Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo. ---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919. ------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers Hi Oliver, Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members. On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today..
Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer members direct benefits.
Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking the list to another level..
Me thoughts
Oliver
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Oliver,
There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning.
On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far..
Curious, Oliver
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People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the last word. Kind Regards, Wilson./ On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote:
Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today..
Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer members direct benefits.
Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking the list to another level..
Me thoughts
Oliver
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Oliver,
There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning.
On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far..
Curious, Oliver
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It will be done... Watch this space.. On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote:
Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today..
Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer members direct benefits.
Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking the list to another level..
Me thoughts
Oliver
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Oliver,
There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning.
On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far..
Curious, Oliver
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Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society. I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas. Regards, Philip. On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote:
Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today..
Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer members direct benefits.
Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking the list to another level..
Me thoughts
Oliver
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Oliver,
There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning.
On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>
wrote:
ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so
far..
Curious, Oliver
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Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within... ./Ok3ch On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote:
Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today..
Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer members direct benefits.
Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking the list to another level..
Me thoughts
Oliver
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Oliver,
There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning.
On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>
wrote:
> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so
far..
> > > Curious, > Oliver > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Okech, Nice idea but is it as easy to change status quo as you put it? (Just thinking aloud) Regards, Samuel Wanjiku samuel@isolve.co.ke On Jan 16, 2014 2:13 PM, "Okechukwu" <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote:
Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today..
Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer members direct benefits.
Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking the list to another level..
Me thoughts
Oliver
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Hi Oliver, > > There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. > > > On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far.. >> >> >> Curious, >> Oliver >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote: People say "IT gurus aren't 'good' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today..
Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer members direct benefits.
Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking the list to another level..
Me thoughts
Oliver
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Hi Oliver, > > There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. > > > On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far.. >> >> >> Curious, >> Oliver >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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@Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment. Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815 On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something
Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote:
Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today..
Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer members direct benefits.
Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking the list to another level..
Me thoughts
Oliver
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Hi Oliver, > > There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. > > > On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far.. >> >> >> Curious, >> Oliver >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea. Build from scratch. That should be our ploy. Oliver On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
@Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment.
Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something
Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote:
Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today.. > > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer > members direct benefits. > > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking > the list to another level.. > > Me thoughts > > Oliver > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> Hi Oliver, >> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >> >> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far.. >>> >>> >>> Curious, >>> Oliver >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."
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Association of ICT Professionals Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..? On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea.
Build from scratch. That should be our ploy.
Oliver
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
@Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment.
Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something
Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote:
People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If > there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what > photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi > fikria hivyo. > > ---------- > David Nyamboki > Technical Consultant. > 0726570919. > > ------Original message------ > From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers > > Hi Oliver, > > Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to > engage > the members. > > > On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today.. > > > > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer > > members direct benefits. > > > > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our > mission > > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and > taking > > the list to another level.. > > > > Me thoughts > > > > Oliver > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < > odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Oliver, > >> > >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. > >> > >> > >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so > far.. > >>> > >>> > >>> Curious, > >>> Oliver > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> skunkworks mailing list > >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >>> ------------ > >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> ------------ > >>> > >>> Skunkworks Rules > >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >>> ------------ > >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > >> Nairobi,KE > >> +254733744121/+254722743223 > >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> skunkworks mailing list > >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> ------------ > >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > skunkworks mailing list > > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > ------------ > > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Great Oliver, I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association. I give moral and technical support. On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Association of ICT Professionals
Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea.
Build from scratch. That should be our ploy.
Oliver
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
@Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment.
Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something
Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com
wrote:
It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote:
> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to the > last word. > > Kind Regards, > Wilson./ > > > On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If >> there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what >> photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi >> fikria hivyo. >> >> ---------- >> David Nyamboki >> Technical Consultant. >> 0726570919. >> >> ------Original message------ >> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >> >> Hi Oliver, >> >> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to >> engage >> the members. >> >> >> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today.. >> > >> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and >> offer >> > members direct benefits. >> > >> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating >> our mission >> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and >> taking >> > the list to another level.. >> > >> > Me thoughts >> > >> > Oliver >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Hi Oliver, >> >> >> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list >> so far.. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Curious, >> >>> Oliver >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> skunkworks mailing list >> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >>> ------------ >> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >>> ------------ >> >>> >> >>> Skunkworks Rules >> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >>> ------------ >> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best regards, >> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> >> Nairobi,KE >> >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> skunkworks mailing list >> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> ------------ >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> ------------ >> >> >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> ------------ >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > skunkworks mailing list >> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > ------------ >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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I also agree with the idea and will support it fully. It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC). Tuko pamoja Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Great Oliver,
I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association.
I give moral and technical support.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Association of ICT Professionals
Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea.
Build from scratch. That should be our ploy.
Oliver
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>wrote:
@Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment.
Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something
Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
> It will be done... > > Watch this space.. > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote: > >> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to >> the last word. >> >> Kind Regards, >> Wilson./ >> >> >> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If >>> there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what >>> photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi >>> fikria hivyo. >>> >>> ---------- >>> David Nyamboki >>> Technical Consultant. >>> 0726570919. >>> >>> ------Original message------ >>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>> >>> Hi Oliver, >>> >>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to >>> engage >>> the members. >>> >>> >>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today.. >>> > >>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and >>> offer >>> > members direct benefits. >>> > >>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating >>> our mission >>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth >>> and taking >>> > the list to another level.. >>> > >>> > Me thoughts >>> > >>> > Oliver >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> >> Hi Oliver, >>> >> >>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list >>> so far.. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Curious, >>> >>> Oliver >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Best regards, >>> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> >> Nairobi,KE >>> >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> >> ------------ >>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> ------------ >>> >> >>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >> ------------ >>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > skunkworks mailing list >>> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > ------------ >>> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names.. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com>wrote:
I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Great Oliver,
I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association.
I give moral and technical support.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Association of ICT Professionals
Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea.
Build from scratch. That should be our ploy.
Oliver
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com
wrote:
@Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment.
Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something
Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. > > But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many > people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I > feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push > for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we > were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society. > > I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but > I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me > Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel > represents those int he technical ICT sector. > > Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members > can contribute ideas. > > Regards, > > Philip. > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < > olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It will be done... >> >> Watch this space.. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to >>> the last word. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Wilson./ >>> >>> >>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If >>>> there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what >>>> photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi >>>> fikria hivyo. >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> David Nyamboki >>>> Technical Consultant. >>>> 0726570919. >>>> >>>> ------Original message------ >>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>> >>>> Hi Oliver, >>>> >>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to >>>> engage >>>> the members. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi >>>> today.. >>>> > >>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and >>>> offer >>>> > members direct benefits. >>>> > >>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating >>>> our mission >>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth >>>> and taking >>>> > the list to another level.. >>>> > >>>> > Me thoughts >>>> > >>>> > Oliver >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>> >> >>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list >>>> so far.. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Curious, >>>> >>> Oliver >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Best regards, >>>> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> >> Nairobi,KE >>>> >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> >> ------------ >>>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> >> ------------ >>>> >> >>>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> >> ------------ >>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > skunkworks mailing list >>>> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > ------------ >>>> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> > ------------ >>>> > >>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>> Nairobi,KE >>>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help ./Ok3ch On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com>wrote:
I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Great Oliver,
I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association.
I give moral and technical support.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Association of ICT Professionals
Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea.
Build from scratch. That should be our ploy.
Oliver
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey < michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment.
Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
> You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it > formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party > makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by > all means start something > > Sent from my iPad > > On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: > > Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of > building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it > enmass and then change it from within... > > ./Ok3ch > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. >> >> But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many >> people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I >> feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push >> for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we >> were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society. >> >> I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, >> but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To >> me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I >> feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. >> >> Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members >> can contribute ideas. >> >> Regards, >> >> Philip. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It will be done... >>> >>> Watch this space.. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to >>>> the last word. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> Wilson./ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If >>>>> there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what >>>>> photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi >>>>> fikria hivyo. >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> David Nyamboki >>>>> Technical Consultant. >>>>> 0726570919. >>>>> >>>>> ------Original message------ >>>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>>> >>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>> >>>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand >>>>> to engage >>>>> the members. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi >>>>> today.. >>>>> > >>>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and >>>>> offer >>>>> > members direct benefits. >>>>> > >>>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating >>>>> our mission >>>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth >>>>> and taking >>>>> > the list to another level.. >>>>> > >>>>> > Me thoughts >>>>> > >>>>> > Oliver >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this >>>>> list so far.. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Curious, >>>>> >>> Oliver >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>> >> Nairobi,KE >>>>> >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> >> ------------ >>>>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> >> ------------ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> >> ------------ >>>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > skunkworks mailing list >>>>> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > >>>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> > ------------ >>>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>> Nairobi,KE >>>>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>> ------------ >>>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 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Am personally willing to help where I can, so if you have to, get me on the committee, but I still think committee is the wrong approach ./Ok3ch On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com>wrote:
I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Great Oliver,
I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association.
I give moral and technical support.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Association of ICT Professionals
Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea.
Build from scratch. That should be our ploy.
Oliver
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey < michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from > scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and > commitment. > > Best Regards, > Michael Akunga. > Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer > Cell No: +254 726 174 815 > E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com > Skype: michaelakunga > Viber: +254 726 174 815 > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: > >> You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it >> formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party >> makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by >> all means start something >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of >> building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it >> enmass and then change it from within... >> >> ./Ok3ch >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki < >> pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. >>> >>> But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many >>> people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I >>> feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push >>> for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we >>> were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society. >>> >>> I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, >>> but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To >>> me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I >>> feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. >>> >>> Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help >>> members can contribute ideas. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Philip. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It will be done... >>>> >>>> Watch this space.. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to >>>>> the last word. >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Wilson./ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. >>>>>> If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what >>>>>> photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi >>>>>> fikria hivyo. >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- >>>>>> David Nyamboki >>>>>> Technical Consultant. >>>>>> 0726570919. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------Original message------ >>>>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand >>>>>> to engage >>>>>> the members. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi >>>>>> today.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and >>>>>> offer >>>>>> > members direct benefits. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group >>>>>> indicating our mission >>>>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth >>>>>> and taking >>>>>> > the list to another level.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Me thoughts >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Oliver >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this >>>>>> list so far.. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Curious, >>>>>> >>> Oliver >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>>> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>>> >> Nairobi,KE >>>>>> >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>>> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> > ------------ >>>>>> > List info, 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ok Ill call it commission .. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am personally willing to help where I can, so if you have to, get me on the committee, but I still think committee is the wrong approach
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com>wrote:
I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Great Oliver,
I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association.
I give moral and technical support.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Association of ICT Professionals
Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com > wrote:
> Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own > rules. > One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage > accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea. > > Build from scratch. That should be our ploy. > > Oliver > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey < > michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote: > >> @Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from >> scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and >> commitment. >> >> Best Regards, >> Michael Akunga. >> Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer >> Cell No: +254 726 174 815 >> E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com >> Skype: michaelakunga >> Viber: +254 726 174 815 >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it >>> formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party >>> makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by >>> all means start something >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of >>> building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it >>> enmass and then change it from within... >>> >>> ./Ok3ch >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki < >>> pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. >>>> >>>> But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and >>>> many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. >>>> But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to >>>> advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners >>>> easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or >>>> society. >>>> >>>> I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, >>>> but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To >>>> me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I >>>> feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. >>>> >>>> Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help >>>> members can contribute ideas. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Philip. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It will be done... >>>>> >>>>> Watch this space.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it >>>>>> to the last word. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>> Wilson./ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. >>>>>>> If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what >>>>>>> photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi >>>>>>> fikria hivyo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> David Nyamboki >>>>>>> Technical Consultant. >>>>>>> 0726570919. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------Original message------ >>>>>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand >>>>>>> to engage >>>>>>> the members. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi >>>>>>> today.. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same >>>>>>> and offer >>>>>>> > members direct benefits. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group >>>>>>> indicating our mission >>>>>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for >>>>>>> growth and taking >>>>>>> > the list to another level.. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Me thoughts >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Oliver >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this >>>>>>> list so far.. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Curious, >>>>>>> >>> Oliver >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>>>> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>>>> >> Nairobi,KE >>>>>>> >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>>>> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> > 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Hehehe, commission is even worse, but a rose by any other name.... ./Ok3ch On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
ok Ill call it commission ..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am personally willing to help where I can, so if you have to, get me on the committee, but I still think committee is the wrong approach
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com>wrote:
I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Great Oliver,
I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association.
