
I rilly want to know, or rather understand. How does this per MB billing work? Are you billed exactly per uploaded and downloaded amount of data,or how is it. Because on my EVDO modem if I check the amount of data transfered(downloaded and uploaded), Its not equal to the No. of MBs im considered to have used. Its slightly more. Which data is rily billed or how is it done. And if I buy a 250MB bundle and download a software worth 250 MB, will my account be reading nil in terms of MB remaing.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Omondi douglas<ombokdouglas@gmail.com> wrote:
I rilly want to know, or rather understand. How does this per MB billing work? Are you billed exactly per uploaded and downloaded amount of data,or how is it. Because on my EVDO modem if I check the amount of data transfered(downloaded and uploaded), Its not equal to the No. of MBs im considered to have used. Its slightly more. Which data is rily billed or how is it done. And if I buy a 250MB bundle and download a software worth 250 MB, will my account be reading nil in terms of MB remaing.
Perhaps some better questions would have been...? 1) Are carriers themselves charged pay per MB or fixed per month? 2) Do they then hoard their bandwidth -create an artificial shortage? 3) Confuse everyone with zillions of 'packages'? :( :( :( :( :( :( very sad indeed!

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Omondi douglas <ombokdouglas@gmail.com>wrote:
I rilly want to know, or rather understand. How does this per MB billing work? Are you billed exactly per uploaded and downloaded amount of data,or how is it. Because on my EVDO modem if I check the amount of data transfered(downloaded and uploaded), Its not equal to the No. of MBs im considered to have used. Its slightly more. Which data is rily billed or how is it done. And if I buy a 250MB bundle and download a software worth 250 MB, will my account be reading nil in terms of MB remaing.
@Douglas. Though my answer is of no help at the moment, I'm working on writing a c# program for this specific use. The program will be based on windows tcp/ip packets and possibly later octets, and will query the MBytes in either direction, save the stats results of daily/monthly, including a refresh when you topup. I hope at some stage to try and get it certified by some authorities as a MByte meter. The program hopefully will be offered for free as a courtesy to kenyan internet users. Some months still to go on completion, will update when its done. The program will be posted on my web portal.

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM, aki<aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
writing a c# program for this specific use. The program will be based on windows tcp/ip packets and possibly later octets, and will query the MBytes in either direction, save the stats results of daily/monthly, including a refresh when you topup. I hope at some stage to try and get it certified by some authorities as a MByte meter. The program hopefully will be offered for free as a courtesy to kenyan internet users. Some months still to go on completion, will update when its done. The program will be posted on my web portal.
haiyaaa! Let's talk... I'll lobby for it's certification at KEBS as a standard! Perhaps call it "MBytetometer"? They better realise that "code is law":)

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
haiyaaa! Let's talk... I'll lobby for it's certification at KEBS as a standard!
Perhaps call it "MBytetometer"? They better realise that "code is law":)
@Alex, Im pretty serious on this, dont mind it being called anything. Will be intouch with you when have a prototype program running and seeking certification guidance. Asante. :-)

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, aki<aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
haiyaaa! Let's talk... I'll lobby for it's certification at KEBS as a standard!
Perhaps call it "MBytetometer"? They better realise that "code is law":)
@Alex, Im pretty serious on this, dont mind it being called anything. Will be intouch with you when have a prototype program running and seeking certification guidance. Asante. :-)
I am darn serious myself too. Soon joining COPOLCO at KEBS <http://www.iso.org/iso/standards_development/technical_committees/other_bodies/iso_technical_committee.htm?commid=55000>

