As a contributor for the African Network for Localization, I got stuck on a few Kikuyu words. I came across some words that are really tough. I may need the assistance of anyone who knows Gikuyu properly, and I mean properly. For instance, what is the Kikuyu word for "three days ago"? How do you give AM/PM in Kiuk? If you think you can assist, please get in touch offlist so that we help each other to complete this task. Ithe wa Ciru.
Andu aitu, Uyu mundu ona ti mugikuyu, mutikamuthikirire. Aroria tumaundu tutari kuria turi. Rucini, icookero, irathiro, huaiini...tumaundu tunii. Mwirei ahurire thimu kana anyandikire marua maya ma gmail. Nii ndi mwarimu wa gikuyu. Ithe wa Charlene (Sharin). On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
As a contributor for the African Network for Localization, I got stuck on a few Kikuyu words. I came across some words that are really tough. I may need the assistance of anyone who knows Gikuyu properly, and I mean properly. For instance, what is the Kikuyu word for "three days ago"? How do you give AM/PM in Kiuk?
If you think you can assist, please get in touch offlist so that we help each other to complete this task. Ithe wa Ciru.
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Skunks and Skunkettes, I'm not a Kyuke guru, but I think it would be inappropriate to send replies in this particular conversation **entirely* *in Gikuyu even though that is the main... theme (???). This though,. is my opinion, which is debatable and I stand to be corrected. Me. 2009/5/19 David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com>
Andu aitu,
Uyu mundu ona ti mugikuyu, mutikamuthikirire. Aroria tumaundu tutari kuria turi. Rucini, icookero, irathiro, huaiini...tumaundu tunii. Mwirei ahurire thimu kana anyandikire marua maya ma gmail. Nii ndi mwarimu wa gikuyu.
Ithe wa Charlene (Sharin).
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
As a contributor for the African Network for Localization, I got stuck on a few Kikuyu words. I came across some words that are really tough. I may need the assistance of anyone who knows Gikuyu properly, and I mean properly. For instance, what is the Kikuyu word for "three days ago"? How do you give AM/PM in Kiuk?
If you think you can assist, please get in touch offlist so that we help each other to complete this task. Ithe wa Ciru.
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He said 'contact me offlist' and that's what should be done. Next some other community will want their matter addressed on this forum then we end up looking tribal. Just wait and see! On 19/05/2009, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks and Skunkettes,
I'm not a Kyuke guru, but I think it would be inappropriate to send replies in this particular conversation **entirely* *in Gikuyu even though that is the main... theme (???). This though,. is my opinion, which is debatable and I stand to be corrected.
Me.
2009/5/19 David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com>
Andu aitu,
Uyu mundu ona ti mugikuyu, mutikamuthikirire. Aroria tumaundu tutari kuria turi. Rucini, icookero, irathiro, huaiini...tumaundu tunii. Mwirei ahurire thimu kana anyandikire marua maya ma gmail. Nii ndi mwarimu wa gikuyu.
Ithe wa Charlene (Sharin).
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
As a contributor for the African Network for Localization, I got stuck on a few Kikuyu words. I came across some words that are really tough. I may need the assistance of anyone who knows Gikuyu properly, and I mean properly. For instance, what is the Kikuyu word for "three days ago"? How do you give AM/PM in Kiuk?
If you think you can assist, please get in touch offlist so that we help each other to complete this task. Ithe wa Ciru.
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He said 'contact me offlist' and that's what should be done. Next some other community will want their matter addressed on this forum then we end up looking tribal. Just wait and see! On 19/05/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
He said 'contact me offlist' and that's what should be done. Next some other community will want their matter addressed on this forum then we end up looking tribal. Just wait and see!
On 19/05/2009, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks and Skunkettes,
I'm not a Kyuke guru, but I think it would be inappropriate to send replies in this particular conversation **entirely* *in Gikuyu even though that is the main... theme (???). This though,. is my opinion, which is debatable and I stand to be corrected.
Me.
2009/5/19 David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com>
Andu aitu,
Uyu mundu ona ti mugikuyu, mutikamuthikirire. Aroria tumaundu tutari kuria turi. Rucini, icookero, irathiro, huaiini...tumaundu tunii. Mwirei ahurire thimu kana anyandikire marua maya ma gmail. Nii ndi mwarimu wa gikuyu.
Ithe wa Charlene (Sharin).