I give moral and technical support.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com > wrote:
> Association of ICT Professionals > > Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, > medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..? > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < > olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own >> rules. >> One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage >> accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea. >> >> Build from scratch. That should be our ploy. >> >> Oliver >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey < >> michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> @Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from >>> scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and >>> commitment. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Michael Akunga. >>> Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer >>> Cell No: +254 726 174 815 >>> E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com >>> Skype: michaelakunga >>> Viber: +254 726 174 815 >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it >>>> formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party >>>> makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by >>>> all means start something >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of >>>> building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it >>>> enmass and then change it from within... >>>> >>>> ./Ok3ch >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki < >>>> pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. >>>>> >>>>> But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and >>>>> many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. >>>>> But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to >>>>> advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners >>>>> easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or >>>>> society. >>>>> >>>>> I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, >>>>> but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To >>>>> me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I >>>>> feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. >>>>> >>>>> Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help >>>>> members can contribute ideas. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Philip. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It will be done... >>>>>> >>>>>> Watch this space.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it >>>>>>> to the last word. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>>> Wilson./ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. >>>>>>>> If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what >>>>>>>> photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi >>>>>>>> fikria hivyo. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>> David Nyamboki >>>>>>>> Technical Consultant. >>>>>>>> 0726570919. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------Original message------ >>>>>>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free >>>>>>>> hand to engage >>>>>>>> the members. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi >>>>>>>> today.. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same >>>>>>>> and offer >>>>>>>> > members direct benefits. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group >>>>>>>> indicating our mission >>>>>>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for >>>>>>>> growth and taking >>>>>>>> > the list to another level.. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Me thoughts >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Oliver >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this >>>>>>>> list so far.. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Curious, >>>>>>>> >>> Oliver >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>>>>> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>>>>> >> Nairobi,KE >>>>>>>> >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>>>>> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>>>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > 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I have been down this path before. Please own the process own that formal group. Incubate it. Give a list of what you need, get volunteers for those tasks (asking someone to be in a committee is not specific enough). What is committee supposed to do? Ideas? IMHO That's better debated on the list. My opinion on this is YOU come up with the draft proposal, tell us what you think such a formal group would be for. Do they meet? How? What for? I think kictanet our sister/brother forum would need more of a formal entity than skunkworks other than the occasional mbuzi/beer skunk hunting etch Sent from my iPad
On 18 Jan 2014, at 15:18, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe, commission is even worse, but a rose by any other name....
