Telecoms firms secure five global internet paths?????
Who is fooling who? http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/684036/-/u5bl...
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Who is fooling who?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/684036/-/u5bl...
@Mambo, thnks much for the article, you made my day... :-))))) Kweli, ati sharks? LOL!!!!! What about the "sharks" along the national route? I'm not even going to comment on the international routes as they are not even worth considering if SHARKS take regular BITES along the national fiber network. I cannot stop laughing at this poor PR excercise, which I think the story line should have been about TATA, due to its local pop with AK, securing different redundancy routes. Ok, now comes the real question. The key argument about pricing was that investments need returns, so where did AK, UUnet get the capital to take up different guaranteed routes at SLAs, let alone even one? The cat is out of the bag....... Hehehe... :-) me thots and a big disclaimer : corrections welcome.
Hello Aki, Check this out: http://www.google.co.ke/search?q=sharks+attacking +undersea +cables&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a -----Original Message----- From: aki <aki275@googlemail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Telecoms firms secure five global internet paths????? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:40:59 +0300 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote: Who is fooling who? http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company% 20Industry/-/539550/684036/-/u5blyuz/-/index.html @Mambo, thnks much for the article, you made my day... :-))))) Kweli, ati sharks? LOL!!!!! What about the "sharks" along the national route? I'm not even going to comment on the international routes as they are not even worth considering if SHARKS take regular BITES along the national fiber network. I cannot stop laughing at this poor PR excercise, which I think the story line should have been about TATA, due to its local pop with AK, securing different redundancy routes. Ok, now comes the real question. The key argument about pricing was that investments need returns, so where did AK, UUnet get the capital to take up different guaranteed routes at SLAs, let alone even one? The cat is out of the bag....... Hehehe... :-) me thots and a big disclaimer : corrections welcome. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Regards, Joe Linux User: #361092 SIP: joe.njeru@ekiga.net
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Joe Murithi Njeru <joe.njeru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Aki,
Check this out: http://www.google.co.ke/search?q=sharks+attacking +undersea
+cables&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
@Joe, there's even an article " how stuff works " on shark attacks!! lol!!! :-)))))) On the page above, there's a youtube video on a shark diving out of water... with something in its jaws! Ahhh, I can hear the famous JAWS music ..... hehehehe.
The lengths to which Marketing and PR guys are willing to go to make a point always shocks me! Sharks??? Birates Terrorists seems to me a more likely risk! On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Joe Murithi Njeru <joe.njeru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hello Aki,
Check this out: http://www.google.co.ke/search?q=sharks+attacking +undersea
+cables&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
@Joe, there's even an article " how stuff works " on shark attacks!! lol!!! :-)))))) On the page above, there's a youtube video on a shark diving out of water... with something in its jaws!
Ahhh, I can hear the famous JAWS music ..... hehehehe.
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have a look at this: http://www.tscm.com/phone/oceanic_cable.html but the obvious cluelessness between differences za fiber-optics na copper is apparent. - magnetic fields around copper? yes. around fiber? huh!. - electrocution by copper? yes. by fiber? huh! seems some people will grasp at any straws On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Joe Murithi Njeru <joe.njeru@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Aki,
Check this out: http://www.google.co.ke/search?q=sharks+attacking +undersea
+cables&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
-----Original Message----- From: aki <aki275@googlemail.com> Reply-to: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Telecoms firms secure five global internet paths????? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:40:59 +0300
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote: Who is fooling who?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company% 20Industry/-/539550/684036/-/u5blyuz/-/index.html
@Mambo, thnks much for the article, you made my day... :-))))) Kweli, ati sharks? LOL!!!!! What about the "sharks" along the national route? I'm not even going to comment on the international routes as they are not even worth considering if SHARKS take regular BITES along the national fiber network. I cannot stop laughing at this poor PR excercise, which I think the story line should have been about TATA, due to its local pop with AK, securing different redundancy routes.
Ok, now comes the real question. The key argument about pricing was that investments need returns, so where did AK, UUnet get the capital to take up different guaranteed routes at SLAs, let alone even one? The cat is out of the bag.......
Hehehe... :-)
me thots and a big disclaimer : corrections welcome.
