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I don't think I will be able to handle another name change for Kencell/Celtel/Zain/x. And I think they should finally sell to someone who know how to run mobile networks and make money while doing it. I will not mind an Africa wide Safcom or someother company network. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
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is there any end to this? On 09/06/2009, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think I will be able to handle another name change for Kencell/Celtel/Zain/x.
And I think they should finally sell to someone who know how to run mobile networks and make money while doing it. I will not mind an Africa wide Safcom or someother company network.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Here we go again......so its going to be a dual french assault on safcom - the effects of orange r jus starting to be felt. Lets wait and see....... On 6/9/09, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
is there any end to this?
On 09/06/2009, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think I will be able to handle another name change for Kencell/Celtel/Zain/x.
And I think they should finally sell to someone who know how to run mobile networks and make money while doing it. I will not mind an Africa wide Safcom or someother company network.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/37906.php?source=rss <http://www.cellular-news.com/story/37906.php?source=rss> Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
Douleurs plus plus! I hope the French can rename it back to Kencell anyway. The name changes have been so annoying. This frequent change of hands smells of instability, some greed or is it just business as usual? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets! On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Odhiambo ワシントン wrote:
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/37906.php?source=rss
Douleurs plus plus!
I hope the French can rename it back to Kencell anyway. The name changes have been so annoying.
This frequent change of hands smells of instability, some greed or is it just business as usual?
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange? -- Δαβίδ Josh Billings<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
This is highly welcomed- there's definitely a systemic issue in Zain/Celtel/Kencell (what I would call a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot mentality). They need a complete overhaul of it's strategic and execution component. This the only GSM company I know of which instead of increasing it's subscriber numbers and making profits in a highly virgin and lucrative market is doing the reverse. Regards, MUTUA, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: David Njuki To: Skunkworks forum Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain selling ? 2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com> What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets! What if its Orange? -- Δαβίδ Josh Billings - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level?? On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange?
-- Δαβίδ Josh Billings<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level?? On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange?
-- Δαβίδ Josh Billings<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
-- People should know when they are conquered.
Those who vukad to kencell/celtel/zain watavuka wapi? 2009/6/9 nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange?
-- Δαβίδ Josh Billings<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html
- "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
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Dear Listers, If they change names once again as Washington predicted some months ago, then let them be assured they will just have to close their business in Mobile Telephony and maybe focus on Customer care, for that is what Zain can score a greater margin that other telcos. On a serious note, isn't there a law which prohibits a multinational or a national company from changing names before a certain period comes to an end, say after 30 or 45 years? Where is the KCA in all these? Or the Internation law of any sort here? Maybe a few African know there rights while the Majority opt to shy off the rights- talk! [?] And do you know who is grinning over this? The most conspicuous problem with Zain is probably the fear of being an entrepreneur. In my High school, I was informed that an entrepreneur is a risk taker, an investor and a business owner. The biggest entrepreneur in Kenya, as in the whole world is the government, which takes great risks to provide social services to the people. For Zain, the fear of strategically putting on blinders and focussing on reaching the target, is what aids in poor performance in the local industry. For instance, while Safaricom is thriving Zain is just as quiet as still waters ( and I don't know whether they are running deep). If you watch TV or listen to Radio, how many times do Zain adverts run in a single day as opposed to Safaricom's? This is an indication that the local environment is not any better foe Zain. But failing to diversify is failure itself. I hope this anticipated change of name, is a belated April Fools day joke! -- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 *Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!* AND *It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! *
people should be taught about this company in business school! On 09/06/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
If they change names once again as Washington predicted some months ago, then let them be assured they will just have to close their business in Mobile Telephony and maybe focus on Customer care, for that is what Zain can score a greater margin that other telcos.
On a serious note, isn't there a law which prohibits a multinational or a national company from changing names before a certain period comes to an end, say after 30 or 45 years? Where is the KCA in all these? Or the Internation law of any sort here? Maybe a few African know there rights while the Majority opt to shy off the rights- talk! [?]
And do you know who is grinning over this?
The most conspicuous problem with Zain is probably the fear of being an entrepreneur. In my High school, I was informed that an entrepreneur is a risk taker, an investor and a business owner. The biggest entrepreneur in Kenya, as in the whole world is the government, which takes great risks to provide social services to the people.