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: ok Ill call it commission ..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: Am personally willing to help where I can, so if you have to, get me on the committee, but I still think committee is the wrong approach
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com> wrote: I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja,
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: > Great Oliver, > > I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association. > > I give moral and technical support. > > >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >> Association of ICT Professionals >> >> Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..? >> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. >>> One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea. >>> >>> Build from scratch. That should be our ploy. >>> >>> Oliver >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> @Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment. >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Michael Akunga. >>>> Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer >>>> Cell No: +254 726 174 815 >>>> E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com >>>> Skype: michaelakunga >>>> Viber: +254 726 174 815 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within... >>>>>> >>>>>> ./Ok3ch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Philip. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> It will be done... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Watch this space.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> People say "IT gurus aren't 'good' managers", i believe it to the last word. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>>>>> Wilson./ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>> David Nyamboki >>>>>>>>>> Technical Consultant. >>>>>>>>>> 0726570919. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------Original message------ >>>>>>>>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage >>>>>>>>>> the members. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today.. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer >>>>>>>>>> > members direct benefits. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission >>>>>>>>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking >>>>>>>>>> > the list to another level.. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Me thoughts >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Oliver >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far.. >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> Curious, >>>>>>>>>> >>> Oliver >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks 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Skunks, Not everything should be formalized. Some things work better when informal than formal and I think Skunkworks is one of them. James On 1/19/2014 8:32 AM, John Gitau wrote:
I have been down this path before. Please own the process own that formal group.
Incubate it. Give a list of what you need, get volunteers for those tasks (asking someone to be in a committee is not specific enough). What is committee supposed to do? Ideas? IMHO That's better debated on the list.
My opinion on this is YOU come up with the draft proposal, tell us what you think such a formal group would be for. Do they meet? How? What for? I think kictanet our sister/brother forum would need more of a formal entity than skunkworks other than the occasional mbuzi/beer skunk hunting etch
Sent from my iPad
On 18 Jan 2014, at 15:18, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com <mailto:okechukwu@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hehehe, commission is even worse, but a rose by any other name....
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com <mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>> wrote:
ok Ill call it commission ..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com <mailto:okechukwu@gmail.com>> wrote:
Am personally willing to help where I can, so if you have to, get me on the committee, but I still think committee is the wrong approach
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com <mailto:okechukwu@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com <mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>> wrote:
I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com <mailto:karanjajf@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, */ /*
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com <mailto:pmusyoki@gmail.com>> wrote:
Great Oliver,
I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association.
I give moral and technical support.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com <mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>> wrote:
Association of ICT Professionals
Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com <mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea.
Build from scratch. That should be our ploy. Oliver
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com <mailto:michaelakunga@gmail.com>> wrote:
@Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and commitment.
Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 <tel:%2B254%20726%20174%20815> E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com <mailto:michaelakunga@gmail.com> Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815 <tel:%2B254%20726%20174%20815>
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com <mailto:jgitau@gmail.com>> wrote:
You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by all means start something
Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com <mailto:okechukwu@gmail.com>> wrote:
Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it enmass and then change it from within...
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com <mailto:pmusyoki@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed.
But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society.
I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector.
Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help members can contribute ideas.
Regards,
Philip.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com <mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>> wrote:
It will be done...
Watch this space..
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com <mailto:lixton@gmail.com>> wrote:
People say "IT gurus aren't '/good/' managers", i believe it to the last word.
Kind Regards, Wilson./
On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com <mailto:tchadavey@gmail.com>> wrote:
Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo.
---------- David Nyamboki Technical Consultant. 0726570919 <tel:0726570919>.
------Original message------ From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com <mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers
Hi Oliver,
Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand to engage the members.
On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com <mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>> wrote:
> That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi today.. > > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and offer > members direct benefits. > > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group indicating our mission > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth and taking > the list to another level.. > > Me thoughts > > Oliver > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com <mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com>>wrote: > >> >> Hi Oliver, >> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >> >> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com <mailto:olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this list so far.. >>> >>> >>> Curious, >>> Oliver >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121 <tel:%2B254733744121>/+254722743223 <tel:%2B254722743223> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke <mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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I personally believe both can co-exist - We have a formal part of skunkworks which is all voluntary and has all the nice stuff that comes with formality (including that website idea - mashable-type, or anything, throw in the SACCO-like functionality & the likes) and continue with the informal part (just like its been going). None is more bigger than the other and we have choice, and everyone is happy :-) My 0.000001 BTC ./Ok3ch On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:23 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
Not everything should be formalized. Some things work better when informal than formal and I think Skunkworks is one of them. James
On 1/19/2014 8:32 AM, John Gitau wrote:
I have been down this path before. Please own the process own that formal group.
