
In regard to the above topic: A cloud server is simply a physical server whose services are accessed and consumed remotely. The physical servers could be located anywhere (in a client's server room/data centre or in a service provider's data centre). However, there are various deployment models i.e: 1) Private Cloud: This is owned or leased by a single organization and operated solely for that organization. 2) Public cloud: Owned by an organization that leases/sells cloud services to the general public or a large industry group. 3) Hybrid cloud: A combination of 2 or more clouds (i.e private, public or community) 4) Community Cloud: Shared by several organizations and supports a specific community
In addition, the deployment models above enable cloud service consumers to get access to services via various models i.e: 1) SAAS (Software As A Service) - End-user applications delivered as a service, instead of on-premise software 2) PAAS (Platform As A Service) - Application platform or middleware as a service on which developers can build and deploy custom applications. 3) IAAS (Infrastructure As A Service) - Compute, storage or other IT infrastructure as a service, rather than dedicated capability.
Now, back to what your friend needs; leasing a physical server which will enable him/her to avoid capex. There are 2 options: 1) High level security requirements - Lease a private cloud where dedicated servers are hosted and managed by a service provider 2) Standard level security requirements - Lease a public cloud where VPS servers are hosted and managed by a service provider
Locally, these services are available from Safaricom, MTN, GG(GestaltGild), Angani among others.
Otherwise, i don't think he will get a service provider who leases out physical servers and allows him to manage/host them wherever/however he fills like.
Best Regards, Patrick Kabuchi ICT Consultant Mobile: 0700644333
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Now am confused!! On May 7, 2015 7:56 AM, "Oliver Ndegwa" <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the Guy means a dedicated server. Try MTN they have such offers where you get your own rack and a connection to it which you do whatever you want.
The other option would be you choose a shared plan where you get a virtual server within a machine shared by other customers.
Cloud service request can mean many things. Does he wants to manage it himself or have it managed by the provider?
What is he hosting, mail database, data storage? All these variables make all the difference when you are making a choice as to what service to pick.
My 2 cents Oliver On May 7, 2015 7:45 AM, "Josphat Karanja via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Wash....This guys has leased printers service and also outsources ICT maintenance.
He is convinced (or someone convinced him) he can also leased a server (instead of buying) which will physically reside at his office/cabinet.
He is avoiding the capex. I have not been able to convince him otherwise coz while I have loads of info and experience on use of cloud (angani, KENET, Safcom etc), I have no idea if servers are leased in the same mode of a leased printer.
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, PMP
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On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sorry, lemme think about this a little bit.
Lease of physical servers:
1. I have a server farm and lease each out - depending on specs rqd by client? Naah, that would be expensive. 2. I have a server already running and I co-host a client (VPS)
Yes, VPS is the answer. Which begs the question - what really is the cloud?
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Odhis yawa ᐧ
On 6 May 2015 at 23:16, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
So the cloud is run on "imaginary servers"? LOL
Even the cloud is on physical servers sitting somewhere.
On 6 May 2015 at 21:07, Josphat Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> Skunks, > > Anyone in this business? I have a friend who is interested in > one. He knows about "Cloud" but wants to know about leasing a physical server... > > > Regards > ........................................................... > Josphat Karanja, PMP > > "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, > but a habit." - Aristotle > > *Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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@Josphat.. You talked about cloud earlier... A basic lease can be done from any hardware dealers out there. But eventually ends up being more expensive than buying your own as it has no value addition... Warm Regards, Oliver Ndegwa *TRIPLE PLAY COMMUNICATION*P.O.Box 5207-00506, Nairobi | Phone : 254 02688421 | Cell: +254 713777001, 717883937 Dev Towers, Tubman Rd ,Nairobi, Kenya. | website: | www.tripleplaylive.net | skype:oliver.snom | Google talk:olie.ndegwa On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Josphat Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Patrick,
They do not want to use cloud services, private or otherwise.
Its just like when you lease a car (self-drive) or a print. They are delivered to you for use during the duration of the lease. In this case the server will reside at their premises.
But there will lease it and it will remain the property of the leasing company...
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On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Patrick Gmail via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Josphat,
In regard to the above topic: A cloud server is simply a physical server whose services are accessed and consumed remotely. The physical servers could be located anywhere (in a client's server room/data centre or in a service provider's data centre). However, there are various deployment models i.e: 1) Private Cloud: This is owned or leased by a single organization and operated solely for that organization. 2) Public cloud: Owned by an organization that leases/sells cloud services to the general public or a large industry group. 3) Hybrid cloud: A combination of 2 or more clouds (i.e private, public or community) 4) Community Cloud: Shared by several organizations and supports a specific community
In addition, the deployment models above enable cloud service consumers to get access to services via various models i.e: 1) SAAS (Software As A Service) - End-user applications delivered as a service, instead of on-premise software 2) PAAS (Platform As A Service) - Application platform or middleware as a service on which developers can build and deploy custom applications. 3) IAAS (Infrastructure As A Service) - Compute, storage or other IT infrastructure as a service, rather than dedicated capability.
Now, back to what your friend needs; leasing a physical server which will enable him/her to avoid capex. There are 2 options: 1) High level security requirements - Lease a private cloud where dedicated servers are hosted and managed by a service provider 2) Standard level security requirements - Lease a public cloud where VPS servers are hosted and managed by a service provider
Locally, these services are available from Safaricom, MTN, GG(GestaltGild), Angani among others.