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
As a contributor for the African Network for Localization, I got stuck on a few Kikuyu words. I came across some words that are really tough. I may need the assistance of anyone who knows Gikuyu properly, and I mean properly. For instance, what is the Kikuyu word for "three days ago"? How do you give AM/PM in Kiuk?
If you think you can assist, please get in touch offlist so that we help each other to complete this task. Ithe wa Ciru.
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-- שִׁמְעוֹן
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
Right there Mburu. There are actually locales for 100 African languages being developed. Quite a big number of them are Kenyan. So am sure there are guys here working on the Kogelo language, and many others. Mugo's post was actually very funny. But it may look insulting to others on the list who are are not from the mountain. I am sure we will have a lively discussion once we start that discussion elsewhere. Just send me a mail and we will carry on with it. All, please keep in mind that the development of African Locales is a very very important initiative for the sake of future localization projects. Ikua On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
He said 'contact me offlist' and that's what should be done. Next some other community will want their matter addressed on this forum then we end up looking tribal. Just wait and see!
On 19/05/2009, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks and Skunkettes,
I'm not a Kyuke guru, but I think it would be inappropriate to send replies in this particular conversation **entirely* *in Gikuyu even though that is the main... theme (???). This though,. is my opinion, which is debatable and I stand to be corrected.
Me.
2009/5/19 David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com>
Andu aitu,
Uyu mundu ona ti mugikuyu, mutikamuthikirire. Aroria tumaundu tutari kuria turi. Rucini, icookero, irathiro, huaiini...tumaundu tunii. Mwirei ahurire thimu kana anyandikire marua maya ma gmail. Nii ndi mwarimu wa gikuyu.
Ithe wa Charlene (Sharin).
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
As a contributor for the African Network for Localization, I got stuck on a few Kikuyu words. I came across some words that are really tough. I may need the assistance of anyone who knows Gikuyu properly, and I mean properly. For instance, what is the Kikuyu word for "three days ago"? How do you give AM/PM in Kiuk?
If you think you can assist, please get in touch offlist so that we help each other to complete this task. Ithe wa Ciru.
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-- שִׁמְעוֹן
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal? Guyz we're past that, if you don't understand wassup, just ignore. If symptoms persist, mark as sparm:D Sent from Gmail for mobile On 5/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
He said 'contact me offlist' and that's what should be done. Next some other community will want their matter addressed on this forum then we end up looking tribal. Just wait and see!
On 19/05/2009, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks and Skunkettes,
I'm not a Kyuke guru, but I think it would be inappropriate to send replies in this particular conversation **entirely* *in Gikuyu even though that is the main... theme (???). This though,. is my opinion, which is debatable and I stand to be corrected.
Me.
2009/5/19 David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com>
Andu aitu,
Uyu mundu ona ti mugikuyu, mutikamuthikirire. Aroria tumaundu tutari kuria turi. Rucini, icookero, irathiro, huaiini...tumaundu tunii. Mwirei ahurire thimu kana anyandikire marua maya ma gmail. Nii ndi mwarimu wa gikuyu.
Ithe wa Charlene (Sharin).
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
As a contributor for the African Network for Localization, I got stuck on a few Kikuyu words. I came across some words that are really tough. I may need the assistance of anyone who knows Gikuyu properly, and I mean properly. For instance, what is the Kikuyu word for "three days ago"? How do you give AM/PM in Kiuk?
If you think you can assist, please get in touch offlist so that we help each other to complete this task. Ithe wa Ciru.
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-- שִׁמְעוֹן
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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The reason I took that stand was because someone pointed out the negativity of bringing the issue on skunkworks, though I FULLY SUPPORT MY ATI RIRI ONLINE. Do we have an online locale in Kenya that is already running or still being developed? On 19/05/2009, Kariuki Martin <martinkariuki7@gmail.com> wrote:
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal? Guyz we're past that, if you don't understand wassup, just ignore. If symptoms persist, mark as sparm:D
Sent from Gmail for mobile
On 5/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
He said 'contact me offlist' and that's what should be done. Next some other community will want their matter addressed on this forum then we end up looking tribal. Just wait and see!
On 19/05/2009, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks and Skunkettes,
I'm not a Kyuke guru, but I think it would be inappropriate to send replies in this particular conversation **entirely* *in Gikuyu even though that is the main... theme (???). This though,. is my opinion, which is debatable and I stand to be corrected.
Me.
