China's 5 year Open Source strategy based on Ubuntu

Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology defines a new reference architecture for standard operating systems in China .... http://www.canonical.com/content/canonical-and-chinese-standards-body-announ... Another brazen cross-post, Bernard

Meanwhile back in Nairobi.... On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Bernard Owuor <b_owuor@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology defines a new reference architecture for standard operating systems in China ....
http://www.canonical.com/content/canonical-and-chinese-standards-body-announ...
Another brazen cross-post, Bernard
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Is it me or does someone else see Microsoft throwing loads of cash to the Chinese government in order to stop them from adopting Linux on a large scale? One thing I know is that China represents a huge market to them even if a large proportion of the population pirates MS software. Martin. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Bernard Owuor <b_owuor@yahoo.com> wrote:
Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology defines a new reference architecture for standard operating systems in China ....
http://www.canonical.com/content/canonical-and-chinese-standards-body-announ...
Another brazen cross-post, Bernard
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If you observe the Chinese social media space, you'll know they have their own agenda to have homegrown offerings for what is used globally. If this was just about Microsoft , they would have offered Ubuntu or Fedora rather than a whole new alternative from the ground up.

Am not saying that this is about Microsoft @Dennis. Am saying that Microsoft would not want to lose a billion or so users to an alternative O.S. China has always wanted to build their own Linux based O.S, most likely for reasons of National pride. Previous attempts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Flag_Linux>have not been too successful. Martin. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
If you observe the Chinese social media space, you'll know they have their own agenda to have homegrown offerings for what is used globally.
If this was just about Microsoft , they would have offered Ubuntu or Fedora rather than a whole new alternative from the ground up.
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Its not just National pride, its got more to do with strategic considerations. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Am not saying that this is about Microsoft @Dennis. Am saying that Microsoft would not want to lose a billion or so users to an alternative O.S. China has always wanted to build their own Linux based O.S, most likely for reasons of National pride. Previous attempts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Flag_Linux>have not been too successful.
Martin.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
If you observe the Chinese social media space, you'll know they have their own agenda to have homegrown offerings for what is used globally.
If this was just about Microsoft , they would have offered Ubuntu or Fedora rather than a whole new alternative from the ground up.
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Well, there's the issue of control. China has also loudly voiced its uncomfort with Android's dominance of the Chinese market. On 22 Mar 2013 17:00, "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
Its not just National pride, its got more to do with strategic considerations.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com>wrote:
Am not saying that this is about Microsoft @Dennis. Am saying that Microsoft would not want to lose a billion or so users to an alternative O.S. China has always wanted to build their own Linux based O.S, most likely for reasons of National pride. Previous attempts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Flag_Linux>have not been too successful.
Martin.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
If you observe the Chinese social media space, you'll know they have their own agenda to have homegrown offerings for what is used globally.
If this was just about Microsoft , they would have offered Ubuntu or Fedora rather than a whole new alternative from the ground up.
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Android is also open-source.... they can always fork it and run away with the fork, if they wanted control. China has always pushed Linux (Red-Flag Linux - which is a Redhat-based distro built as Asianux by an East Asian team, sold in Korea as Haansoft Linux, and Japan as MiracleLinux). Below is a 2008 post asking why China was pushing adoption of RedFlag. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/dec/04/linux-microsoft I think the government (and other public institutions) adopted it internally as their server software of choice. But this is the first time China appears to be pushing a desktop version of Linux. While they invested in the RedFlag Linux company, they appear to have taken a different approach with Ubuntu (Canonical), which gives them much less control. They seem to be genuinely more interested in learning and growing their technology, as opposed to controlling it. ________________________________ From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] China's 5 year Open Source strategy based on Ubuntu Well, there's the issue of control. China has also loudly voiced its uncomfort with Android's dominance of the Chinese market. On 22 Mar 2013 17:00, "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote: Its not just National pride, its got more to do with strategic considerations.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote:
Am not saying that this is about Microsoft @Dennis. Am saying that Microsoft would not want to lose a billion or so users to an alternative O.S. China has always wanted to build their own Linux based O.S, most likely for reasons of National pride. Previous attempts have not been too successful.
Martin.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
If you observe the Chinese social media space, you'll know they have their own agenda to have homegrown offerings for what is used globally.
If this was just about Microsoft , they would have offered Ubuntu or Fedora rather than a whole new alternative from the ground up.
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Its one thing to have numerous closed-door boardroom meetings with Microsoft and still not have the will to trust the security integrity and profile auditing features/tools provided for Windows., and another to invest in a community driven OS - get the exact same results, and have the ability to verify the integrity of the OS code line by code line. The Chinese as usual have a plan. On 3/22/13, Bernard Owuor <b_owuor@yahoo.com> wrote:
Android is also open-source.... they can always fork it and run away with the fork, if they wanted control.
China has always pushed Linux (Red-Flag Linux - which is a Redhat-based distro built as Asianux by an East Asian team, sold in Korea as Haansoft Linux, and Japan as MiracleLinux). Below is a 2008 post asking why China was pushing adoption of RedFlag.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/dec/04/linux-microsoft
I think the government (and other public institutions) adopted it internally as their server software of choice.
But this is the first time China appears to be pushing a desktop version of Linux. While they invested in the RedFlag Linux company, they appear to have taken a different approach with Ubuntu (Canonical), which gives them much less control. They seem to be genuinely more interested in learning and growing their technology, as opposed to controlling it.
________________________________ From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] China's 5 year Open Source strategy based on Ubuntu
Well, there's the issue of control. China has also loudly voiced its uncomfort with Android's dominance of the Chinese market. On 22 Mar 2013 17:00, "Evans Ikua" <ikua.evans@gmail.com> wrote:
Its not just National pride, its got more to do with strategic considerations.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote:
Am not saying that this is about Microsoft @Dennis. Am saying that Microsoft would not want to lose a billion or so users to an alternative O.S. China has always wanted to build their own Linux based O.S, most likely for reasons of National pride. Previous attempts have not been too successful.
Martin.
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
If you observe the Chinese social media space, you'll know they have their own agenda to have homegrown offerings for what is used globally.
If this was just about Microsoft , they would have offered Ubuntu or Fedora rather than a whole new alternative from the ground up.
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Bernard Owuor
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