Re: [Skunkworks] Let's build an Electronic Payment Solution!
An alternative to Paypal is 2checkout. http://www.2checkout.com/ It is just Paypal that refuses payments to Kenya. For the software payment solution ... Why not create what Kenya really needs. A generic online payment solution. Focusing on just software does not really make sense since there is no actual payment solution at all?
see right there is the problem, we are all here discussing paypal and visa and I know master card just threw their leg through the door....very credible sources have me believe they will all soon start merchandising locally (it will as usual be owned by foreigners:-)) by getting this fiber what we seem to have now is a faster path to a foreign mall (hotmail,yahoo,facebook,cnn etc etc)....we're exporting lots of capital...and time that could be used to develop local solutions...heck we have universities hosting mail abroad..ha! I liked the guy who said we create a generic payment solution that WORKS FOR US.....even a bad one to start with will be fine by me... ....... all our users and radio shows discussing facebook as their 'meeting place' is not the way to go and in this respect I honestly sometimes wish the fiber was delayed by a year or so to see if at least local content picks up before.... and by the way contrary to what everyone thinks, while the bandwidth costs do get to go down, the revenues for most of this ISP's are definately going to take a hit a huge hit.....its time we started opening up new revenue streams ..... Gitau On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
An alternative to Paypal is 2checkout. http://www.2checkout.com/ It is just Paypal that refuses payments to Kenya.
For the software payment solution ... Why not create what Kenya really needs. A generic online payment solution. Focusing on just software does not really make sense since there is no actual payment solution at all? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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The fact that visa n mastercard are localising their products is brilliant. . . Am of the thought that we should not be re-inventing the wheek . . Because visa have a workin solution we shouldnt rush to duplicate it in the name of local solutions . . Alternatively use the available platform and build on it. . . As in we shouldnt try to reinvent the internet and all other technologies just so as to make it locally made. . . .What mastercard n co. Should have is cck n .Gov breathing down their necks to use local staff in implementation etc such that we use their expertise and improve on it with our abundant local skill pool . . . . Just my thoughts . . On 9/16/09, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
see right there is the problem, we are all here discussing paypal and visa and I know master card just threw their leg through the door....very credible sources have me believe they will all soon start merchandising locally (it will as usual be owned by foreigners:-)) by getting this fiber what we seem to have now is a faster path to a foreign mall (hotmail,yahoo,facebook,cnn etc etc)....we're exporting lots of capital...and time that could be used to develop local solutions...heck we have universities hosting mail abroad..ha!
I liked the guy who said we create a generic payment solution that WORKS FOR US.....even a bad one to start with will be fine by me...
....... all our users and radio shows discussing facebook as their 'meeting place' is not the way to go and in this respect I honestly sometimes wish the fiber was delayed by a year or so to see if at least local content picks up before....
and by the way contrary to what everyone thinks, while the bandwidth costs do get to go down, the revenues for most of this ISP's are definately going to take a hit a huge hit.....its time we started opening up new revenue streams .....
Gitau
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
An alternative to Paypal is 2checkout. http://www.2checkout.com/ It is just Paypal that refuses payments to Kenya.
