Hi guys, I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern region. Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - kindly advise coz am new on this.
Hi Gekone, My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour. Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have your figure. I wonder how other listers approach this.. -- Ndungi Kyalo On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
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Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation. On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gekone,
My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour.
Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc
Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have your figure.
I wonder how other listers approach this..
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi guys, I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern region. Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - kindly advise coz am new on this.
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Correction, 4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr. You cant work 24 hrs a day :-) You're welcome. -- Ndungi Kyalo On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gekone,
My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour.
Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc
Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have your figure.
I wonder how other listers approach this..
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi guys, I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern region. Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - kindly advise coz am new on this.
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Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gekone,
My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour.
Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc
Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have your figure.
I wonder how other listers approach this..
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi guys, I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern region. Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - kindly advise coz am new on this.
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Thank you guys one again for your advise and guidance. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM, James Muendo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ
On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gekone,
My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour.
Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc
Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have your figure.
I wonder how other listers approach this..
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi guys, I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern region. Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - kindly advise coz am new on this.
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@Muendo, $35/hour? In Kenyan market? I doubt if that is competitive price On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM, James Muendo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ
On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gekone,
My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour.
Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc
Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have your figure.
I wonder how other listers approach this..
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi guys, I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern region. Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - kindly advise coz am new on this.
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In the Kenyan market it's around USD 20-25 for web and mobile apps Kind Regards, Kennedy KK Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Muendo,
$35/hour? In Kenyan market? I doubt if that is competitive price
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM, James Muendo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ
On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gekone,
My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour.
Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc
Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have your figure.
I wonder how other listers approach this..
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi guys, I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern region. Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - kindly advise coz am new on this.
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"It is amazing how much you can ascertain by just finding out."
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Does that mean as a freelance developer working just 8 hrs a day for 25 days a month can earn a cool (20 - 25)USD/h * 8hrs * 25 days * Ksh. 98 = 392K - 490K per month?, and if i stretch myself and work 16 hrs a day I can earn almost an million... Who are the clients pay such? I seem to be looking for work from the wrong clients... On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Kenyan market it's around USD 20-25 for web and mobile apps
Kind Regards,
Kennedy KK
Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Muendo,
$35/hour? In Kenyan market? I doubt if that is competitive price
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM, James Muendo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ
On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi Gekone,
My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour.
Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc
Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have your figure.
I wonder how other listers approach this..
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
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"It is amazing how much you can ascertain by just finding out."
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A working day may have 8 hours but not all of them go into billable hours. Count social media, news, Youtube, Skunkworks, unmentionables, etc Put it at 20USD/hour * 5hours * 20 days * Ksh 100 = Ksh. 200,000 Remember, for a freelancer, there isn't always work waiting and many hours go into looking for projects that don't always come through, stalled projects, 'research' projects, etc that can take up to 50% of your time in a month = Ksh. 100,000 On 24 June 2015 at 16:04, Francis Mwangi Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Does that mean as a freelance developer working just 8 hrs a day for 25 days a month can earn a cool (20 - 25)USD/h * 8hrs * 25 days * Ksh. 98 = 392K - 490K per month?, and if i stretch myself and work 16 hrs a day I can earn almost an million...
Who are the clients pay such? I seem to be looking for work from the wrong clients...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Kenyan market it's around USD 20-25 for web and mobile apps
Kind Regards,
Kennedy KK
Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Muendo,
$35/hour? In Kenyan market? I doubt if that is competitive price
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM, James Muendo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ
On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> Hi Gekone, > > My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? > For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn > 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour. > > Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer > this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, > server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the > client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", > training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc > > Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in > hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have > your figure. > > I wonder how other listers approach this.. > > -- > Ndungi Kyalo > > On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern >> region. >> Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - >> kindly advise coz am new on this. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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@Francis, don't be too optimistic but I've heard guys clocking those figures on a project. The issue has always been justifying the man-hours i.e. why 100 and not 80. Most of the time whether you do 8 or 16 does not matter to the client. You can plan time based on 8 but you know you''ll do 16 and deliver before time and spend rest of the month in Malindi. Kind Regards, Kennedy KK Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege < francis.mwangi.chege@gmail.com> wrote:
Does that mean as a freelance developer working just 8 hrs a day for 25 days a month can earn a cool (20 - 25)USD/h * 8hrs * 25 days * Ksh. 98 = 392K - 490K per month?, and if i stretch myself and work 16 hrs a day I can earn almost an million...