2009/5/19 David Mugo <raidarmax@gmail.com>
Andu aitu,
Uyu mundu ona ti mugikuyu, mutikamuthikirire. Aroria tumaundu tutari kuria turi. Rucini, icookero, irathiro, huaiini...tumaundu tunii. Mwirei ahurire thimu kana anyandikire marua maya ma gmail. Nii ndi mwarimu wa gikuyu.
Ithe wa Charlene (Sharin).
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
As a contributor for the African Network for Localization, I got stuck on a few Kikuyu words. I came across some words that are really tough. I may need the assistance of anyone who knows Gikuyu properly, and I mean properly. For instance, what is the Kikuyu word for "three days ago"? How do you give AM/PM in Kiuk?
If you think you can assist, please get in touch offlist so that we help each other to complete this task. Ithe wa Ciru.
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-- שִׁמְעוֹן
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Kariuki Martin <martinkariuki7@gmail.com> wrote:
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal?
I think the moment a people lose proud in who they are, they are lost. For own interests, politicians poisoned our positive cultural affiliations. By creating and instilling new fear culture "they are out to finish us." It fragmented "Kenyan" and let's face it, it gets worse if 'concealed' MJ, whom I thought was South African, even publishes that he's an American. "Mr. Joseph is a U.S. citizen and obtained a B. Sc. (cum laude) in Electrical Engineering from the University of Cape Town.."<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=433#c1363> Remember prior to infamous "PEV" I used to call a neighbour "wewe jaluo" and he'd respond "nini okuyu" because we were defined by <http://africamatters.blogspot.com/2008/01/tribalism-in-kenya.html> Heck, we have a rich and diverse cultural heritage :-) And if not a word is meant to insult anyone, then as far as I am concerned its ok to express it in whatever language. We should stop pretending, cease speaking in hush tones about it in public only to retreat to the real dangerous scheming tribal cocoons... else follow politicians be doomed :-(
Speaking of local languages, am yet to find out how we put that "~" on top of an "i" (replacing the dot) with the current keyboard layouts. anybody know? Secondly, some words in my mother tongue (Kamba) spelt the same way, mean entirely different things when pronounced with different intonations. I wonder how this situation is handled by locale translators? Am first to propose a Kao keyboard layout ! On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Kariuki Martin <martinkariuki7@gmail.com> wrote:
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal?
I think the moment a people lose proud in who they are, they are lost. For own interests, politicians poisoned our positive cultural affiliations. By creating and instilling new fear culture "they are out to finish us." It fragmented "Kenyan" and let's face it, it gets worse if 'concealed'
MJ, whom I thought was South African, even publishes that he's an American.
"Mr. Joseph is a U.S. citizen and obtained a B. Sc. (cum laude) in Electrical Engineering from the University of Cape Town.."<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=433#c1363>
Remember prior to infamous "PEV" I used to call a neighbour "wewe jaluo" and he'd respond "nini okuyu" because we were defined by <http://africamatters.blogspot.com/2008/01/tribalism-in-kenya.html>
Heck, we have a rich and diverse cultural heritage :-) And if not a word is meant to insult anyone, then as far as I am concerned its ok to express it in whatever language. We should stop pretending, cease speaking in hush tones about it in public only to retreat to the real dangerous scheming tribal cocoons... else follow politicians be doomed :-( _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- Ndungi Kyalo
Sometime ago, I raised that issue of ~ placed on top of an I or U in Kikuyu at one of KENIC public foras and I was told our vernaculars follow the Arabic or roman alphabet unlike Chinese hieroglyphics {Cuneiform?} which has some special characters. The local languages are under threat, in this era of globalized everything! On 20/05/2009, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> wrote:
Speaking of local languages, am yet to find out how we put that "~" on top of an "i" (replacing the dot) with the current keyboard layouts. anybody know?
Secondly, some words in my mother tongue (Kamba) spelt the same way, mean entirely different things when pronounced with different intonations. I wonder how this situation is handled by locale translators? Am first to propose a Kao keyboard layout !
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Kariuki Martin <martinkariuki7@gmail.com> wrote:
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal?
I think the moment a people lose proud in who they are, they are lost. For own interests, politicians poisoned our positive cultural affiliations. By creating and instilling new fear culture "they are out to finish us." It fragmented "Kenyan" and let's face it, it gets worse if 'concealed'
MJ, whom I thought was South African, even publishes that he's an American.
