Re: [Skunkworks] Advice on Cisco Router & Core Switch
Skunks, I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server. I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall. What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back. Thanks and regards, Peter Mugoh
If DHCP is your main worry, then you actually responding to a mosquito bite with a hammer - Windows and Linux DHCP servers can work with your current hardware and work very well. ./Ok3ch On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
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Off the top of my head. Using a Server will still require setting up IP Helper address at some point in your network on Layer 3. Why add more complexity instead of running the DHCP on the Switch? Also how often does a server OS need rebooting vs a Switch etc how critical is the network up-time etc There are cases when you need to use your server OS e.g. if for compliance you have hostname to IP address records mapping e.g. in MS AD environments. A number of consideration come to mind, but remember in network design we have a lot to consider other than the technology. R D On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Okechukwu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
If DHCP is your main worry, then you actually responding to a mosquito bite with a hammer - Windows and Linux DHCP servers can work with your current hardware and work very well.
./Ok3ch
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
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Denis / Okech, If I was to use my current DHCP Server, would I still be required to purchase a Layer 3 Switch? How would my DHCP Server be able to recognize that specific traffic is from a specific VLAN and then assign a specific IP from a specific subnet based on the VLAN ID? Would my server be able to handle inter VLAN Communication between allowed Computers? Thanks and regards, Peter On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
Off the top of my head. Using a Server will still require setting up IP Helper address at some point in your network on Layer 3. Why add more complexity instead of running the DHCP on the Switch? Also how often does a server OS need rebooting vs a Switch etc how critical is the network up-time etc
There are cases when you need to use your server OS e.g. if for compliance you have hostname to IP address records mapping e.g. in MS AD environments.
A number of consideration come to mind, but remember in network design we have a lot to consider other than the technology.
R
D
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Okechukwu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
If DHCP is your main worry, then you actually responding to a mosquito bite with a hammer - Windows and Linux DHCP servers can work with your current hardware and work very well.
./Ok3ch
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
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It depends if you can assign VLANs to your windows PC handling DHCP requests. Regards, Job Muriuki, Skype: heviejob On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Denis / Okech,
If I was to use my current DHCP Server, would I still be required to purchase a Layer 3 Switch? How would my DHCP Server be able to recognize that specific traffic is from a specific VLAN and then assign a specific IP from a specific subnet based on the VLAN ID? Would my server be able to handle inter VLAN Communication between allowed Computers?
Thanks and regards,
Peter
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
Off the top of my head. Using a Server will still require setting up IP Helper address at some point in your network on Layer 3. Why add more complexity instead of running the DHCP on the Switch? Also how often does a server OS need rebooting vs a Switch etc how critical is the network up-time etc
There are cases when you need to use your server OS e.g. if for compliance you have hostname to IP address records mapping e.g. in MS AD environments.
A number of consideration come to mind, but remember in network design we have a lot to consider other than the technology.
R
D
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Okechukwu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
If DHCP is your main worry, then you actually responding to a mosquito bite with a hammer - Windows and Linux DHCP servers can work with your current hardware and work very well.
./Ok3ch
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
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Peter Mugoh, There is something called DHCP helper in Cisco which determines which server to forward DHCP requests to when using a network with multiple VLANs. Different companies have different implementation of the same concept. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Denis / Okech,
If I was to use my current DHCP Server, would I still be required to purchase a Layer 3 Switch? How would my DHCP Server be able to recognize that specific traffic is from a specific VLAN and then assign a specific IP from a specific subnet based on the VLAN ID? Would my server be able to handle inter VLAN Communication between allowed Computers?
Thanks and regards,
Peter
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
Off the top of my head. Using a Server will still require setting up IP Helper address at some point in your network on Layer 3. Why add more complexity instead of running the DHCP on the Switch? Also how often does a server OS need rebooting vs a Switch etc how critical is the network up-time etc
There are cases when you need to use your server OS e.g. if for compliance you have hostname to IP address records mapping e.g. in MS AD environments.
A number of consideration come to mind, but remember in network design we have a lot to consider other than the technology.
R
D
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Okechukwu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
If DHCP is your main worry, then you actually responding to a mosquito bite with a hammer - Windows and Linux DHCP servers can work with your current hardware and work very well.
./Ok3ch
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
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You would certainly require more network interfaces on your DHCP server connected to different VLANs and listening on respective segregated IP's and assigning them - Getting a layer 3 switch for your network is fantastic, just saying that DHCP issues should not be the reason why you would spend so much on them. ./Ok3ch On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Peter Mugoh <pkmugoh@gmail.com> wrote:
Denis / Okech,
If I was to use my current DHCP Server, would I still be required to purchase a Layer 3 Switch? How would my DHCP Server be able to recognize that specific traffic is from a specific VLAN and then assign a specific IP from a specific subnet based on the VLAN ID? Would my server be able to handle inter VLAN Communication between allowed Computers?
