Re: [Skunkworks] Skunkworks Digest, Vol 18, Issue 197
Sheng is too dynamic! the sheng spoken in various places in Nairobi is different and changes every so often not to mention the sheng spoken in Naks or Kisumu. some sheng is actually words in reverse (*kwachua *for example). No sane country can use Pidgin English as a written language for formal communication - why should we use our Pidgin Swahili? any person who is able to speak fluent Swahili should be very proud of it. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:49 AM, <skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
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1. Re: Google.co.ke DEFAULT Language (Steve Obbayi) 2. Re: Google.co.ke DEFAULT Language (Antony Gikabia) 3. Re: website review (Amarjit Labhuram)
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:44:25 +0300 (EAT) From: Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Google.co.ke DEFAULT Language Message-ID: <5184242.01312954768640.JavaMail.SYSTEM@obbayi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Barrack I tend to believe Moses estimates of 90%. There was a project I was doing in many of these rural areas and villages and the reality is, people in the villages dont speak fluent Kiswahili. My Kiswahili totally sucks but I was able to tell that their Kiswahili was also wrong.
Another thing in many of the villages they are most comfortable with their native tongues. I also found out with the younger generations even in the villages they have just as good English skills as kiswahili if not better. Why? They pick it from watching a lot of bootlegged DVDs which have TV series and movies.
But one thing you have got to admit, in Kenya we generally do not speak fluent Swahili. That brings m to another point. Why cant Kenya come up with their own version of Kiswahili? For example look at Australian English vs British or American English. The same goes for portuguese. The Brazilian portugues has many variations from the Portugal portugues and the trend is all over.
Kenya is trying to force itself to get up to speed with the traditional standard Kiswahili yet envirmental factors are pointing in a different direction. Kenya has a chance to invent a unique flavor of Kiswahili and call it her own.
Why wasnt sheng pushed as a constitutionally recognized official language?
Just My thoughts, I dont know much about sheng either.
Steve
----- "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
90 percent of Kenyans? I beg to differ maybe Nairobians, let google be, why is Kiswahili recognised by our constitution as a national language, better still how will the rest of the country close to fifteen million benefit? This is the reason we are talking about Kenyans for Kenyans we need equal opportunities for all , those who have been involved in ICT sensitization activities mashinani appreciate what google is doing. Localization is key to bridging the digital divide.
My two Cassavas :-)
On 8/10/11, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote:
ATT to Google kenya techies, Can you Kindly take google default back to English..This business of figuring out what "Wavuti", "Mpangilio wa zana" , "iliyo kwa kache" MEANS is Driving us NUTS..Or better still take the Default to the local slang/sheng, otherwise 90% of kenyans dont understand Kiswahili Sanifu..
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:53:32 +0300 (EAT) From: "Antony Gikabia" <agikabia@jambo.co.ke> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Google.co.ke DEFAULT Language Message-ID: <0c13c4a1b943f571b20d8b4358b118b5.squirrel@mail.jambo.co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
@moses.its not only in kenya that is happening that way
anyway just use www.google.com/ncr and you should be ok
90 percent of Kenyans? I beg to differ maybe Nairobians, let google be, why is Kiswahili recognised by our constitution as a national language, better still how will the rest of the country close to fifteen million benefit? This is the reason we are talking about Kenyans for Kenyans we need equal opportunities for all , those who have been involved in ICT sensitization activities mashinani appreciate what google is doing. Localization is key to bridging the digital divide.
My two Cassavas :-)
On 8/10/11, moses njuguna <moses.w.n@gmail.com> wrote:
ATT to Google kenya techies, Can you Kindly take google default back to English..This business of figuring out what "Wavuti", "Mpangilio wa zana" , "iliyo kwa kache" MEANS is Driving us NUTS..Or better still take the Default to the local slang/sheng, otherwise 90% of kenyans dont understand Kiswahili Sanifu..
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Message: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:48:50 +0300 From: Amarjit Labhuram <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] website review Message-ID: <CAJxpFmQSzxjTo=NPT_67vu-Vk=avzFy4eJ4N1Yaz6qtCEUMVpw@mail.gmail.com
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I have been a peaceful member of the community and had my fair share of posts that have not caused too much friction if any at all. Josy is a good friend of mine and think he is a talented young man. Just helping him just like i expect we are all doing so in the Kenya for Kenyans initiative.
If i have been laser tagged for destruction then so be it...LOL!!!
Have a great day!
Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram. www.macrotech-portal.com
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
So josy is banned and now you are his point man? Sounds more like a Mafia thing going on up in here. Am sure now admins have set a bulls eye on you
----- "Amarjit Labhuram" <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com> wrote:
Hahahaha...guys It indeed is a friend. Josy is his name ( josyveros@gmail.com) who is a banned or limited member of skunkworks for his bad behaviour of sending out many marketing and OT mails for advertising. Anyway, much thanks for the feedback and do keep them coming.
Have a great day!
Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com
wrote:
@JDSKK'J is it who i want to believe it isn't? or is it what i think
it could be.. maybe it's just the being of the not so want to happen. For example when Gandhi was asked what he thought of western civilization, he said he thought it would be a good idea.
@Julianneanyim, Those day's are long gone. Proof is my tag line - - -
The "This list is being Watched" sign?
On 8/9/11, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote:
Of course..., you must hide behind a friend to avoid being
"lynched".
:-)
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:41 PM, John Doe Smith Kamau KipNg'etich
Jones <
skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
[gasp!!] i just confirmed that the "friend" is actually...
its...
to be continued
On 8/9/11, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote: > Wouldn't it be wierd if say.. his "friend" was ... Him? > > ( hollywood TUM TUM TUMMMM!!!! ) > * > W.* > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Calvin Omari > <calvinebarongo@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Odhiambo Washington >> <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 14:20, Amarjit Labhuram < >>> amarjit..labhuram@gmail.com <amarjit.labhuram@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >>>> A friend of mine would like to know your comments and criticisms on this >>>> site he has done for Dormans. Look forward to your responses. Link is >>>> below: >>>> >>>> http://www.dorman.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> NIIIIICE website, considering that I am not a designer/developer!!! >>> It's one of the best websites I've seen in a long time. >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. >>> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> Nice Website the best use of Virtual mart please give me his email >> (offlist) I need to know how to customize virtua mart the same way he has >> done so >> >> Nice design >> >> Regards >> >> -- >> Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, >> but that we are powerful beyond measure. >> It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us. >> >> Calvin Omari Systems Software Developer >> http://www.facebook.com/barongo >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > get to know more about me. *http://about.me/rahiminkara > * > this list is being *watched.* > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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