Incubate it. Give a list of what you need, get volunteers for those tasks (asking someone to be in a committee is not specific enough). What is committee supposed to do? Ideas? IMHO That's better debated on the list.
My opinion on this is YOU come up with the draft proposal, tell us what you think such a formal group would be for. Do they meet? How? What for? I think kictanet our sister/brother forum would need more of a formal entity than skunkworks other than the occasional mbuzi/beer skunk hunting etch
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On 18 Jan 2014, at 15:18, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe, commission is even worse, but a rose by any other name....
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
ok Ill call it commission ..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am personally willing to help where I can, so if you have to, get me on the committee, but I still think committee is the wrong approach
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>wrote:
Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja < karanjajf@gmail.com> wrote:
I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
> Great Oliver, > > I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers > here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the > association. > > I give moral and technical support. > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < > olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Association of ICT Professionals >> >> Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, >> medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..? >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own >>> rules. >>> One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage >>> accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea. >>> >>> Build from scratch. That should be our ploy. >>> >>> Oliver >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey < >>> michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> @Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one >>>> from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and >>>> commitment. >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Michael Akunga. >>>> Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer >>>> Cell No: +254 726 174 815 >>>> E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com >>>> Skype: michaelakunga >>>> Viber: +254 726 174 815 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make >>>>> it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party >>>>> makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by >>>>> all means start something >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead >>>>> of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it >>>>> enmass and then change it from within... >>>>> >>>>> ./Ok3ch >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki < >>>>> pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. >>>>>> >>>>>> But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and >>>>>> many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. >>>>>> But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to >>>>>> advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners >>>>>> easily if we were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or >>>>>> society. >>>>>> >>>>>> I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of >>>>>> Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really >>>>>> represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may >>>>>> be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help >>>>>> members can contribute ideas. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Philip. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It will be done... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Watch this space.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson < >>>>>>> lixton@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe >>>>>>>> it to the last word. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>>>> Wilson./ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that >>>>>>>>> direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. >>>>>>>>> Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. >>>>>>>>> IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>> David Nyamboki >>>>>>>>> Technical Consultant. >>>>>>>>> 0726570919. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------Original message------ >>>>>>>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free >>>>>>>>> hand to engage >>>>>>>>> the members. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi >>>>>>>>> today.. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same >>>>>>>>> and offer >>>>>>>>> > members direct benefits. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group >>>>>>>>> indicating our mission >>>>>>>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for >>>>>>>>> growth and taking >>>>>>>>> > the list to another level.. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Me thoughts >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Oliver >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this >>>>>>>>> list so far.. >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> Curious, >>>>>>>>> >>> Oliver >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>> 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I must say there is a wind of change sweeping around, I don't wanna be a by stander and watch, I wanna be in it, part of it . @Gitau there are no words that will put it better than you said it all is required is someone to own this idea. Mr. Oliver give it a try buddy I promise you the 'committee' or 'comm...' whatever that is will have members and yes online meetings are ideal and I will do that possible to contribute too. @Okech, I was looking for the like button for the formal and informal thing I actually got it though far [?] hehhehe well said Best Regards, Michael Akunga. Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer Cell No: +254 726 174 815 E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com Skype: michaelakunga Viber: +254 726 174 815 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I personally believe both can co-exist - We have a formal part of skunkworks which is all voluntary and has all the nice stuff that comes with formality (including that website idea - mashable-type, or anything, throw in the SACCO-like functionality & the likes) and continue with the informal part (just like its been going). None is more bigger than the other and we have choice, and everyone is happy :-)
My 0.000001 BTC
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:23 PM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunks,
Not everything should be formalized. Some things work better when informal than formal and I think Skunkworks is one of them. James
On 1/19/2014 8:32 AM, John Gitau wrote:
I have been down this path before. Please own the process own that formal group.
