ASP and hosting in kenya
Some background : After almost a 5 year break, I can see many things have advanced in the asp world. Some of the successful projects that I created on asp : - Organization Contacts Database. Front end html including low traffic overhead over slow WAN links. Html database provided add, edit and full search by name, country, city etc. Despite access's 2GB limit, over 7000 contacts were stored into Db. I'm told sharepoint made the DB obsolete 2 year ago but is missed... - Freelancers expenses and budget reporting system. Front end html used to collect form data from various departments that deal with freelancers. Backend Ms Access which I setup with queries to prompt for freelancer name and month, provided detailed cost analysis of payments due and a gross summary of total budgets spent monthly/annual on such. Am told after 3 years of use, a complete HRM system replaced it... - Photo archive system. Full searchable, same concept front html with resize thumbnails and fields. Diffcult system as I still needed to master the thumbnails generator as DB size grew over the 2GB limit very quickly. Okay, moving on : For my future web/data projects, is SilverLight and asp.net the best to go forward with or is Ajax because so much has changed. Things like CSS are now there. And is any kenyan hosting provider able to do asp hosting or should I just use one of the many companies who do it on the net? I'd hate to have to start from scratch on php and mysql, just because of lamps ease. Adv is welcome. :-) Rgds.
Hi Aki, Talk to UUNET. A good friend of mine also might have some tips on ASP.NEThosting - he's lurking on the list tooo.. -- Josiah Mugambi Ogden Nash <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/o/ogden_nash.html> - "The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat." On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Some background : After almost a 5 year break, I can see many things have advanced in the asp world. Some of the successful projects that I created on asp :
- Organization Contacts Database. Front end html including low traffic overhead over slow WAN links. Html database provided add, edit and full search by name, country, city etc. Despite access's 2GB limit, over 7000 contacts were stored into Db. I'm told sharepoint made the DB obsolete 2 year ago but is missed...
- Freelancers expenses and budget reporting system. Front end html used to collect form data from various departments that deal with freelancers. Backend Ms Access which I setup with queries to prompt for freelancer name and month, provided detailed cost analysis of payments due and a gross summary of total budgets spent monthly/annual on such. Am told after 3 years of use, a complete HRM system replaced it...
- Photo archive system. Full searchable, same concept front html with resize thumbnails and fields. Diffcult system as I still needed to master the thumbnails generator as DB size grew over the 2GB limit very quickly.
Okay, moving on : For my future web/data projects, is SilverLight and asp.net the best to go forward with or is Ajax because so much has changed. Things like CSS are now there. And is any kenyan hosting provider able to do asp hosting or should I just use one of the many companies who do it on the net? I'd hate to have to start from scratch on php and mysql, just because of lamps ease.
Adv is welcome. :-)
Rgds.
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Hey Josiah, many thanks for the uunet info... I hope the .asp gurus will get back to me on advice forward i.e silverlight or ajax? :-) On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Aki,
Talk to UUNET. A good friend of mine also might have some tips on ASP.NET<http://asp.net/>hosting - he's lurking on the list tooo..
Aki, I am neither the .asp guru nor the uunet skunk liaison, but here to make a case for AJAX, which BTW, is language semi-independent. Since the main driver of AJAX is javascript, you can use PHP, Classic ASP, ASP.Net or just about any other web language for the back end (and thus by extension, any online database software), so long as you can output webcontent (i.e. HTML, XML etc) on the front end. Come to think of it, you can probably use C# too! :-) With AJAX, users wont have to download any plugins to make your pages rock, they just need javascript to be enabled on their browser, which it is by default. I do not know enough of Silverlight to make a case against it. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hey Josiah, many thanks for the uunet info... I hope the .asp gurus will get back to me on advice forward i.e silverlight or ajax? :-)
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Aki,
Talk to UUNET. A good friend of mine also might have some tips on ASP.NET<http://asp.net/>hosting - he's lurking on the list tooo..
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It's not really an either/or choice between Silverlight and Ajax. You can use them both and build very feature rich websites. Both have their strengths As for hosting my personal preference would be to put by own box at the host and load it with whatever software you need. If you're doing ASP.NET I highly recommend you host your server on Windows Server 2008 on IIS 7. IIS 7 is brilliant because its improved performance and security, it can host PHP very well and you can extend it by writing your own modules. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hey Josiah, many thanks for the uunet info... I hope the .asp gurus will get back to me on advice forward i.e silverlight or ajax? :-)
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Aki,
Talk to UUNET. A good friend of mine also might have some tips on ASP.NET<http://asp.net/>hosting - he's lurking on the list tooo..
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Actually I like the option of hosting on a Virtual Private Server (VPS) solution, available offshore... Many hosts give that now. You can then have it on Windows 2008 with IIS 7 as suggested. I like VPS because it's relatively low cost if youre not quite ready to have your own box, and you can install and modify as you wish. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not really an either/or choice between Silverlight and Ajax. You can use them both and build very feature rich websites. Both have their strengths
As for hosting my personal preference would be to put by own box at the host and load it with whatever software you need. If you're doing ASP.NETI highly recommend you host your server on Windows Server 2008 on IIS 7. IIS 7 is brilliant because its improved performance and security, it can host PHP very well and you can extend it by writing your own modules.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hey Josiah, many thanks for the uunet info... I hope the .asp gurus will get back to me on advice forward i.e silverlight or ajax? :-)
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Aki,
Talk to UUNET. A good friend of mine also might have some tips on ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> hosting - he's lurking on the list tooo..