For Zain, the fear of strategically putting on blinders and focussing on reaching the target, is what aids in poor performance in the local industry. For instance, while Safaricom is thriving Zain is just as quiet as still waters ( and I don't know whether they are running deep). If you watch TV or listen to Radio, how many times do Zain adverts run in a single day as opposed to Safaricom's? This is an indication that the local environment is not any better foe Zain. But failing to diversify is failure itself.
I hope this anticipated change of name, is a belated April Fools day joke!
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
Zain would make a perfect MBA thesis.. 2009/6/9 Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com>
people should be taught about this company in business school!
On 09/06/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
If they change names once again as Washington predicted some months ago, then let them be assured they will just have to close their business in Mobile Telephony and maybe focus on Customer care, for that is what Zain can score a greater margin that other telcos.
On a serious note, isn't there a law which prohibits a multinational or a national company from changing names before a certain period comes to an end, say after 30 or 45 years? Where is the KCA in all these? Or the Internation law of any sort here? Maybe a few African know there rights while the Majority opt to shy off the rights- talk! [?]
And do you know who is grinning over this?
The most conspicuous problem with Zain is probably the fear of being an entrepreneur. In my High school, I was informed that an entrepreneur is a risk taker, an investor and a business owner. The biggest entrepreneur in Kenya, as in the whole world is the government, which takes great risks to provide social services to the people.
For Zain, the fear of strategically putting on blinders and focussing on reaching the target, is what aids in poor performance in the local industry. For instance, while Safaricom is thriving Zain is just as quiet as still waters ( and I don't know whether they are running deep). If you watch TV or listen to Radio, how many times do Zain adverts run in a single day as opposed to Safaricom's? This is an indication that the local environment is not any better foe Zain. But failing to diversify is failure itself.
I hope this anticipated change of name, is a belated April Fools day joke!
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
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Seriously, whats up with Kencell / Celtel / Zain?? Where is it that they go wrong? is it wrong personnel, management? Weren't they the first network in Kenya? With the clearest network (atleast back then).. Someone told me that Zain-Kenya makes losses as compared to the other Zains - what is it that they do wrong? Am sure Orange would have given Safcom a run for their money had they been in the market for as long as Zain / Celtel / $bar Maybe they should leave it to skunks to manage... twende tukaweke asterisk huko.. hehehe Kind regards -Alex On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
Zain would make a perfect MBA thesis..
2009/6/9 Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com>
people should be taught about this company in business school!
On 09/06/2009, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
If they change names once again as Washington predicted some months ago, then let them be assured they will just have to close their business in Mobile Telephony and maybe focus on Customer care, for that is what Zain can score a greater margin that other telcos.
On a serious note, isn't there a law which prohibits a multinational or a national company from changing names before a certain period comes to an end, say after 30 or 45 years? Where is the KCA in all these? Or the Internation law of any sort here? Maybe a few African know there rights while the Majority opt to shy off the rights- talk! [?]
And do you know who is grinning over this?
The most conspicuous problem with Zain is probably the fear of being an entrepreneur. In my High school, I was informed that an entrepreneur is a risk taker, an investor and a business owner. The biggest entrepreneur in Kenya, as in the whole world is the government, which takes great risks to provide social services to the people.
For Zain, the fear of strategically putting on blinders and focussing on reaching the target, is what aids in poor performance in the local industry. For instance, while Safaricom is thriving Zain is just as quiet as still waters ( and I don't know whether they are running deep). If you watch TV or listen to Radio, how many times do Zain adverts run in a single day as opposed to Safaricom's? This is an indication that the local environment is not any better foe Zain. But failing to diversify is failure itself.
I hope this anticipated change of name, is a belated April Fools day joke!
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
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Kennedy, I have nothing to contribute for now lets see how this goes.............. Rita 2009/6/9 nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange?
-- Δαβίδ Josh Billings<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html
- "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
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-- Rita Gitobu
Waiting to see how this turns out, safCON is laughing all the way to the bank! Zain should really re-strategise* though On 6/10/09, Rita Gitobu <rgitobu@gmail.com> wrote:
Kennedy,
I have nothing to contribute for now lets see how this goes..............