Incubate it. Give a list of what you need, get volunteers for those tasks (asking someone to be in a committee is not specific enough). What is committee supposed to do? Ideas? IMHO That's better debated on the list.
My opinion on this is YOU come up with the draft proposal, tell us what you think such a formal group would be for. Do they meet? How? What for? I think kictanet our sister/brother forum would need more of a formal entity than skunkworks other than the occasional mbuzi/beer skunk hunting etch
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On 18 Jan 2014, at 15:18, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehehe, commission is even worse, but a rose by any other name....
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
ok Ill call it commission ..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Am personally willing to help where I can, so if you have to, get me on the committee, but I still think committee is the wrong approach
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>wrote:
Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com
wrote:
I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja < karanjajf@gmail.com> wrote:
> I also agree with the idea and will support it fully. > > It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit > with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC). > > Tuko pamoja > > Regards > ........................................................... > Josphat Karanja, > > > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Great Oliver, >> >> I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers >> here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the >> association. >> >> I give moral and technical support. >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Association of ICT Professionals >>> >>> Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, >>> medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own >>>> rules. >>>> One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage >>>> accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea. >>>> >>>> Build from scratch. That should be our ploy. >>>> >>>> Oliver >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey < >>>> michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one >>>>> from scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and >>>>> commitment. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Michael Akunga. >>>>> Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer >>>>> Cell No: +254 726 174 815 >>>>> E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com >>>>> Skype: michaelakunga >>>>> Viber: +254 726 174 815 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make >>>>>> it formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party >>>>>> makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by >>>>>> all means start something >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead >>>>>> of building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it >>>>>> enmass and then change it from within... >>>>>> >>>>>> ./Ok3ch >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki < >>>>>> pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before >>>>>>> and many people felt that the group functions better shrouded in >>>>>>> informality. But I feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier >>>>>>> to advocate/push for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT >>>>>>> practitioners easily if we were formed in to an officially legally >>>>>>> recognized body or society. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of >>>>>>> Kenya, but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really >>>>>>> represents. To me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may >>>>>>> be) that I feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help >>>>>>> members can contribute ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Philip. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It will be done... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Watch this space.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson < >>>>>>>> lixton@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe >>>>>>>>> it to the last word. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>>>>> Wilson./ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that >>>>>>>>>> direction. If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. >>>>>>>>>> Look at what photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. >>>>>>>>>> IT hatuwezi fikria hivyo. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>> David Nyamboki >>>>>>>>>> Technical Consultant. >>>>>>>>>> 0726570919. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------Original message------ >>>>>>>>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free >>>>>>>>>> hand to engage >>>>>>>>>> the members. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi >>>>>>>>>> today.. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same >>>>>>>>>> and offer >>>>>>>>>> > members direct benefits. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group >>>>>>>>>> indicating our mission >>>>>>>>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for >>>>>>>>>> growth and taking >>>>>>>>>> > the list to another level.. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Me thoughts >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Oliver >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>>>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on >>>>>>>>>> this list so far.. >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> Curious, >>>>>>>>>> >>> Oliver >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> 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Point noted... I still need 2 minds are better than 1.. The committee does not have to meet or anything, we can work online and exchange progress on list.. I definitely need several inputs from the listers in terms of what to constitute.. we don end up like maendeleo ya wanawake na wanaume. LOL On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thats where the story will end, please dont form a committee, please pursue the dream and if you need any specific help, ask for it on list and anyone can help
./Ok3ch
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
I need to form a committee to over see this process. Admin you are a member by default.. I need volunteers.. About 5 people to start with with.. Send names..
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Josphat Karanja <karanjajf@gmail.com>wrote:
I also agree with the idea and will support it fully.