"Mr. Joseph is a U.S. citizen and obtained a B. Sc. (cum laude) in Electrical Engineering from the University of Cape Town.."<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=433#c1363>
Remember prior to infamous "PEV" I used to call a neighbour "wewe jaluo" and he'd respond "nini okuyu" because we were defined by <http://africamatters.blogspot.com/2008/01/tribalism-in-kenya.html>
Heck, we have a rich and diverse cultural heritage :-) And if not a word is meant to insult anyone, then as far as I am concerned its ok to express it in whatever language. We should stop pretending, cease speaking in hush tones about it in public only to retreat to the real dangerous scheming tribal cocoons... else follow politicians be doomed :-( _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Hi Ndungi, Use character mapper. Type *charmap *in the run command box (both windows and Linux have it) . For Linux, at least I know Knoppix 5 has it, or else you could sudo apt-get it. Me. 2009/5/20 Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com>
Speaking of local languages, am yet to find out how we put that "~" on top of an "i" (replacing the dot) with the current keyboard layouts. anybody know?
Secondly, some words in my mother tongue (Kamba) spelt the same way, mean entirely different things when pronounced with different intonations. I wonder how this situation is handled by locale translators? Am first to propose a Kao keyboard layout !
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Kariuki Martin <martinkariuki7@gmail.com> wrote:
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal?
I think the moment a people lose proud in who they are, they are lost. For own interests, politicians poisoned our positive cultural affiliations. By creating and instilling new fear culture "they are out to finish us." It fragmented "Kenyan" and let's face it, it gets worse if 'concealed'
MJ, whom I thought was South African, even publishes that he's an American.
"Mr. Joseph is a U.S. citizen and obtained a B. Sc. (cum laude) in Electrical Engineering from the University of Cape Town.."<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=433#c1363>
Remember prior to infamous "PEV" I used to call a neighbour "wewe jaluo" and he'd respond "nini okuyu" because we were defined by <http://africamatters.blogspot.com/2008/01/tribalism-in-kenya.html>
Heck, we have a rich and diverse cultural heritage :-) And if not a word is meant to insult anyone, then as far as I am concerned its ok to express it in whatever language. We should stop pretending, cease speaking in hush tones about it in public only to retreat to the real dangerous scheming tribal cocoons... else follow politicians be doomed :-( _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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In fact I was about to raise this issue. I have done it in the past. Some time way back I was designing a funeral programme in kikuyu, and I managed to use those characters. There is a key combination (on any keyboard) that produces special characters depending on particular number combinations. I had a listing of them but am not sure I will get it now. I will look and let you know. But in case anybody toboas that please share with us. Something like you shift (or alt) and hit 100 or something. Ikua On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Ndungi,
Use character mapper. Type *charmap *in the run command box (both windows and Linux have it) . For Linux, at least I know Knoppix 5 has it, or else you could sudo apt-get it.
Me.
2009/5/20 Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com>
Speaking of local languages, am yet to find out how we put that "~" on top
of an "i" (replacing the dot) with the current keyboard layouts. anybody know?
Secondly, some words in my mother tongue (Kamba) spelt the same way, mean entirely different things when pronounced with different intonations. I wonder how this situation is handled by locale translators? Am first to propose a Kao keyboard layout !
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Kariuki Martin <martinkariuki7@gmail.com> wrote:
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal?
I think the moment a people lose proud in who they are, they are lost. For own interests, politicians poisoned our positive cultural affiliations. By creating and instilling new fear culture "they are out to finish us." It fragmented "Kenyan" and let's face it, it gets worse if 'concealed'
MJ, whom I thought was South African, even publishes that he's an American.
