
It occurs to me (after a spell of burying my head in some sand) that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems (who in turn had bought MySQL). I have several issues in my head that are struggling to find words: 1) that Jonathan Schwatz, my favorite CEO blogger, is moving on (this is just that sentimental clinging - "don't go!") but more importantly 2) this buy-out may signify the end of Open Source as we know it. What is Kenya's position on the matter? I imagine that this has been discussed in the technology policy circles? Al Kags ----------------------- Author, Living Memories. “IF THERE IS SUCH A THING AS Kenya, these stories belong to us all, just as the pictures in Kenya Burning document the trauma of a nation during the post-election violence. The age of history written by white males is well and truly over.” - Star Columnist, Betty Caplan in the East African Weekly Newspaper. http://living.alkags.com

Save MySQL, Sign the petition @ http://www.helpmysql.org/en/petition Regards, Albert. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me (after a spell of burying my head in some sand) that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems (who in turn had bought MySQL). I have several issues in my head that are struggling to find words: 1) that Jonathan Schwatz, my favorite CEO blogger, is moving on (this is just that sentimental clinging - "don't go!") but more importantly 2) this buy-out may signify the end of Open Source as we know it.
What is Kenya's position on the matter? I imagine that this has been discussed in the technology policy circles?
Al Kags ----------------------- Author, Living Memories. “IF THERE IS SUCH A THING AS Kenya, these stories belong to us all, just as the pictures in Kenya Burning document the trauma of a nation during the post-election violence. The age of history written by white males is well and truly over.” - Star Columnist, Betty Caplan in the East African Weekly Newspaper.
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I'll take number 2. I don't think open source is ending any time soon, neither is commercial software for that matter. There are a few other very popular open source softwares out there, Apache comes to mind. I am also pretty sure that the success of MySQL can be replicated in another product, either existing or not. Did the EU finally approve this buyout? On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me (after a spell of burying my head in some sand) that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems (who in turn had bought MySQL). I have several issues in my head that are struggling to find words: 1) that Jonathan Schwatz, my favorite CEO blogger, is moving on (this is just that sentimental clinging - "don't go!") but more importantly 2) this buy-out may signify the end of Open Source as we know it.
What is Kenya's position on the matter? I imagine that this has been discussed in the technology policy circles?
Al Kags ----------------------- Author, Living Memories. “IF THERE IS SUCH A THING AS Kenya, these stories belong to us all, just as the pictures in Kenya Burning document the trauma of a nation during the post-election violence. The age of history written by white males is well and truly over.” - Star Columnist, Betty Caplan in the East African Weekly Newspaper.
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Yep, the EU approved the deal European Commission Approves Oracle-Sun Deal | John Paczkowski ...<http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100121/eu-approves-oracle-sun-deal/> Smart money is for developers to look at a fork of MySQL or better yet PostgreSQL On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I'll take number 2. I don't think open source is ending any time soon, neither is commercial software for that matter. There are a few other very popular open source softwares out there, Apache comes to mind. I am also pretty sure that the success of MySQL can be replicated in another product, either existing or not.
Did the EU finally approve this buyout?

It is not the end of Open Source, rather the end of Jonathan 'My Little Poney' Shwartz and Scott McNealy as we know them.

Someone on Kictanet just said this to me.. Al Kags, Its not such a bad thing and I would grieve so much about this transaction. Of course even Oracle still gives out the XE edition ( http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html) for free the free version of their multimillion $$ Oracle database and MySQL standard edition is still there to save us. Taking away MySQL off the picture leaves us with the very powerful PostgreSQL (http://www.postgresql.org/) so for now am still not crying so much. The time to go scream over my pillow is yet to come but as a precaution am downloading everything opensource and keeping it in my small data centre for future use when people are acquired. Al Kags ----------------------- Author, Living Memories. “IF THERE IS SUCH A THING AS Kenya, these stories belong to us all, just as the pictures in Kenya Burning document the trauma of a nation during the post-election violence. The age of history written by white males is well and truly over.” - Star Columnist, Betty Caplan in the East African Weekly Newspaper. http://living.alkags.com On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
It is not the end of Open Source, rather the end of Jonathan 'My Little Poney' Shwartz and Scott McNealy as we know them.
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
Taking away MySQL off the picture leaves us with the very powerful PostgreSQL (http://www.postgresql.org/) so for now am still not crying so much. The time to go scream over my pillow is yet to come but as a precaution am downloading everything opensource and keeping it in my small data centre for future use when people are acquired.
Even if oracle does anything to mysql (like changing the license) ... the source code until that point is open source and it will get forked. The viral nature of the open source license ensures survival.

I think your friend can save his/her bandwidth because whatever happens to MySQL under Oracle, existing versions of MySQL cannot be retroactively changed to include non-opensource licenses. It is within their rights, however, to change the licenses of *future* MySQL releases. Secondly, as a major opensource product, MySQL binaries are distributed in far more places than from MySQL.com (for instance, most *nix users get theirs from their respective distribution repositories - Fedora, Gentoo, Ubuntu etc etc). Thirdly, as the digital world slowly moves to "big data", relational databases will slowly become obsolete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoSQL) - a very welcome development for anyone who has had to deal with *SQL clustering and replication. Saidi On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
but as a precaution am downloading everything opensource and keeping it in my small data centre for future use when people are acquired.

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone on Kictanet just said this to me..
Al Kags,
...
The time to go scream over my pillow is yet to come but as a precaution am downloading everything opensource and keeping it in my small data centre for future use when people are acquired.
LOL

postgres - feels exactly like SQL, and its easily downloadable for both Unix and Windows -- so all is not lost !!

For those planing to use PostgreSQL, you can download the Free EnterpriseDB studio which is a good application for management of PostgreSQL. It is not advisable to install PostgreSQL using your distribution installers such as yum and apt-get. This is because PostgreSQL will be automatically upgraded , and this changes the database version ; at the moment, database versions are not backwards compatible and you have to manually transfer your data from one database version to another. that is why its easier and better to use EnterpriseDB

this buy-out may signify the end of Open Source as we know it.
Al Kags, just curious: what makes you say so? Saidi On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Al Kags <alkags@gmail.com> wrote:
It occurs to me (after a spell of burying my head in some sand) that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems (who in turn had bought MySQL). I have several issues in my head that are struggling to find words: 1) that Jonathan Schwatz, my favorite CEO blogger, is moving on (this is just that sentimental clinging - "don't go!") but more importantly 2) this buy-out may signify the end of Open Source as we know it.
What is Kenya's position on the matter? I imagine that this has been discussed in the technology policy circles?
Al Kags ----------------------- Author, Living Memories. “IF THERE IS SUCH A THING AS Kenya, these stories belong to us all, just as the pictures in Kenya Burning document the trauma of a nation during the post-election violence. The age of history written by white males is well and truly over.” - Star Columnist, Betty Caplan in the East African Weekly Newspaper.
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