For the software payment solution ... Why not create what Kenya really needs. A generic online payment solution. Focusing on just software does not really make sense since there is no actual payment solution at all? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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yes but its expensive, we have local payment solutions begging to get adopted to the web - Kenya was first with mobile banking/payments, this cow should be milked by Wanjiku, Smith can buy the milk for post processing:-) Them (VISA/Mastercard) localizing is great I concur, what I'm advocating for is expanded choice for the kenyan/eastafrican consumer...think about it Visa won't make sense to pay for small items, master card won't make it easy to set up merchant accounts - I've gone through that process, its a pain - we'll end up with merchant account brokers - its not for regular garagarias to ati set up their site and start selling stuff (for now)....Im calling for a mix of the two (local and so called expat/foreign whatchagonnacallit solutions).... Also going by the trends, even master card and visa are steering in the mobile direction...more people have phones in africa than cards or even bank accts - go figure...you don't have to reinvent the wheel...just pick the most cost efective ...if developing one turns out cheaper then Id say go for it...... http://www.mastercard.com/us/company/en/newsroom/pr_mc_mobile_moneysend_plat... http://www.mobilemarketer.com/cms/news/banking-payments/4033.html http://www.gomonews.com/mastercard-finally-brings-moneysend-mobile-payment-t... http://www.corporate.visa.com/md/nr/press310.jsp Incidentally check out who bought a stake at obopay and start realizing this issues we're discussing are pretty much within our borders:-)and its a wide open market - and if we start now,maybe just maybe Wesley gets to have customers before the big shots get here..... http://www.essar.com/Telecom/pr/2008_04_28.htm Gitau On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
The fact that visa n mastercard are localising their products is brilliant. . . Am of the thought that we should not be re-inventing the wheek . . Because visa have a workin solution we shouldnt rush to duplicate it in the name of local solutions . . Alternatively use the available platform and build on it. . . As in we shouldnt try to reinvent the internet and all other technologies just so as to make it locally made. . . .What mastercard n co. Should have is cck n .Gov breathing down their necks to use local staff in implementation etc such that we use their expertise and improve on it with our abundant local skill pool . . . . Just my thoughts . .
On 9/16/09, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
see right there is the problem, we are all here discussing paypal and visa and I know master card just threw their leg through the door....very credible sources have me believe they will all soon start merchandising locally (it will as usual be owned by foreigners:-)) by getting this fiber what we seem to have now is a faster path to a foreign mall (hotmail,yahoo,facebook,cnn etc etc)....we're exporting lots of capital...and time that could be used to develop local solutions...heck we have universities hosting mail abroad..ha!
I liked the guy who said we create a generic payment solution that WORKS FOR US.....even a bad one to start with will be fine by me...
....... all our users and radio shows discussing facebook as their 'meeting place' is not the way to go and in this respect I honestly sometimes wish the fiber was delayed by a year or so to see if at least local content picks up before....
and by the way contrary to what everyone thinks, while the bandwidth costs do get to go down, the revenues for most of this ISP's are definately going to take a hit a huge hit.....its time we started opening up new revenue streams .....
Gitau
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Jonas | Lamu Software <jonas@lamusoftware.com> wrote:
An alternative to Paypal is 2checkout. http://www.2checkout.com/ It is just Paypal that refuses payments to Kenya.
For the software payment solution ... Why not create what Kenya really needs. A generic online payment solution. Focusing on just software does not really make sense since there is no actual payment solution at all? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Suppose we start by having a plan:, Today we start by suggesting what it will be called(I propose pesaKe). then Chartflow 18th Feb(Watu wajitolee), Database Design:-20th(Watu Wajitolee) then next month we can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers?
i suggest we use source forge. what happened to wesley? has he been kidnapped? On 17/09/2009, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
Suppose we start by having a plan:, Today we start by suggesting what it will be called(I propose pesaKe). then Chartflow 18th Feb(Watu wajitolee), Database Design:-20th(Watu Wajitolee) then next month we can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Hold your horses ladies and gentlemen. I think it is premature to start talking about coding and source forge and it is pretty clear everyone has not understood the problem differently! What about problem definition? Analysis? Functionality? Design? On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
i suggest we use source forge. what happened to wesley? has he been kidnapped?
On 17/09/2009, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
Suppose we start by having a plan:, Today we start by suggesting what it will be called(I propose pesaKe). then Chartflow 18th Feb(Watu wajitolee), Database Design:-20th(Watu Wajitolee) then next month we can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers?
that is why we first have to come up with a project manager(s). As we look for wesley, any other willing Pms? On 17/09/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Hold your horses ladies and gentlemen. I think it is premature to start talking about coding and source forge and it is pretty clear everyone has not understood the problem differently! What about problem definition? Analysis? Functionality? Design?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
i suggest we use source forge. what happened to wesley? has he been kidnapped?
On 17/09/2009, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
Suppose we start by having a plan:, Today we start by suggesting what it will be called(I propose pesaKe). then Chartflow 18th Feb(Watu wajitolee), Database Design:-20th(Watu Wajitolee) then next month we can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers?