Otherwise, i don't think he will get a service provider who leases out physical servers and allows him to manage/host them wherever/however he fills like.
Best Regards, Patrick Kabuchi ICT Consultant Mobile: 0700644333
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Now am confused!! On May 7, 2015 7:56 AM, "Oliver Ndegwa" <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the Guy means a dedicated server. Try MTN they have such offers where you get your own rack and a connection to it which you do whatever you want.
The other option would be you choose a shared plan where you get a virtual server within a machine shared by other customers.
Cloud service request can mean many things. Does he wants to manage it himself or have it managed by the provider?
What is he hosting, mail database, data storage? All these variables make all the difference when you are making a choice as to what service to pick.
My 2 cents Oliver On May 7, 2015 7:45 AM, "Josphat Karanja via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Wash....This guys has leased printers service and also outsources ICT maintenance.
He is convinced (or someone convinced him) he can also leased a server (instead of buying) which will physically reside at his office/cabinet.
He is avoiding the capex. I have not been able to convince him otherwise coz while I have loads of info and experience on use of cloud (angani, KENET, Safcom etc), I have no idea if servers are leased in the same mode of a leased printer.
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, PMP
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle
*Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sorry, lemme think about this a little bit.
Lease of physical servers:
1. I have a server farm and lease each out - depending on specs rqd by client? Naah, that would be expensive. 2. I have a server already running and I co-host a client (VPS)
Yes, VPS is the answer. Which begs the question - what really is the cloud?
On 6 May 2015 at 23:29, Jangita via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Odhis yawa ᐧ
On 6 May 2015 at 23:16, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> So the cloud is run on "imaginary servers"? LOL > > Even the cloud is on physical servers sitting somewhere. > > On 6 May 2015 at 21:07, Josphat Karanja via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Skunks, >> >> Anyone in this business? I have a friend who is interested in >> one. He knows about "Cloud" but wants to know about leasing a physical server... >> >> >> Regards >> ........................................................... >> Josphat Karanja, PMP >> >> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, >> but a habit." - Aristotle >> >> *Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Correct explanation
On May 7, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Patrick Gmail via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Josphat,
In regard to the above topic: A cloud server is simply a physical server whose services are accessed and consumed remotely. The physical servers could be located anywhere (in a client's server room/data centre or in a service provider's data centre). However, there are various deployment models i.e: 1) Private Cloud: This is owned or leased by a single organization and operated solely for that organization. 2) Public cloud: Owned by an organization that leases/sells cloud services to the general public or a large industry group. 3) Hybrid cloud: A combination of 2 or more clouds (i.e private, public or community) 4) Community Cloud: Shared by several organizations and supports a specific community
In addition, the deployment models above enable cloud service consumers to get access to services via various models i.e: 1) SAAS (Software As A Service) - End-user applications delivered as a service, instead of on-premise software 2) PAAS (Platform As A Service) - Application platform or middleware as a service on which developers can build and deploy custom applications. 3) IAAS (Infrastructure As A Service) - Compute, storage or other IT infrastructure as a service, rather than dedicated capability.
Now, back to what your friend needs; leasing a physical server which will enable him/her to avoid capex. There are 2 options: 1) High level security requirements - Lease a private cloud where dedicated servers are hosted and managed by a service provider 2) Standard level security requirements - Lease a public cloud where VPS servers are hosted and managed by a service provider
Locally, these services are available from Safaricom, MTN, GG(GestaltGild), Angani among others.
Otherwise, i don't think he will get a service provider who leases out physical servers and allows him to manage/host them wherever/however he fills like.
Best Regards, Patrick Kabuchi ICT Consultant Mobile: 0700644333
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Now am confused!!
On May 7, 2015 7:56 AM, "Oliver Ndegwa" <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the Guy means a dedicated server. Try MTN they have such offers where you get your own rack and a connection to it which you do whatever you want.
The other option would be you choose a shared plan where you get a virtual server within a machine shared by other customers.
Cloud service request can mean many things. Does he wants to manage it himself or have it managed by the provider?
What is he hosting, mail database, data storage? All these variables make all the difference when you are making a choice as to what service to pick.
My 2 cents Oliver On May 7, 2015 7:45 AM, "Josphat Karanja via skunkworks" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Wash....This guys has leased printers service and also outsources ICT maintenance.
He is convinced (or someone convinced him) he can also leased a server (instead of buying) which will physically reside at his office/cabinet.
He is avoiding the capex. I have not been able to convince him otherwise coz while I have loads of info and experience on use of cloud (angani, KENET, Safcom etc), I have no idea if servers are leased in the same mode of a leased printer.
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, PMP
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle
*Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Sorry, lemme think about this a little bit.
Lease of physical servers:
1. I have a server farm and lease each out - depending on specs rqd by client? Naah, that would be expensive. 2. I have a server already running and I co-host a client (VPS)
Yes, VPS is the answer. Which begs the question - what really is the cloud?
On 6 May 2015 at 23:29, Jangita via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Odhis yawa ᐧ
On 6 May 2015 at 23:16, Odhiambo Washington via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
So the cloud is run on "imaginary servers"? LOL
Even the cloud is on physical servers sitting somewhere.
On 6 May 2015 at 21:07, Josphat Karanja via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> Skunks, > > Anyone in this business? I have a friend who is interested in > one. He knows about "Cloud" but wants to know about leasing a physical server... > > > Regards > ........................................................... > Josphat Karanja, PMP > > "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, > but a habit." - Aristotle > > *Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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