Rita
2009/6/9 nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com>
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange?
-- Δαβίδ Josh Billings< http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
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I miss the good old Kencell running Alcatel 1000 E10 switches with the UNIX based control terminals... the French should take it back!!
This is highly welcomed- there's definitely an underlying systemic issue in Zain/Celtel/Kencell (what I would call a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot mentality). They need a complete overhaul of it's strategic and execution component. This the only GSM company I know of which instead of increasing it's subscriber numbers and making profits in a highly virgin and lucrative market is doing the reverse. Regards, MUTUA, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "nyarotho kennedy" <kenyarotho@gmail.com> To: <njukey@gmail.com>; "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain selling ?
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange?
-- οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ Josh Billings<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
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So they are going to let Suffericom rule this industry?? They must be Inzain people! Not to worry good people,as the good book would say, every cloud has an Orange lining that costs less than a dollar a day! Yu make my day skunk. God bless y'all! @Rita, hello? On 6/10/09, MUTUA Andrew <mutua.andrew@gmail.com> wrote:
This is highly welcomed- there's definitely an underlying systemic issue in Zain/Celtel/Kencell (what I would call a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot mentality). They need a complete overhaul of it's strategic and execution component. This the only GSM company I know of which instead of increasing it's subscriber numbers and making profits in a highly virgin and lucrative market is doing the reverse.
Regards,
MUTUA, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "nyarotho kennedy" <kenyarotho@gmail.com> To: <njukey@gmail.com>; "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain selling ?
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange?
-- Δαβίδ Josh Billings<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
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According to reports all over the net, a very powerful French Telco with operations in Africa ( most likely Orange) has interests in buying Zain's operations in Africa for an estimated $12billion plus a discount of all the debts. However, Zain intends to hold on to its Sudanese operation. In light of this, I suspect Safaricom are watching the situation very very closely as Orange could turn out to be an even bigger nightmare than previously thought. I would be very concerned if I were Safaricom. On 10/06/2009, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
So they are going to let Suffericom rule this industry?? They must be Inzain people! Not to worry good people,as the good book would say, every cloud has an Orange lining that costs less than a dollar a day! Yu make my day skunk. God bless y'all!
@Rita, hello?
On 6/10/09, MUTUA Andrew <mutua.andrew@gmail.com> wrote:
This is highly welcomed- there's definitely an underlying systemic issue in Zain/Celtel/Kencell (what I would call a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot mentality). They need a complete overhaul of it's strategic and execution component. This the only GSM company I know of which instead of increasing it's subscriber numbers and making profits in a highly virgin and lucrative market is doing the reverse.
Regards,
MUTUA, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "nyarotho kennedy" <kenyarotho@gmail.com> To: <njukey@gmail.com>; "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain selling ?
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets!
What if its Orange?
-- Δαβίδ Josh Billings<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
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According to reports all over the net, a very powerful French Telco with operations in Africa ( most likely Orange) has interests in buying Zain's operations in Africa for an estimated $12billion plus a discount of all the debts. However, Zain intends to hold on to its Sudanese operation.
In light of this, I suspect Safaricom are watching the situation very very closely as Orange could turn out to be an even bigger nightmare than previously thought. I would be very concerned if I were Safaricom.
On 10/06/2009, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
So they are going to let Suffericom rule this industry?? They must be Inzain people! Not to worry good people,as the good book would say, every cloud has an Orange lining that costs less than a dollar a day! Yu make my day skunk. God bless y'all!
@Rita, hello?
On 6/10/09, MUTUA Andrew <mutua.andrew@gmail.com> wrote:
This is highly welcomed- there's definitely an underlying systemic issue in Zain/Celtel/Kencell (what I would call a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot mentality). They need a complete overhaul of it's strategic and execution component. This the only GSM company I know of which instead of increasing it's subscriber numbers and making profits in a highly virgin and lucrative market is doing the reverse.
Regards,
MUTUA, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "nyarotho kennedy" <kenyarotho@gmail.com> To: <njukey@gmail.com>; "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain selling ?
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com>
> What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets! >
What if its Orange?