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Although I've been silent on this one, I support Rad's unreservedly and go by his opinion. Then we will know who to make the PM etc!!! My little views 2009/9/17 Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com>
Hold your horses ladies and gentlemen. I think it is premature to start talking about coding and source forge and it is pretty clear everyone has not understood the problem differently! What about problem definition? Analysis? Functionality? Design?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
i suggest we use source forge. what happened to wesley? has he been kidnapped?
On 17/09/2009, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
Suppose we start by having a plan:, Today we start by suggesting what it will be called(I propose pesaKe). then Chartflow 18th Feb(Watu wajitolee), Database Design:-20th(Watu Wajitolee) then next month we can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers?
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Hey, I'm still around. Yahoo seems to delay delivery of my emails, may be I should move to gmail... I'm aware of 2 companies that are building such a solution and 1 company that has already built it, and a group of developers from Coast who are planning on building it. I think it will be important to meet them and see what they have (in terms of the requirements I've listed below), what the revenue share structure is and any other important info. Below are my contributions: Problem definition: Refer to first email on this thread: Requirements: 1. Intergration in as many platforms as possible, but most important platforms for a start: Web browser, Mobile, PC/Mac Apps. 2. Open API for developers. 3. Secure: Secure trasmission of data, security of the client data, security of the server infrastructure (hardware and software). 4. Simple, predictable steps for client to make transactions. Simple registration. 5. Common look and feel of the payment UI across platforms in order to build confidence about the system in clients. E.g. a common logo. 6. Registered entity that takes responsibility of the system, customer support, ... 7. System should handle refunds or transaction rollbacks. 8. System should handle client sessions robustly. If client session is terminated, store data, and remind client when client does the next transaction. This seems simple at first but might not be so e.g: If client was subsribing for a service on mobile then battery died or something happened that caused client to go offline, then if client logged into web to use the payment system for a different product then client should be aware of the terminated mobile transaction. 9. Audit system to, among other things, keep track of un-used Serial numbers and the vendor with the serial numbers. 10. Regular back-up system and a sound disaster recovery plan. O_O --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Let's build an Electronic Payment Solution! To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 9:51 PM Although I've been silent on this one, I support Rad's unreservedly and go by his opinion. Then we will know who to make the PM etc!!! My little views 2009/9/17 Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> Hold your horses ladies and gentlemen. I think it is premature to start talking about coding and source forge and it is pretty clear everyone has not understood the problem differently! What about problem definition? Analysis? Functionality? Design? On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
i suggest we use source forge. what happened to wesley? has he been kidnapped?
On 17/09/2009, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
Suppose we start by having a plan:, Today we start by suggesting what it will be called(I propose pesaKe). then Chartflow 18th Feb(Watu wajitolee), Database Design:-20th(Watu Wajitolee) then next month we can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers?
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Just to add, One of the good features with the payment solution is that it may not need advertising, as it's indirectly advertised by the applications that use it. But I think it will need an approval from the relevant government authorities, and that approval be shown to the client. The system can also start with transactions of low value, that way people might not be put off, until they have trust on the system, then larger money transactions can be done. I believe Content Developers (Media houses, Musicians, artists, ...), not just Software Developers, will be some of the beneficiaries. @~) --- On Sat, 9/19/09, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote: From: wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] Let's build an Electronic Payment Solution! To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: "ke-users" <ke-internetusers@bdix.net> Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 5:38 PM Hey, I'm still around. Yahoo seems to delay delivery of my emails, may be I should move to gmail... I'm aware of 2 companies that are building such a solution and 1 company that has already built it, and a group of developers from Coast who are planning on building it. I think it will be important to meet them and see what they have (in terms of the requirements I've listed below), what the revenue share structure is and any other important info. Below are my contributions: Problem definition: Refer to first email on this thread: Requirements: 1. Intergration in as many platforms as possible, but most important platforms for a start: Web browser, Mobile, PC/Mac Apps. 2. Open API for developers. 3. Secure: Secure trasmission of data, security of the client data, security of the server infrastructure (hardware and software). 4. Simple, predictable steps for client to make transactions. Simple registration. 5. Common look and feel of the payment UI across platforms in order to build confidence about the system in clients. E.g. a common logo. 6. Registered entity that takes responsibility of the system, customer support, ... 7. System should handle refunds or transaction rollbacks. 8. System should handle client sessions robustly. If client session is terminated, store data, and remind client when client does the next transaction. This seems simple at first but might not be so e.g: If client was subsribing for a service on mobile then battery died or something happened that caused client to go offline, then if client logged into web to use the payment system for a different product then client should be aware of the terminated mobile transaction. 9. Audit system to, among other things, keep track of un-used Serial numbers and the vendor with the serial numbers. 10. Regular back-up system and a sound disaster recovery plan. O_O --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote: From: Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Let's build an Electronic Payment Solution! To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 9:51 PM Although I've been silent on this one, I support Rad's unreservedly and go by his opinion. Then we will know who to make the PM etc!!! My little views 2009/9/17 Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> Hold your horses ladies and gentlemen. I think it is premature to start talking about coding and source forge and it is pretty clear everyone has not understood the problem differently! What about problem definition? Analysis? Functionality? Design? On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
i suggest we use source forge. what happened to wesley? has he been kidnapped?