Thanks and regards,
Peter
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Denis G. Wahome <dwahome@gmail.com> wrote:
Off the top of my head. Using a Server will still require setting up IP Helper address at some point in your network on Layer 3. Why add more complexity instead of running the DHCP on the Switch? Also how often does a server OS need rebooting vs a Switch etc how critical is the network up-time etc
There are cases when you need to use your server OS e.g. if for compliance you have hostname to IP address records mapping e.g. in MS AD environments.
A number of consideration come to mind, but remember in network design we have a lot to consider other than the technology.
R
D
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Okechukwu via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
If DHCP is your main worry, then you actually responding to a mosquito bite with a hammer - Windows and Linux DHCP servers can work with your current hardware and work very well.
./Ok3ch
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
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On 4 May 2015 at 12:27, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
Is it possible to have several VLANs on windows server (NIC)? Can it hold/configure several instances of DHCP service/server tagged to specific VLAN. If the answer is yes, then just segment accordingly. and port facing the server - configure as TRUNK allowing *all* or *specific* vlans. Kind Regards, Wilson./
Thanks Wilson, Now this makes sense. Regards, Peter On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4 May 2015 at 12:27, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
Is it possible to have several VLANs on windows server (NIC)? Can it hold/configure several instances of DHCP service/server tagged to specific VLAN. If the answer is yes, then just segment accordingly. and port facing the server - configure as TRUNK allowing *all* or *specific* vlans.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
Configure an IP helper address pointing to the dhcp server on the various trunk interfaces. Configure the various ip scopes on the dhcp server for the different vlans. as long as the dhcp server can communicate with the router, it will issue the addresses to the various vlans. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Thanks Wilson,
Now this makes sense.
Regards,
Peter
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4 May 2015 at 12:27, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
Is it possible to have several VLANs on windows server (NIC)? Can it hold/configure several instances of DHCP service/server tagged to specific VLAN. If the answer is yes, then just segment accordingly. and port facing the server - configure as TRUNK allowing *all* or *specific* vlans.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
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Configure all your ip scopes on your DHCP server to match every Vlan subnet , then have ip helper on the core cisco switch on every vlan gateway interface . No need to have DHCP on a switch or a router . Regards Jeremiah Ngure On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Configure an IP helper address pointing to the dhcp server on the various trunk interfaces. Configure the various ip scopes on the dhcp server for the different vlans. as long as the dhcp server can communicate with the router, it will issue the addresses to the various vlans.
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Thanks Wilson,
Now this makes sense.
Regards,
Peter
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4 May 2015 at 12:27, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
Is it possible to have several VLANs on windows server (NIC)? Can it hold/configure several instances of DHCP service/server tagged to specific VLAN. If the answer is yes, then just segment accordingly. and port facing the server - configure as TRUNK allowing *all* or *specific* vlans.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
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-- Best Regards Jimmy Thuo
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Thanks Jeremiah, will start the testing and will revert. Regards, Peter Mugoh Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 16:16:57 To: Jimmy Thuo<jimmy.thuo@gmail.com>; Skunkworks Mailing List<skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Reply-To: Jeremiah Ngure <jngure@gmail.com>, Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Advice on Cisco Router & Core Switch _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Skunks, Thanks for the advice on the above subject. In addition, I found this link to be really helpful in setting up what I wanted. I think someone else might need to do the same in future. http://www.michaelriccioni.com/how-to-multiple-vlans-single-dhcp-server-mult... Regards, Peter Mugoh On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Jeremiah Ngure via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Configure all your ip scopes on your DHCP server to match every Vlan subnet , then have ip helper on the core cisco switch on every vlan gateway interface . No need to have DHCP on a switch or a router .
Regards Jeremiah Ngure
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Jimmy Thuo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Configure an IP helper address pointing to the dhcp server on the various trunk interfaces. Configure the various ip scopes on the dhcp server for the different vlans. as long as the dhcp server can communicate with the router, it will issue the addresses to the various vlans.
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Thanks Wilson,
Now this makes sense.
Regards,
Peter
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4 May 2015 at 12:27, Peter Mugoh via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Skunks,
I would like to purchase either one of the above and I need advice on the way to go. We are looking at network segregation using different subnets on different VLANs and at the moment we assign IP's by using a Windows DHCP Server.
I am not sure if Windows is able to handle assignment of DHCP on multiple subnets but from the little info I have gathered I understand this is easier done on either Cisco Router or Layer 3 Core switch. On our current setup we have Layer 2 2960 Catalyst switches and one 2901 Catalyst Router facing the internet before the Firewall.
What would be the best way to set this up? You can inbox your number and I will be glad to call back.
Thanks and regards,
Peter Mugoh
Is it possible to have several VLANs on windows server (NIC)? Can it hold/configure several instances of DHCP service/server tagged to specific VLAN. If the answer is yes, then just segment accordingly. and port facing the server - configure as TRUNK allowing *all* or *specific* vlans.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
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-- Best Regards Jimmy Thuo
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