
I know its a while since release, Im sure some of you dove in right away to give it a drive test and some are still waiting... On behalf of those of us that are still uncertain or fearful of change, what is the Unity experience like? or is this where we start looking back at debian or possibly another variant like that green offshoot thing? - -- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”* ~ Alex Carey ~ Tel No: 0x2af23696

I had to revert to gnome after 2 days. I found it harder to manouver between active windows and wasted time in the process. -- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki, Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob Address: 42665 00100 Nrb

I switched from Ubuntu to Debian. Don't like Unity's "simpler" UI. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
I had to revert to gnome after 2 days. I found it harder to manouver between active windows and wasted time in the process.
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same case. i switched to gnome after 3 days- besides crashing like 10 times a day, the menu landing page needs lots of work -- -erastus +254733725373 tweet fast and free globally via USSD dial +44 203 355 8505 - by ussdtweet|messaging365 Nairobi Kenya On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Brian Ngure < brian@mystique.boldlygoingnowhere.org> wrote:
I switched from Ubuntu to Debian. Don't like Unity's "simpler" UI.
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
I had to revert to gnome after 2 days. I found it harder to manouver between active windows and wasted time in the process.
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Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob
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I have been on unity for the past 4 months. eventually it has grown on me, but I admit the first few days were quite hectic getting used to. I still prefer it to Gnome 3. Thanks and regards, Ian On 4 August 2011 12:02, Brian Ngure <brian@mystique.boldlygoingnowhere.org>wrote:
I switched from Ubuntu to Debian. Don't like Unity's "simpler" UI.
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
I had to revert to gnome after 2 days. I found it harder to manouver between active windows and wasted time in the process.
-- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki,
Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob
Address: 42665 00100 Nrb
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you still can run gnome on ubuntu 11.04, just specify the UI you want to at login (gnome 2 should be installed by default iirc) On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:43 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I know its a while since release, Im sure some of you dove in right away to give it a drive test and some are still waiting... On behalf of those of us that are still uncertain or fearful of change, what is the Unity experience like? or is this where we start looking back at debian or possibly another variant like that green offshoot thing?
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Christian, I am aware of the Gnome 2 login option. However, I wondered how long it would be there as an option. It could be removed at any time. That is why I chose to move to Debian rather than "wait and see" :) On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Christian Ledermann < christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:
you still can run gnome on ubuntu 11.04, just specify the UI you want to at login (gnome 2 should be installed by default iirc)
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:43 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I know its a while since release, Im sure some of you dove in right away to give it a drive test and some are still waiting... On behalf of those of us that are still uncertain or fearful of change, what is the Unity experience like? or is this where we start looking back at debian or possibly another variant like that green offshoot thing?
-
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
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-- Best Regards,
Christian Ledermann
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<*)))>{
If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left, you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
1) Don’t drive species to extinction
2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Christian,
I am aware of the Gnome 2 login option. However, I wondered how long it would be there as an option.
It could be removed at any time.
I doubt that, anyway if shuttleworth decides to remove it there will be a ppa to install it from
That is why I chose to move to Debian rather than "wait and see" :)
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Christian Ledermann < christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:
you still can run gnome on ubuntu 11.04, just specify the UI you want to at login (gnome 2 should be installed by default iirc)
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:43 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I know its a while since release, Im sure some of you dove in right away to give it a drive test and some are still waiting... On behalf of those of us that are still uncertain or fearful of change, what is the Unity experience like? or is this where we start looking back at debian or possibly another variant like that green offshoot thing?
-
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
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-- Best Regards,
Christian Ledermann
Nairobi - Kenya Mobile : +254 702978914
<*)))>{
If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left, you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
1) Don’t drive species to extinction
2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
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I don't think 11.04 supports Gnome 3. It will always crash. You'll have to wait till 11.10 in order to run Gnome 3 On 4 August 2011 13:03, Christian Ledermann <christian.ledermann@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Christian,
I am aware of the Gnome 2 login option. However, I wondered how long it would be there as an option.
It could be removed at any time.
I doubt that, anyway if shuttleworth decides to remove it there will be a ppa to install it from
That is why I chose to move to Debian rather than "wait and see" :)
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Christian Ledermann < christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:
you still can run gnome on ubuntu 11.04, just specify the UI you want to at login (gnome 2 should be installed by default iirc)
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:43 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
I know its a while since release, Im sure some of you dove in right away to give it a drive test and some are still waiting... On behalf of those of us that are still uncertain or fearful of change, what is the Unity experience like? or is this where we start looking back at debian or possibly another variant like that green offshoot thing?
-
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
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-- Best Regards,
Christian Ledermann
Nairobi - Kenya Mobile : +254 702978914
<*)))>{
If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left, you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
1) Don’t drive species to extinction
2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
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Christian Ledermann
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<*)))>{
If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left, you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
1) Don’t drive species to extinction
2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
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Didn't like it on the desktop. Seems more like it was designed for a tablet like environment. Regards, Mark Mwangi On Aug 4, 2011 2:31 PM, "Simon Mbuthia" <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think 11.04 supports Gnome 3. It will always crash. You'll have to wait till 11.10 in order to run Gnome 3
On 4 August 2011 13:03, Christian Ledermann <christian.ledermann@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Christian,
I am aware of the Gnome 2 login option. However, I wondered how long it would be there as an option.
It could be removed at any time.
I doubt that, anyway if shuttleworth decides to remove it there will be a ppa to install it from
That is why I chose to move to Debian rather than "wait and see" :)
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Christian Ledermann < christian.ledermann@gmail.com> wrote:
you still can run gnome on ubuntu 11.04, just specify the UI you want
to
at login (gnome 2 should be installed by default iirc)
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:43 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com wrote:
I know its a while since release, Im sure some of you dove in right away to give it a drive test and some are still waiting... On behalf of those of us that are still uncertain or fearful of change, what is the Unity experience like? or is this where we start looking back at debian or possibly another variant like that green offshoot thing?
-
-- *“The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy”*
~ Alex Carey ~
Tel No: 0x2af23696
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-- Best Regards,
Christian Ledermann
Nairobi - Kenya Mobile : +254 702978914
<*)))>{
If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left, you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
1) Don’t drive species to extinction
2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
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Christian Ledermann
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<*)))>{
If you save the living environment, the biodiversity that we have left, you will also automatically save the physical environment, too. But If you only save the physical environment, you will ultimately lose both.
1) Don’t drive species to extinction
2) Don’t destroy a habitat that species rely on.
3) Don’t change the climate in ways that will result in the above.
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I was initially excited about Ubuntu 11.04 when it was released and switched to it from Mint 10, after an hour or two I found Unity hard to get accustomed to (navigation to apps, switching themes, desktop right-click which are things I frequently do on Gnome 2) I agree it has a simple interface but I guess am a die hard fan of Gnome 2.x.x Am glad my favorite disto Mint decided to retain Gnome 2.x.x on release 11, which is what I use now. -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ Regards, David Njuki @njukey [Google,Twitter,Yahoo]