On 17/09/2009, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
Suppose we start by having a plan:, Today we start by suggesting what it will be called(I propose pesaKe). then Chartflow 18th Feb(Watu wajitolee), Database Design:-20th(Watu Wajitolee) then next month we can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers?
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 6:21 PM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
But I think it will need an approval from the relevant government authorities, and that approval be shown to the client.
The most "relevant government authority" calls for your comments saying "CCK's actions will affect people and organizations across Kenya. As a result, it is very important that our decisions take account of the views of those who have an interest in the outcome. Consultation plays an important part in achieving this. It allows those who could be affected by or concerned about a particular issue to give us their views before we decide on a course of action. Consultation is an essential part of regulatory accountability – the means by which those people and organizations affected by our decisions can judge what we do and why we do it." <http://www.cck.go.ke/public_consultations/> ---- Therefore, at this point in time what is needed (before Friday next week) is for us to comments on "The Kenya Communications(Electronic Transactions) Regulations, 2009" among all other documents just published yesterday at <http://www.cck.go.ke/current_consultations/> (including the consumer protection reasons that provoked 'Mbytetometer.") Otherwise, we risk continuing 'announcing' great initiatives here only to hit walls later on, then blame authorities for frustrating our noble efforts...
You're going to require a few key people who wil either make or break the whole thing -database designer ---- most important...he gets it wrong then ... -graphic designer --- decides on the look and feel of practically everything -encryption expert ---- security and unique key systems -documenter ---- code has to be documented from the go -everyone else...coders for the various platforms at this point java appears the simplest to use across platforms and the most portable also it appears to have inbuilt support for most of the features that may be required and the language is easy and there are about enough programmers... ----------------------------------------------------------- Direct Download<http://sites.google.com/site/usbdiskintegritychecker/home/uscan_v3.5.zip?attredirects=0> Go to Website <http://sites.google.com/site/usbdiskintegritychecker/>
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers?
There has been a one-week-old ongoing conversation with one of the service providers to offer complimentary hosting. Allow me not to preempt its outcome. Will update list in due course.
Gakuru, why don't you become one of the PMs (We promise you that you will never walk alone)? On 17/09/2009, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
can start scripting, etc, etc... I believe skunkworks(Is there a structure like sourceforge in place for apps?) and/or sourceforge can host us. Any Takers?
There has been a one-week-old ongoing conversation with one of the service providers to offer complimentary hosting. Allow me not to preempt its outcome. Will update list in due course. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Gakuru, why don't you become one of the PMs (We promise you that you will never walk alone)?
Till a .Net port of the Java project will we part?
i still need we need one for the early stages of SDC. we need order in all the noise we will be making On 17/09/2009, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Gakuru, why don't you become one of the PMs (We promise you that you will never walk alone)?
Till a .Net port of the Java project will we part?
-- with Regards: Kazi kwa vijana and other idiots, all at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com
participants (11)
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Clement Ongera -
Dennis Kioko -
Gakuru Alex -
Jacob Ayienda -
John Gitau -
Jonas | Lamu Software -
Mark Mwangi -
Murigi Muraya -
Rad! -
Solomon Mburu -
wesley kirinya