It will take care of those of us who find they cant really fit with the engineers (IEK, ERB, ERC).
Tuko pamoja
Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja,
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Great Oliver,
I think we are making headway. I am sure we have skunk lawyers here who can advise of what it take to register and operational the association.
I give moral and technical support.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Association of ICT Professionals
Just like bankers, insurers, teachers, transporters, hawkers, medics, accountants, matatu operators even clearing agents.. Why not us..?
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com>wrote:
Sometimes you are better of building your own, setting your own rules. One thing you do not want to do is inherit all the garbage accumulated in an existing group whose history you have no idea.
Build from scratch. That should be our ploy.
Oliver
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Mickey Mickey < michaelakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Oketch that is clever but how difficult is it to start one from > scratch, I believe the hardest rock is to wee the members support and > commitment. > > Best Regards, > Michael Akunga. > Freelance Research Writer, Web and App Developer > Cell No: +254 726 174 815 > E-Mail: michaelakunga@gmail.com > Skype: michaelakunga > Viber: +254 726 174 815 > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com>wrote: > >> You'll quickly realise it's the informality people like. Make it >> formal and probably get like 50 people. An occasional meeting or party >> makes sense but a formal ongoing engagement .... Not so much.. But yes by >> all means start something >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 16 Jan 2014, at 14:13, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Why can't we hijack & take over one of those bodies instead of >> building from scratch? (just a thought). We identify the body, join it >> enmass and then change it from within... >> >> ./Ok3ch >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Philip Musyoki < >> pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hence the Skunks website earlier proposed. >>> >>> But seriously, I know this idea has been discussed before and many >>> people felt that the group functions better shrouded in informality. But I >>> feel we need some sort of formalization, as it is easier to advocate/push >>> for matter concerning ICT and ourselves as ICT practitioners easily if we >>> were formed in to an officially legally recognized body or society. >>> >>> I heard before of an body known as the ICT Association of Kenya, >>> but I have my doubts as to whose interests that body really represents. To >>> me Skunkworks has, and still is the body (informal as it may be) that I >>> feel represents those int he technical ICT sector. >>> >>> Oliver, probably you should run with this. If you need help >>> members can contribute ideas. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Philip. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Oliver Ndegwa < >>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It will be done... >>>> >>>> Watch this space.. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> People say "IT gurus aren't '*good*' managers", i believe it to >>>>> the last word. >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> Wilson./ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:56, <tchadavey@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Oliver, you are not the first one to think in that direction. >>>>>> If there is a body that hard to engage are ict proffessionals. Look at what >>>>>> photographers have done opak. Look at wat doctors have done. IT hatuwezi >>>>>> fikria hivyo. >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- >>>>>> David Nyamboki >>>>>> Technical Consultant. >>>>>> 0726570919. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------Original message------ >>>>>> From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:07:02 AM GMT+0300 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Numbers >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please go right ahead and do that. I am giving you a free hand >>>>>> to engage >>>>>> the members. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 January 2014 09:03, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > That is bigger than most private club / forums in Nairobi >>>>>> today.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Don't you think it could make sense to formalize the same and >>>>>> offer >>>>>> > members direct benefits. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Probably draft a constitution that guides the group >>>>>> indicating our mission >>>>>> > and vision.. Its a new year you know! A new chance for growth >>>>>> and taking >>>>>> > the list to another level.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Me thoughts >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Oliver >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Odhiambo Washington < >>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Hi Oliver, >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> There are 1699 subscribed members as of this morning. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On 16 January 2014 08:38, Oliver Ndegwa < >>>>>> olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> ADMIN, I keep wondering how many members we have on this >>>>>> list so far.. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Curious, >>>>>> >>> Oliver >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> >>> ------------ >>>>>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> -- >>>>>> >> Best regards, >>>>>> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>>>>> >> Nairobi,KE >>>>>> >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>>>>> >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >> skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> >> ------------ >>>>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> > ------------ >>>>>> > List info, 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