Come to think of it, do telcos charge an MB as 1000 or 1024 KBs? On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, aki<aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
haiyaaa! Let's talk... I'll lobby for it's certification at KEBS as a standard!
Perhaps call it "MBytetometer"? They better realise that "code is law":)
@Alex, Im pretty serious on this, dont mind it being called anything. Will be intouch with you when have a prototype program running and seeking certification guidance. Asante. :-)
I am darn serious myself too. Soon joining COPOLCO at KEBS < http://www.iso.org/iso/standards_development/technical_committees/other_bodi...
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
haiyaaa! Let's talk... I'll lobby for it's certification at KEBS as a standard!
Perhaps call it "MBytetometer"? They better realise that "code is law":)
@Alex, Im pretty serious on this, dont mind it being called anything. Will be intouch with you when have a prototype program running and seeking certification guidance. Asante. :-)
And incase any skunks have some personal time to spare and are c# code gurus, then I guess an email *team effort* can make this project happen very soon ( since Im still green and discovering my way.... ) for the benefit of internet kenyans so that some will think hard about what happens when you push tech people too far. Anyone is welcome to share their thots and make this project possible. As I'm already doing this solo, a prototype completion is sometime early march next year but I also believe in team work. And other gurus who are good at linux programming can port the meter to work on say eg ubuntu etc. Your thots, programmers... :-)

Don't worry about the Linux port. *nix can run C# code using the Mono runtime. Of course if you use Windows specific APIs using interop, that's a whole different kettle of fish. I wouldn't mind helping you out. Do you have a design or spec that you can share? On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:26 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
haiyaaa! Let's talk... I'll lobby for it's certification at KEBS as a standard!
Perhaps call it "MBytetometer"? They better realise that "code is law":)
@Alex, Im pretty serious on this, dont mind it being called anything. Will be intouch with you when have a prototype program running and seeking certification guidance. Asante. :-)
And incase any skunks have some personal time to spare and are c# code gurus, then I guess an email *team effort* can make this project happen very soon ( since Im still green and discovering my way.... ) for the benefit of internet kenyans so that some will think hard about what happens when you push tech people too far. Anyone is welcome to share their thots and make this project possible. As I'm already doing this solo, a prototype completion is sometime early march next year but I also believe in team work. And other gurus who are good at linux programming can port the meter to work on say eg ubuntu etc.
Your thots, programmers... :-)
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't worry about the Linux port. *nix can run C# code using the Mono runtime. Of course if you use Windows specific APIs using interop, that's a whole different kettle of fish. I wouldn't mind helping you out. Do you have a design or spec that you can share?
@Rad, will send some info tomorrow. Windows API is WMI though you may know more which is the best suited API. :-) Rgds.

No prob. Just send the design and we can brainstorm on the best approach On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:52 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't worry about the Linux port. *nix can run C# code using the Mono runtime. Of course if you use Windows specific APIs using interop, that's a whole different kettle of fish. I wouldn't mind helping you out. Do you have a design or spec that you can share?
@Rad, will send some info tomorrow. Windows API is WMI though you may know more which is the best suited API. :-)
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for the 250 mb program, the answer is no. you did not account for over heads such as establishment and maintenance of connection ,errors. Ifconfig jogs data per session in linux, webmin keeps tabs of all data transfer and can display hourly, daily and monthly transfers. You can compare it with what you were billed. On 08/09/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
No prob. Just send the design and we can brainstorm on the best approach
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:52 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't worry about the Linux port. *nix can run C# code using the Mono runtime. Of course if you use Windows specific APIs using interop, that's a whole different kettle of fish. I wouldn't mind helping you out. Do you have a design or spec that you can share?
@Rad, will send some info tomorrow. Windows API is WMI though you may know more which is the best suited API. :-)
Rgds.
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Ok guyz that Idea of MBytetometer is good but im not getting an answer. Anybody out there knows how exactly per MB billing is done?

I believe your answer sits in the terms of service, Legal talk allows anyone to say anything as long as they explain it in detail in the legal documents. I agree with Dennis the data your app reads is at application level, allot more data is consumed by underlying technologies. I would like to ask Networking experts to detail how or whether the data rates between two nodes would tally, this is in reference to ack's, retries, dropped packets e.t.c When you buy data packages locally (except saf) you pay against speed 10k for 64kbps, abroad (read online) you buy in data bundles e.g. 2TB transfer / month. I would guess ISP/s pay for data bundles not speed. Ashford K. Joan Crawford<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joan_crawford.html> - "I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar. Everything I earn, I spend."
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