"Mr. Joseph is a U.S. citizen and obtained a B. Sc. (cum laude) in Electrical Engineering from the University of Cape Town.."<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=433#c1363>
Remember prior to infamous "PEV" I used to call a neighbour "wewe jaluo" and he'd respond "nini okuyu" because we were defined by <http://africamatters.blogspot.com/2008/01/tribalism-in-kenya.html>
Heck, we have a rich and diverse cultural heritage :-) And if not a word is meant to insult anyone, then as far as I am concerned its ok to express it in whatever language. We should stop pretending, cease speaking in hush tones about it in public only to retreat to the real dangerous scheming tribal cocoons... else follow politicians be doomed :-( _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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simply click on the character you want in the character map tool found on your OS and in the status bar it will show you the keyboard combination to use. beware that some characters are not available if you are typing a document in ascii Steve Obbayi, _____ From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Evans Ikua Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:26 PM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] African Locales - Kikuyu gurus In fact I was about to raise this issue. I have done it in the past. Some time way back I was designing a funeral programme in kikuyu, and I managed to use those characters. There is a key combination (on any keyboard) that produces special characters depending on particular number combinations. I had a listing of them but am not sure I will get it now. I will look and let you know. But in case anybody toboas that please share with us. Something like you shift (or alt) and hit 100 or something. Ikua On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Ndungi, Use character mapper. Type charmap in the run command box (both windows and Linux have it) . For Linux, at least I know Knoppix 5 has it, or else you could sudo apt-get it. Me. 2009/5/20 Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com> Speaking of local languages, am yet to find out how we put that "~" on top of an "i" (replacing the dot) with the current keyboard layouts. anybody know? Secondly, some words in my mother tongue (Kamba) spelt the same way, mean entirely different things when pronounced with different intonations. I wonder how this situation is handled by locale translators? Am first to propose a Kao keyboard layout ! On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Kariuki Martin <martinkariuki7@gmail.com> wrote:
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal?
I think the moment a people lose proud in who they are, they are lost. For own interests, politicians poisoned our positive cultural affiliations. By creating and instilling new fear culture "they are out to finish us." It fragmented "Kenyan" and let's face it, it gets worse if 'concealed' MJ, whom I thought was South African, even publishes that he's an American. "Mr. Joseph is a U.S. citizen and obtained a B. Sc. (cum laude) in Electrical Engineering from the University of Cape Town.."<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=433#c1363> Remember prior to infamous "PEV" I used to call a neighbour "wewe jaluo" and he'd respond "nini okuyu" because we were defined by <http://africamatters.blogspot.com/2008/01/tribalism-in-kenya.html> Heck, we have a rich and diverse cultural heritage :-) And if not a word is meant to insult anyone, then as far as I am concerned its ok to express it in whatever language. We should stop pretending, cease speaking in hush tones about it in public only to retreat to the real dangerous scheming tribal cocoons... else follow politicians be doomed :-( _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Ndungi Kyalo _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- שִׁמְעוֹן _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Try Alt + 361 in MS word for ũ alt + 297 for ĩ 2009/5/20 Evans Ikua <ikua.evans@gmail.com>
In fact I was about to raise this issue. I have done it in the past. Some time way back I was designing a funeral programme in kikuyu, and I managed to use those characters. There is a key combination (on any keyboard) that produces special characters depending on particular number combinations. I had a listing of them but am not sure I will get it now. I will look and let you know. But in case anybody toboas that please share with us.
Something like you shift (or alt) and hit 100 or something.
Ikua
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Ndungi,
Use character mapper. Type *charmap *in the run command box (both windows and Linux have it) . For Linux, at least I know Knoppix 5 has it, or else you could sudo apt-get it.
Me.
2009/5/20 Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com>
Speaking of local languages, am yet to find out how we put that "~" on top
of an "i" (replacing the dot) with the current keyboard layouts. anybody know?
Secondly, some words in my mother tongue (Kamba) spelt the same way, mean entirely different things when pronounced with different intonations. I wonder how this situation is handled by locale translators? Am first to propose a Kao keyboard layout !
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Kariuki Martin <martinkariuki7@gmail.com> wrote:
Apana bwana! Who says we cannot be joyful in our cultural ways for fear of being tribal?
I think the moment a people lose proud in who they are, they are lost. For own interests, politicians poisoned our positive cultural affiliations. By creating and instilling new fear culture "they are out to finish us." It fragmented "Kenyan" and let's face it, it gets worse if 'concealed'
MJ, whom I thought was South African, even publishes that he's an American.
"Mr. Joseph is a U.S. citizen and obtained a B. Sc. (cum laude) in Electrical Engineering from the University of Cape Town.."<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=433#c1363>
Remember prior to infamous "PEV" I used to call a neighbour "wewe jaluo" and he'd respond "nini okuyu" because we were defined by <http://africamatters.blogspot.com/2008/01/tribalism-in-kenya.html>
Heck, we have a rich and diverse cultural heritage :-) And if not a word is meant to insult anyone, then as far as I am concerned its ok to express it in whatever language. We should stop pretending, cease speaking in hush tones about it in public only to retreat to the real dangerous scheming tribal cocoons... else follow politicians be doomed :-( _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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David Mugo -
Evans Ikua -
Gakuru Alex -
Kariuki Martin -
Ndungi Kyalo -
Simon Mbuthia -
Solomon Mburu -
Steve Obbayi