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do you know if this site was done by symphony?
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That is domain information only. It has nothing to do with the site or hosting. On 07/30/2012 11:21 AM, geoffrey gitagia wrote:
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do you know if this site was done by symphony?
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Ha.... the same felas who wanted to test hackers ... they can manage a simple application for voter registration clerk traffic... On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:21 AM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com>wrote:
do you know if this site was done by symphony?
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Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony! On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
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A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo? On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
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Martin, How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo?
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Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
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Once again , age old discussions , people never take IT seriously enough and most who do in management will place it as item in the budget , only to hit the ground and realise that no one was consulted and the poor IT department is short manned , not prepared and also not well financed to deal with delivery of the project , surprising enough this happens even in IT firms . On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Martin,
How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo?
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Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
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stop blaming tools and technology for inefficiencies. Poor design is just that. If you cant secure your MySQL you think those guys will handle oracle* (or whatever else) ? if they cant sort out joomla you can't really expect that same person to whip up a nice UI +DB on rails or whatever. I am with Wash on this one. a mere DB connection issue is an issue especially for a site like the IEBC. if this were election time i can see/imagine a politician claiming sabotage, that could lead to nasty incidents. it would put a whole process in jeopardy. We need to be clear. This is our money used to fund a very important public function. It goes beyond the technology and we have to be very vigilant. gitau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Martin,
How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo?
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
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By now, someone from the IEBC should have fired someone and tendered afresh for the hosting - probably using some Russian folks! :-) On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
stop blaming tools and technology for inefficiencies. Poor design is just that. If you cant secure your MySQL you think those guys will handle oracle* (or whatever else) ? if they cant sort out joomla you can't really expect that same person to whip up a nice UI +DB on rails or whatever.
I am with Wash on this one. a mere DB connection issue is an issue especially for a site like the IEBC. if this were election time i can see/imagine a politician claiming sabotage, that could lead to nasty incidents. it would put a whole process in jeopardy.
We need to be clear. This is our money used to fund a very important public function. It goes beyond the technology and we have to be very vigilant.
gitau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Martin,
How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo?
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
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i was actually looking into the job posted for this function... guess the previous guy walked out with the site heheheh On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
By now, someone from the IEBC should have fired someone and tendered afresh for the hosting - probably using some Russian folks! :-)
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
stop blaming tools and technology for inefficiencies. Poor design is just that. If you cant secure your MySQL you think those guys will handle oracle* (or whatever else) ? if they cant sort out joomla you can't really expect that same person to whip up a nice UI +DB on rails or whatever.
I am with Wash on this one. a mere DB connection issue is an issue especially for a site like the IEBC. if this were election time i can see/imagine a politician claiming sabotage, that could lead to nasty incidents. it would put a whole process in jeopardy.
We need to be clear. This is our money used to fund a very important public function. It goes beyond the technology and we have to be very vigilant.
gitau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com
wrote:
Martin,
How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo?
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
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Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:07 PM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
i was actually looking into the job posted for this function... guess the previous guy walked out with the site heheheh
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
By now, someone from the IEBC should have fired someone and tendered afresh for the hosting - probably using some Russian folks! :-)
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
stop blaming tools and technology for inefficiencies. Poor design is just that. If you cant secure your MySQL you think those guys will handle oracle* (or whatever else) ? if they cant sort out joomla you can't really expect that same person to whip up a nice UI +DB on rails or whatever.
I am with Wash on this one. a mere DB connection issue is an issue especially for a site like the IEBC. if this were election time i can see/imagine a politician claiming sabotage, that could lead to nasty incidents. it would put a whole process in jeopardy.
We need to be clear. This is our money used to fund a very important public function. It goes beyond the technology and we have to be very vigilant.
gitau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin,
How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo?
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com
wrote:
Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
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it looks funny now. You just wait till election results get posted and that error occurs then a presidential aspirant claims it is 'rigging'. while it wont have a basis, it has huge credibility eroding potential. nothing to do with the next election should be taken lightly. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Victor Yegon <viktayeg@gmail.com> wrote:
Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:07 PM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
i was actually looking into the job posted for this function... guess the previous guy walked out with the site heheheh
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wrote:
By now, someone from the IEBC should have fired someone and tendered afresh for the hosting - probably using some Russian folks! :-)
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
stop blaming tools and technology for inefficiencies. Poor design is just that. If you cant secure your MySQL you think those guys will handle oracle* (or whatever else) ? if they cant sort out joomla you can't really expect that same person to whip up a nice UI +DB on rails or whatever.
I am with Wash on this one. a mere DB connection issue is an issue especially for a site like the IEBC. if this were election time i can see/imagine a politician claiming sabotage, that could lead to nasty incidents. it would put a whole process in jeopardy.
We need to be clear. This is our money used to fund a very important public function. It goes beyond the technology and we have to be very vigilant.
gitau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin,
How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo?