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Just had a quick read of http://computer.howstuffworks.com/silverlight.htm/printable I turns out that Silverlight 1 uses javascript and Silverlight 2 can use other .Net languages such as C#. They both run on the .Net framework, which means you have @ your hands all the power .Net offers desktop applications. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not really an either/or choice between Silverlight and Ajax. You can use them both and build very feature rich websites. Both have their strengths
As for hosting my personal preference would be to put by own box at the host and load it with whatever software you need. If you're doing ASP.NETI highly recommend you host your server on Windows Server 2008 on IIS 7. IIS 7 is brilliant because its improved performance and security, it can host PHP very well and you can extend it by writing your own modules.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:12 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hey Josiah, many thanks for the uunet info... I hope the .asp gurus will get back to me on advice forward i.e silverlight or ajax? :-)
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Aki,
Talk to UUNET. A good friend of mine also might have some tips on ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> hosting - he's lurking on the list tooo..
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FYI some resources *Silverlight* (Website, about, tutorials, community) http://silverlight.net/ (Book) http://www.amazon.com/Accelerated-Silverlight-Books-Professionals/dp/1430224... *ASP.NET Ajax* (Website, about, tutorials, community) http://www.asp.net/ajax/ (book) http://www.amazon.com/ASP-NET-AJAX-Unleashed-Robert-Foster/dp/0672329735/ref... *ASP.NET + Silverlight* Since silverlight is just code embedded directly in the page, integration is pretty easy. However you can also get books giving you advice and best practices http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Development-Silverlight-ASP-NET-AJAX/dp/1590... BTW the Silverlight you want to be looking at is Silverlight 3. Additionally, Silverlight doesn't quite run on the full .NET framework. The runtime plugin is a trimmed down version of the .NET framework, that's about 4MB On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Just had a quick read of http://computer.howstuffworks.com/silverlight.htm/printable
I turns out that Silverlight 1 uses javascript and Silverlight 2 can use other .Net languages such as C#. They both run on the .Net framework, which means you have @ your hands all the power .Net offers desktop applications.
Thanks to all those who repsonded, Asante sana for the advice. :-) -- "making it happen...." www.projectskenya.info
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:07 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Thanks to all those who repsonded, Asante sana for the advice. :-) -- "making it happen...." www.projectskenya.info
AJAX is an obvious choice for most sites nowadays. JQuery is now supported in VS 2008. http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/11/21/jquery-intellisense-in-vs-... Look into Silverlight for richer media stuff. What does Mworia (African Pixel) think?
And on the hosting front, i urge you to play around with the virtual hosting services offshore before you even set up boxes and start hustling ISP's for quality service. :-) On 10/12/09, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:07 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Thanks to all those who repsonded, Asante sana for the advice. :-) -- "making it happen...." www.projectskenya.info
AJAX is an obvious choice for most sites nowadays. JQuery is now supported in VS 2008.
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/11/21/jquery-intellisense-in-vs-...
Look into Silverlight for richer media stuff.
What does Mworia (African Pixel) think?
Actually havent yet worked with Silverlight, so am not qualified to comment on that... You can do some Rapid Application Dev with ASP.NET and AJAX... Loads of tools and components to make your life easy. As for hosting, you can do it locally with UUNET or Swift... I believe even Wananchi has a windows server.. However, personally, I still lean towards offshore hosting due to greater control and more refined processes... On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Some background : After almost a 5 year break, I can see many things have advanced in the asp world. Some of the successful projects that I created on asp :
- Organization Contacts Database. Front end html including low traffic overhead over slow WAN links. Html database provided add, edit and full search by name, country, city etc. Despite access's 2GB limit, over 7000 contacts were stored into Db. I'm told sharepoint made the DB obsolete 2 year ago but is missed...
- Freelancers expenses and budget reporting system. Front end html used to collect form data from various departments that deal with freelancers. Backend Ms Access which I setup with queries to prompt for freelancer name and month, provided detailed cost analysis of payments due and a gross summary of total budgets spent monthly/annual on such. Am told after 3 years of use, a complete HRM system replaced it...
- Photo archive system. Full searchable, same concept front html with resize thumbnails and fields. Diffcult system as I still needed to master the thumbnails generator as DB size grew over the 2GB limit very quickly.
Okay, moving on : For my future web/data projects, is SilverLight and asp.net the best to go forward with or is Ajax because so much has changed. Things like CSS are now there. And is any kenyan hosting provider able to do asp hosting or should I just use one of the many companies who do it on the net? I'd hate to have to start from scratch on php and mysql, just because of lamps ease.
Adv is welcome. :-)
Rgds.
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