Classic Gnome 2 UI Preffered. If you think about it, Canonical has been trying to APE apple's OSX UI, adding some variations. You will find over 9000 similarities between Unity and OSX UI. This kind of F*^%'s up any chance of a PURELY UNIQUE LOOK AND FEEL for Ubuntu Linux. Other linux distros were bright to chose gnome 3 shell, a trully unique linux UI experience like no other The only advantage i see for Unity vs Gnome-Shell is that Unity still supports compiz fusion. However none of the above next generation Gnome UIs is as mature as the classic Gnome 2 UI (convinience)

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:43, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I know its a while since release, Im sure some of you dove in right away to give it a drive test and some are still waiting... On behalf of those of us that are still uncertain or fearful of change, what is the Unity experience like? or is this where we start looking back at debian or possibly another variant like that green offshoot thing?
I run Ubuntu 11.04 on my Lenovo and I must swear that I don't know the difference between Unity and Gnome and KDE - the Desktop is okay for me in all of them. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

who has done 11.04 and Gnome 3 and would like to tell us something about crashing?
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[ Brainiac ]
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Brian Ngure
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Brian Ngure
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Christian Ledermann
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David Njuki
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gisho
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Ian Macharia
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James Nzomo
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Job Muriuki
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Mark Mwangi
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Odhiambo Washington
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Simon Mbuthia