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi < peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers > opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony! > > On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote: > > Domain Information > > Query: iebc.or.ke > > Status: Active > > Created: 29 Sep 2010 > > Modified: 24 Jul 2012 > > Expires: 29 Sep 2012 > > Name Servers: > > ns1.safaricombusiness.co.ke > > ns2.safaricombusiness.co.ke > > ns3.safaricombusiness.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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these plonkers are still down... am starting to believe they dont care no more ..... On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
it looks funny now. You just wait till election results get posted and that error occurs then a presidential aspirant claims it is 'rigging'. while it wont have a basis, it has huge credibility eroding potential. nothing to do with the next election should be taken lightly.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Victor Yegon <viktayeg@gmail.com> wrote:
Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:07 PM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
i was actually looking into the job posted for this function... guess the previous guy walked out with the site heheheh
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
By now, someone from the IEBC should have fired someone and tendered afresh for the hosting - probably using some Russian folks! :-)
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
stop blaming tools and technology for inefficiencies. Poor design is just that. If you cant secure your MySQL you think those guys will handle oracle* (or whatever else) ? if they cant sort out joomla you can't really expect that same person to whip up a nice UI +DB on rails or whatever.
I am with Wash on this one. a mere DB connection issue is an issue especially for a site like the IEBC. if this were election time i can see/imagine a politician claiming sabotage, that could lead to nasty incidents. it would put a whole process in jeopardy.
We need to be clear. This is our money used to fund a very important public function. It goes beyond the technology and we have to be very vigilant.
gitau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Martin,
How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com > wrote:
> A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I > miss a memo? > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi < > peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers >> opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony! >> >> On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Domain Information >> > Query: iebc.or.ke >> > Status: Active >> > Created: 29 Sep 2010 >> > Modified: 24 Jul 2012 >> > Expires: 29 Sep 2012 >> > Name Servers: >> > ns1.safaricombusiness.co.ke >> > ns2.safaricombusiness.co.ke >> > ns3.safaricombusiness.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Martin Gicheru|Business Development|Techweez Solutions > > Email ID: martin@techweez.com | Tel:254721906171 | Website: > http://www.techweez.com | > > Skype ID: martingicheru | Twitter ID:martingicheru | Gtalk: > martin@techweez.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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for those who didnt know they are working odd their FB page .. https://www.facebook.com/IIECpage Lord have mercy ... imagine during election we are login on to FB to see who is winning aiiii On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:45 AM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
these plonkers are still down... am starting to believe they dont care no more .....
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
it looks funny now. You just wait till election results get posted and that error occurs then a presidential aspirant claims it is 'rigging'. while it wont have a basis, it has huge credibility eroding potential. nothing to do with the next election should be taken lightly.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Victor Yegon <viktayeg@gmail.com>wrote:
Database Error: Unable to connect to the database:Could not connect to MySQL
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:07 PM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
i was actually looking into the job posted for this function... guess the previous guy walked out with the site heheheh
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
By now, someone from the IEBC should have fired someone and tendered afresh for the hosting - probably using some Russian folks! :-)
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
stop blaming tools and technology for inefficiencies. Poor design is just that. If you cant secure your MySQL you think those guys will handle oracle* (or whatever else) ? if they cant sort out joomla you can't really expect that same person to whip up a nice UI +DB on rails or whatever.
I am with Wash on this one. a mere DB connection issue is an issue especially for a site like the IEBC. if this were election time i can see/imagine a politician claiming sabotage, that could lead to nasty incidents. it would put a whole process in jeopardy.
We need to be clear. This is our money used to fund a very important public function. It goes beyond the technology and we have to be very vigilant.
gitau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin, > > How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were > dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is > comprised of all the content+DB. > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru < > martin@techweez.com> wrote: > >> A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I >> miss a memo? >> >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi < >> peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers >>> opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony! >>> >>> On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Domain Information >>> > Query: iebc.or.ke >>> > Status: Active >>> > Created: 29 Sep 2010 >>> > Modified: 24 Jul 2012 >>> > Expires: 29 Sep 2012 >>> > Name Servers: >>> > ns1.safaricombusiness.co.ke >>> > ns2.safaricombusiness.co.ke >>> > ns3.safaricombusiness.co.ke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Martin Gicheru|Business Development|Techweez Solutions >> >> Email ID: martin@techweez.com | Tel:254721906171 | Website: >> http://www.techweez.com | >> >> Skype ID: martingicheru | Twitter ID:martingicheru | Gtalk: >> martin@techweez.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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I just picked this from their FB, seriously they need help, its been almost two weeks now and they have not figured out what to do, I hope they don't take their web presence for granted like they do take us - their employers! * * *" The IEBC website, which has been slow or unavailable, will be up and running in a few hours. We apologize to those applying for jobs online. Our systems were overwhelmed by the more than 3,000 applicants per hour."* ~fish On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:49 AM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
for those who didnt know they are working odd their FB page .. https://www.facebook.com/IIECpage
Lord have mercy ... imagine during election we are login on to FB to see who is winning aiiii
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:45 AM, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com>wrote:
these plonkers are still down... am starting to believe they dont care no more .....