Who are the clients pay such? I seem to be looking for work from the wrong clients...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Kenyan market it's around USD 20-25 for web and mobile apps
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On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Muendo,
$35/hour? In Kenyan market? I doubt if that is competitive price
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM, James Muendo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ
On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the calculation.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> Hi Gekone, > > My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? > For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn > 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour. > > Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To answer > this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development time, > server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes where the > client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small change' ", > training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with client etc > > Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in > hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have > your figure. > > I wonder how other listers approach this.. > > -- > Ndungi Kyalo > > On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North eastern >> region. >> Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? - >> kindly advise coz am new on this. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Chege, Depends on client project and budget. I have seen scenarios of up to $60/hour. Skill set and experience counts a lot. You could charge a lot and deliver within a short time, or charge moderate and take your time. Depends on how you want to deal with the client. regards, ᐧ On 24 June 2015 at 16:49, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Francis, don't be too optimistic but I've heard guys clocking those figures on a project. The issue has always been justifying the man-hours i.e. why 100 and not 80. Most of the time whether you do 8 or 16 does not matter to the client. You can plan time based on 8 but you know you''ll do 16 and deliver before time and spend rest of the month in Malindi.
Kind Regards,
Kennedy KK
Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege < francis.mwangi.chege@gmail.com> wrote:
Does that mean as a freelance developer working just 8 hrs a day for 25 days a month can earn a cool (20 - 25)USD/h * 8hrs * 25 days * Ksh. 98 = 392K - 490K per month?, and if i stretch myself and work 16 hrs a day I can earn almost an million...
Who are the clients pay such? I seem to be looking for work from the wrong clients...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Kenyan market it's around USD 20-25 for web and mobile apps
Kind Regards,
Kennedy KK
Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Muendo,
$35/hour? In Kenyan market? I doubt if that is competitive price
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM, James Muendo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ
On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the > calculation. > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Hi Gekone, >> >> My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? >> For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn >> 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour. >> >> Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To >> answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development >> time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes >> where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small >> change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with >> client etc >> >> Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in >> hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have >> your figure. >> >> I wonder how other listers approach this.. >> >> -- >> Ndungi Kyalo >> >> On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North >>> eastern region. >>> Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? >>> - kindly advise coz am new on this. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >
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The hours per day don't actually matter in terms of pay but only in terms of duration of project. You can have 80 hours total project work hours but it doesn't necessarily mean the project will take 10 days though. ./Ok3ch On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Francis, don't be too optimistic but I've heard guys clocking those figures on a project. The issue has always been justifying the man-hours i.e. why 100 and not 80. Most of the time whether you do 8 or 16 does not matter to the client. You can plan time based on 8 but you know you''ll do 16 and deliver before time and spend rest of the month in Malindi.
Kind Regards,
Kennedy KK
Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege < francis.mwangi.chege@gmail.com> wrote:
Does that mean as a freelance developer working just 8 hrs a day for 25 days a month can earn a cool (20 - 25)USD/h * 8hrs * 25 days * Ksh. 98 = 392K - 490K per month?, and if i stretch myself and work 16 hrs a day I can earn almost an million...
Who are the clients pay such? I seem to be looking for work from the wrong clients...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
In the Kenyan market it's around USD 20-25 for web and mobile apps
Kind Regards,
Kennedy KK
Mobile: +254721699119 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Francis Mwangi Chege via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Muendo,
$35/hour? In Kenyan market? I doubt if that is competitive price
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:32 AM, James Muendo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,
From my experience, Budget about $35/hour for the job. As for number of hours, what Ndungi said provides a good platform top operate.
Regards, ᐧ
On 23 June 2015 at 00:30, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Correction,
4000/8hours ~= 500 KES per hr.
You cant work 24 hrs a day :-)
You're welcome.
-- Ndungi Kyalo
On 22 June 2015 at 19:08, Gekone Gekone <geroshing@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Kyalo for your advise , i appreciate, let me now do the > calculation. > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Ndungi Kyalo via skunkworks < > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> Hi Gekone, >> >> My take : How much are you earning right now per hour or per day? >> For example, if your monthly salary is say 120,000 KES. That means you earn >> 120000/30 = 4000KES per day or 4000/24hrs ~= 167KES per hour. >> >> Now, how many hours are you likely to take on the project? To >> answer this question satisfactorily, you should be detailed. Development >> time, server set up time, debugging, changes from client, those changes >> where the client begins "the site is fine i only want to add 'one small >> change' ", training, travel time and costs, time taken up in meetings with >> client etc >> >> Once you have some up with the time it will take (in days or in >> hours) then multiply by how much you are earning right now and you have >> your figure. >> >> I wonder how other listers approach this.. >> >> -- >> Ndungi Kyalo >> >> On 22 June 2015 at 15:33, Gekone Gekone via skunkworks < >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> I want to develope a website for one of the lodges in North >>> eastern region. >>> Anyone with information how i should charge or estimate the cost? >>> - kindly advise coz am new on this. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >
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