-- Δαβίδ Josh Billings< http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
-- People should know when they are conquered.
-- People should know when they are conquered. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Weren't Vivendi the original Kencell owners? On 6/12/09, Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&i...
2009/6/12 Victor Maina <vmaina@gmail.com>
According to reports all over the net, a very powerful French Telco with operations in Africa ( most likely Orange) has interests in buying Zain's operations in Africa for an estimated $12billion plus a discount of all the debts. However, Zain intends to hold on to its Sudanese operation.
In light of this, I suspect Safaricom are watching the situation very very closely as Orange could turn out to be an even bigger nightmare than previously thought. I would be very concerned if I were Safaricom.
On 10/06/2009, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
So they are going to let Suffericom rule this industry?? They must be Inzain people! Not to worry good people,as the good book would say, every cloud has an Orange lining that costs less than a dollar a day! Yu make my day skunk. God bless y'all!
@Rita, hello?
On 6/10/09, MUTUA Andrew <mutua.andrew@gmail.com> wrote:
This is highly welcomed- there's definitely an underlying systemic issue in Zain/Celtel/Kencell (what I would call a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot mentality). They need a complete overhaul of it's strategic and execution component. This the only GSM company I know of which instead of increasing it's subscriber numbers and making profits in a highly virgin and lucrative market is doing the reverse.
Regards,
MUTUA, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "nyarotho kennedy" <kenyarotho@gmail.com> To: <njukey@gmail.com>; "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain selling ?
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote: > 2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com> > >> What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets! >> > > What if its Orange? > > -- > Δαβίδ > Josh > Billings< http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> > - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting > thing he has got." >
-- People should know when they are conquered.
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-- Victor Maina.
Mobile: +254-738-722554 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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As they say, 'what goes around comes around.' I would have wished for some consolidation. I hate to have 4 phones. And then I saw some Chinese mockup with 4 sim-cards. How I wished I could have that technology on my Nokia. And that phone also had a zoom camera, a radio and a analogue TV with a huge antenna. All in one Chinese phone. Jesus! 2009/6/12 Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>
Weren't Vivendi the original Kencell owners?
On 6/12/09, Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.businessdayonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&i...
2009/6/12 Victor Maina <vmaina@gmail.com>
According to reports all over the net, a very powerful French Telco with operations in Africa ( most likely Orange) has interests in buying Zain's operations in Africa for an estimated $12billion plus a discount of all the debts. However, Zain intends to hold on to its Sudanese operation.
In light of this, I suspect Safaricom are watching the situation very very closely as Orange could turn out to be an even bigger nightmare than previously thought. I would be very concerned if I were Safaricom.
On 10/06/2009, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
So they are going to let Suffericom rule this industry?? They must be Inzain people! Not to worry good people,as the good book would say, every cloud has an Orange lining that costs less than a dollar a day! Yu make my day skunk. God bless y'all!
@Rita, hello?
On 6/10/09, MUTUA Andrew <mutua.andrew@gmail.com> wrote:
This is highly welcomed- there's definitely an underlying systemic issue in Zain/Celtel/Kencell (what I would call a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot mentality). They need a complete overhaul of it's strategic and execution component. This the only GSM company I know of which instead of increasing it's subscriber numbers and making profits in a highly virgin and
lucrative
market is doing the reverse.
Regards,
MUTUA, Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "nyarotho kennedy" <kenyarotho@gmail.com> To: <njukey@gmail.com>; "Skunkworks forum" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain selling ?
Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level??
On 6/9/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey if its Orange ( read France Telecom) one Rita Gitobu of Telkom > should immediately contribute her 2cts to this thread...ti hi hi!! > Rita are u guyz taking this to the next level?? > > On 6/9/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote: >> 2009/6/9 Moses Kemibaro <moses@dotsavvyafrica.com> >> >>> What if its France Telecom? Consolidation across African markets! >>> >> >> What if its Orange? >> >> -- >> Δαβίδ >> Josh >> Billings< http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/josh_billings.html> >> - "Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting >> thing he has got." >> > > > -- > People should know when they are conquered. >
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-- Victor Maina.
Mobile: +254-738-722554 _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
| T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares | _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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