BTW, At 3,000 job seekers per hour, how many listed by close of business? I hope not all the 42 million Kenyans I hear about. This website was probably done by an amateur! ~fish On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
I just picked this from their FB, seriously they need help, its been almost two weeks now and they have not figured out what to do, I hope they don't take their web presence for granted like they do take us - their employers! * * *" The IEBC website, which has been slow or unavailable, will be up and running in a few hours. We apologize to those applying for jobs online. Our systems were overwhelmed by the more than 3,000 applicants per hour."*
~fish

BTW on the FB page is a drop box folder for those short listed for the said jobs ... how hard was it to implement and emailing system then? On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
BTW,
At 3,000 job seekers per hour, how many listed by close of business? I hope not all the 42 million Kenyans I hear about. This website was probably done by an amateur!
~fish
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
I just picked this from their FB, seriously they need help, its been almost two weeks now and they have not figured out what to do, I hope they don't take their web presence for granted like they do take us - their employers! * * *" The IEBC website, which has been slow or unavailable, will be up and running in a few hours. We apologize to those applying for jobs online. Our systems were overwhelmed by the more than 3,000 applicants per hour."*
~fish
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Don't get it. 3,000 applications per hour is not a big deal. You don't need a high end server to manage that. Must be a problem with the website design. If the server can only server X requests concurrently, just deny access to the X+1 until you have X-1 (Ref Queueing theory) Regards Shad ________________________________ From: geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] IEBC Website not working BTW on the FB page is a drop box folder for those short listed for the said jobs ... how hard was it to implement and emailing system then? On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote: BTW,
At 3,000 job seekers per hour, how many listed by close of business? I hope not all the 42 million Kenyans I hear about. This website was probably done by an amateur!
~fish
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
I just picked this from their FB, seriously they need help, its been almost two weeks now and they have not figured out what to do, I hope they don't take their web presence for granted like they do take us - their employers!
" The IEBC website, which has been slow or unavailable, will be up and running in a few hours. We apologize to those applying for jobs online. Our systems were overwhelmed by the more than 3,000 applicants per hour."
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This site needs to be scaled up. 3k is nothing considering what they'll be serving before during and immediately after the elections. The days of just throwing a cms together and assuming you have a site are gone. Someone needs to plan the infrastructure, the content, its efficient delivery.... Sent from my iPad On 2 Aug 2012, at 13:00, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
BTW,
At 3,000 job seekers per hour, how many listed by close of business? I hope not all the 42 million Kenyans I hear about. This website was probably done by an amateur!
~fish
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote: I just picked this from their FB, seriously they need help, its been almost two weeks now and they have not figured out what to do, I hope they don't take their web presence for granted like they do take us - their employers!
" The IEBC website, which has been slow or unavailable, will be up and running in a few hours. We apologize to those applying for jobs online. Our systems were overwhelmed by the more than 3,000 applicants per hour."
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Probably it has 3000 users each making 1000 resource requests .....

What normally is the role if any of KICTBoard / Directorate of E-government given we are talking of govt parastatals here? Do they play any oversight / Quality assurance roles or its every gover dept to roll out their joomla sites and other ICT infrastructures as they please? On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
stop blaming tools and technology for inefficiencies. Poor design is just that. If you cant secure your MySQL you think those guys will handle oracle* (or whatever else) ? if they cant sort out joomla you can't really expect that same person to whip up a nice UI +DB on rails or whatever.
I am with Wash on this one. a mere DB connection issue is an issue especially for a site like the IEBC. if this were election time i can see/imagine a politician claiming sabotage, that could lead to nasty incidents. it would put a whole process in jeopardy.
We need to be clear. This is our money used to fund a very important public function. It goes beyond the technology and we have to be very vigilant.
gitau On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Martin,
How about if they decided to take down the DB? I mean those who were dared to test the site. That still leads to insecurity. The site is comprised of all the content+DB.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
A mere database connection issue and the site is insecure? Did I miss a memo?
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
Domain Information Query: iebc.or.ke Status: Active Created: 29 Sep 2010 Modified: 24 Jul 2012 Expires: 29 Sep 2012 Name Servers: ns1.safaricombusiness.co.ke ns2.safaricombusiness.co.ke ns3.safaricombusiness.co.ke
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It's a very poor replica of KNEC fiasco during Examination results releases - that the site can be down even when there is no significant traffic to the website is worse than real. Maybe some blackhats decided to show cause why they exist and IEBC should not dare them. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com>wrote:
Ghosh! There lies the evidence - mySQL! Didn't I read in the papers opensource is insecure? This ochestra! Oh, symphony!
On 7/30/12, geoffrey gitagia <ggitagia@gmail.com> wrote:
Domain Information Query: iebc.or.ke Status: Active Created: 29 Sep 2010 Modified: 24 Jul 2012 Expires: 29 Sep 2012 Name Servers: ns1.safaricombusiness.co.ke ns2.safaricombusiness.co.ke ns3.safaricombusiness.co.ke
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participants (12)
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Alex Kamiru
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Andy G
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Antony Mwai
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Dennis Kioko
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geoffrey gitagia
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John Gitau
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Joseph Maina
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Martin Gicheru
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Odhiambo Washington
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Peter Osotsi
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Shadrack Mwaniki
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Victor Yegon