Open source has all this, yet they cannot build even the most basic of systems!
According to the definition in wikipedia, "Open source code evolves through community cooperation". lol! :-) Open source software <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Open_source_software> is software whose source code is published and made available to the public, enabling anyone to copy, modify and redistribute the source code without paying royalties or fees. Open source code evolves through community cooperation. These communities are composed of individual programmers as well as very large companies. Examples of open-source software products are: [19]<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-18> - GNU Project <https://mail.google.com/wiki/GNU_Project> — “a sufficient body of free software” - FreeBSD <https://mail.google.com/wiki/FreeBSD> — operating system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Operating_system>derived from Unix <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Unix> - Alfresco <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Alfresco_(software)> — content management system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - Apache <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server> — HTTP web server - Tomcat web server <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Apache_Tomcat> — web container - Drupal <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Drupal> — content management system <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - Eclipse <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Eclipse_(software)> — software development environment comprising an integrated development environment<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Integrated_development_environment>(IDE) - Joomla <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Joomla> — content management system <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - Linux <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Linux> — operating system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Operating_system>based on Unix <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Unix> - Mediawiki <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Mediawiki> — wiki<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Wiki>server software, the software that runs Wikipedia - MongoDB <https://mail.google.com/wiki/MongoDB> — document-oriented, non-relational database - Moodle <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Moodle> — course management system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Course_management_system>or virtual learning environment<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Virtual_learning_environment> - Mozilla Firefox <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox> — web browser - Mozilla Thunderbird <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird>— e-mail client - OpenBSD <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OpenBSD> — operating system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Operating_system>derived from Unix <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Unix> - OpenOffice.org <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OpenOffice.org> — office suite - openSIS <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OpenSIS> — open source Student Information System - OpenSolaris <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OpenSolaris> — Unix Operating System from Sun Microsystems - osCommerce <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OsCommerce> — ecommerce<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Ecommerce> - PeaZip <https://mail.google.com/wiki/PeaZip> — File archiver<https://mail.google.com/wiki/File_archiver> - PHP <https://mail.google.com/wiki/PHP> - Scripting language suited for the web - RenovatioCMS <https://mail.google.com/wiki/RenovatioCMS> — content management system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - Stockfish <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Stockfish_(chess)> — chess engine <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Chess_engine> series, considered to be one of the strongest chess programs of the world - Symbian <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Symbian> — real-time<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Real-time_operating_system>mobile operating system <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Operating_system> - TYPO3 <https://mail.google.com/wiki/TYPO3> — content management system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - WordPress <https://mail.google.com/wiki/WordPress> — blog software<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Blog_software> - 7-Zip <https://mail.google.com/wiki/7-Zip> — File archiver<https://mail.google.com/wiki/File_archiver> - *Many, many more* --- Saidia-Ohh-Saidia Apps Made in KE aka Mkate Nusu---
I know and have worked with mission critical systems built entirely using open source tools and apps....but I get your drift :-) bernard *whathaveIdonetoday?* On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:06 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
According to the definition in wikipedia, "Open source code evolves through community cooperation". lol! :-)
Open source software <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Open_source_software>is software whose source code is published and made available to the public, enabling anyone to copy, modify and redistribute the source code without paying royalties or fees. Open source code evolves through community cooperation. These communities are composed of individual programmers as well as very large companies. Examples of open-source software products are:[19]<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-18>
- GNU Project <https://mail.google.com/wiki/GNU_Project> — “a sufficient body of free software” - FreeBSD <https://mail.google.com/wiki/FreeBSD> — operating system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Operating_system>derived from Unix <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Unix> - Alfresco <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Alfresco_(software)> — content management system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - Apache <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server> — HTTP web server - Tomcat web server <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Apache_Tomcat> — web container - Drupal <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Drupal> — content management system <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - Eclipse <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Eclipse_(software)> — software development environment comprising an integrated development environment<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Integrated_development_environment>(IDE) - Joomla <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Joomla> — content management system <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - Linux <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Linux> — operating system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Operating_system>based on Unix <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Unix> - Mediawiki <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Mediawiki> — wiki<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Wiki>server software, the software that runs Wikipedia - MongoDB <https://mail.google.com/wiki/MongoDB> — document-oriented, non-relational database - Moodle <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Moodle> — course management system <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Course_management_system> or virtual learning environment<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Virtual_learning_environment> - Mozilla Firefox <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox> — web browser - Mozilla Thunderbird<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird>— e-mail client - OpenBSD <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OpenBSD> — operating system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Operating_system>derived from Unix <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Unix> - OpenOffice.org <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OpenOffice.org> — office suite - openSIS <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OpenSIS> — open source Student Information System - OpenSolaris <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OpenSolaris> — Unix Operating System from Sun Microsystems - osCommerce <https://mail.google.com/wiki/OsCommerce> — ecommerce<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Ecommerce> - PeaZip <https://mail.google.com/wiki/PeaZip> — File archiver<https://mail.google.com/wiki/File_archiver> - PHP <https://mail.google.com/wiki/PHP> - Scripting language suited for the web - RenovatioCMS <https://mail.google.com/wiki/RenovatioCMS> — content management system<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - Stockfish <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Stockfish_(chess)> — chess engine <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Chess_engine> series, considered to be one of the strongest chess programs of the world - Symbian <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Symbian> — real-time<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Real-time_operating_system>mobile operating system <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Operating_system> - TYPO3 <https://mail.google.com/wiki/TYPO3> — content management system <https://mail.google.com/wiki/Content_management_system> - WordPress <https://mail.google.com/wiki/WordPress> — blog software<https://mail.google.com/wiki/Blog_software> - 7-Zip <https://mail.google.com/wiki/7-Zip> — File archiver<https://mail.google.com/wiki/File_archiver> - *Many, many more*
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@Bernard, thanks for the reminder of the old thread. Looking back, I should have gone more deeper into the commerce and business aspect that Open Source represents, and I now realize that had I been a strong supporter of the unix kernel, I woud have been a very strong advocate for the Free Software Foundation and not Open Source. Open Source bottomline is a business as much as proprietary, thus it must stop pretending to be what it is. It all ties up now. Is proprietary software really the evil that they market it as? I hardly think so. I think it is time it should face the full competitive sword of the propreitary software industry, no holds barred. Unfortunately am no big propreitary developer nor have the financial capacity to do so, I would start this war. So in the meantime, I'm going to become a propreitary software advocate activist.... :-)) Have a nice wekend. Rgds. On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
I know and have worked with mission critical systems built entirely using open source tools and apps....but I get your drift :-)
bernard
Personally I think being entirely one of entirely the other is artificially crippling yourself. This makes no sense to me. There is no law that says it must be an either-or. On Sunday, November 20, 2011, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Bernard, thanks for the reminder of the old thread. Looking back, I should have gone more deeper into the commerce and business aspect that Open Source represents, and I now realize that had I been a strong supporter of the unix kernel, I woud have been a very strong advocate for the Free Software Foundation and not Open Source.
Open Source bottomline is a business as much as proprietary, thus it must stop pretending to be what it is. It all ties up now. Is proprietary software really the evil that they market it as? I hardly think so. I think it is time it should face the full competitive sword of the propreitary software industry, no holds barred. Unfortunately am no big propreitary developer nor have the financial capacity to do so, I would start this war. So in the meantime, I'm going to become a propreitary software advocate activist.... :-))
Have a nice wekend.
Rgds.
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
I know and have worked with mission critical systems built entirely
using open source tools and apps....but I get your drift :-)
bernard
@Rad, not to be too spammy, I totally respect an individual's personal choice of what they like to do in the software industry. That is not even for discussion. However, on a commerce level, I don't know how many software developers realise that when the giants fight it it the ground that suffers. My gut instinct has always been correct on this industry and thus now understand why we lack a serious software development commercial sector. And it will not happen until we don't choose sides and go for trying to better one another. If I was good at software development, I can assure you one of my first targets would have been to replace what Open Source offers, the same strategy that it is using to compete with other markets. Infact, I read that Ubuntu's development model is driven by what Microsoft does thus the frequent releases. Me thots and corrections welcome. :-) On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I think being entirely one of entirely the other is artificially crippling yourself.
This makes no sense to me. There is no law that says it must be an either-or.
I don't know about a serious software development commercial sector, but I can tell you for a fact that there are several software companies doing some pretty impressive work On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:03 AM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@Rad, not to be too spammy, I totally respect an individual's personal choice of what they like to do in the software industry. That is not even for discussion. However, on a commerce level, I don't know how many software developers realise that when the giants fight it it the ground that suffers. My gut instinct has always been correct on this industry and thus now understand why we lack a serious software development commercial sector. And it will not happen until we don't choose sides and go for trying to better one another. If I was good at software development, I can assure you one of my first targets would have been to replace what Open Source offers, the same strategy that it is using to compete with other markets. Infact, I read that Ubuntu's development model is driven by what Microsoft does thus the frequent releases. Me thots and corrections welcome. :-)
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Personally I think being entirely one of entirely the other is artificially crippling yourself.
This makes no sense to me. There is no law that says it must be an either-or.
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@Rad, the same way say CRM would be a target for both sectors, what are these companies working on? Opening new avenues for consumers or competing for the narrow market segment where they will loose out to already created software. Kindly elaborate more. :-) On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know about a serious software development commercial sector, but I can tell you for a fact that there are several software companies doing some pretty impressive work
what did he mean by the most basic of systems? _______________________________________________ *Good judgement comes from Experience.* *Most of that comes from Bad Judgement.* _______________________________________________ * * 2011/11/20 aki <aki275@gmail.com>
@Rad, the same way say CRM would be a target for both sectors, what are these companies working on? Opening new avenues for consumers or competing for the narrow market segment where they will loose out to already created software. Kindly elaborate more. :-)
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know about a serious software development commercial sector, but I can tell you for a fact that there are several software companies doing some pretty impressive work
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