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Sharks getting vitamin supplements from fibre optics! EnLIGHTened sharks maybe! If I drop my techie hat and put on my business hat, I can understand why the service providers would rather double the bandwidth as opposed to slashing the price: It guarantees their existing revenues.And halving the price would mean they need to double their customer base to retain their revenues. No easy task. Return On Investment is the only reason people do business. No returns no business. I fault them for wanting immediate returns. @Mutua, why are u feeling like u are being fooled? Looks like a fair article to me. On 11/10/09, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
Who is fooling who?
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/684036/-/u5bl...
@Mambo, thnks much for the article, you made my day... :-))))) Kweli, ati sharks? LOL!!!!! What about the "sharks" along the national route? I'm not even going to comment on the international routes as they are not even worth considering if SHARKS take regular BITES along the national fiber network. I cannot stop laughing at this poor PR excercise, which I think the story line should have been about TATA, due to its local pop with AK, securing different redundancy routes.
Ok, now comes the real question. The key argument about pricing was that investments need returns, so where did AK, UUnet get the capital to take up different guaranteed routes at SLAs, let alone even one? The cat is out of the bag.......
Hehehe... :-)
me thots and a big disclaimer : corrections welcome.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Sharks getting vitamin supplements from fibre optics! EnLIGHTened sharks maybe!
If I drop my techie hat and put on my business hat, I can understand why the service providers would rather double the bandwidth as opposed to slashing the price: It guarantees their existing revenues.And halving the price would mean they need to double their customer base to retain their revenues.
@John Doe ( MIA ) :-)))) Pls note that KDN ( Im not marketing for them nor am affiliated with them) has gone crazy with their offers. If you bought 2Mbit/s from them ( @1200usd ) , they have increased that by 4 TIMES! . So, KDN now offering 8 Mb/s on the same price as at 2 Mb/s! I know this has already happened, but anyone can confirm this. That story of double bandwidth is all but forgotten. :-) Me thots, using disclaimer....
@ John Doe This is my take why I feel fooled: 1. How many routes do we have to the coast leave alone to Fujairah 2. None of these ISPs owns a metro fibre leave alone national (Heard AK's is just some empty pipes) 3. THIS IS A BIG JOKE C'mon guys, find some better stuff to tell kenyans. @Aki.... FYI, am doing 24mbps as we talk on KDN BUTTERFLY WIFI for only Ksh 1999 pm. What else do I need? ...heard that they've opened up their limiters. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:04 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Sharks getting vitamin supplements from fibre optics! EnLIGHTened sharks maybe!
If I drop my techie hat and put on my business hat, I can understand why the service providers would rather double the bandwidth as opposed to slashing the price: It guarantees their existing revenues.And halving the price would mean they need to double their customer base to retain their revenues.
@John Doe ( MIA ) :-))))
Pls note that KDN ( Im not marketing for them nor am affiliated with them) has gone crazy with their offers. If you bought 2Mbit/s from them ( @1200usd ) , they have increased that by 4 TIMES! . So, KDN now offering 8 Mb/s on the same price as at 2 Mb/s!
I know this has already happened, but anyone can confirm this. That story of double bandwidth is all but forgotten. :-)
Me thots, using disclaimer....
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:56 PM, mambo mutua <am.mambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Aki.... FYI, am doing 24mbps as we talk on KDN BUTTERFLY WIFI for only Ksh 1999 pm. What else do I need? ...heard that they've opened up their limiters.
@Mambo, that would mean your data connection averages about 100KB/s to
300KB/s inbound/outbound? Wooaaa........! Dude, now thats serious *SHARK BAIT for only Ksh 1999pm* ! :-))))) IMHO, KDN seem to be the only genuine ones with the fiber pricing. Ok, so 600USD/Mbit is still expensive but compared to 7000USD/Mbit that's a big drop. Then with their new offer now of 4times the bandwidth, so 1Mbit/s = 4Mbit/s at same price is even better. KDN needs one last step towards really bringing the services to kenyans. Offer Contented Internet bandwidth = cheaper access. Me thots and disclaimer : corrections welcome.
And in more news, Sharks are attracted to under sea fiber optic cable due to ...<cough>The cable emitts electromagnetic signals </cough>. TRUE or FALSE? :-)))))
I would go for FALSE!!! Fibre optic signals are light pulses and not electricity hence no electromagnetic pulses hence sharks can go about there usual business of getting their high from boats and ships. SKYPE: sobbayi US: +1 202 297 6831 +1 202 470 0525 KE: +254 722 627 691 http://blog.sobbayi.com http://sobbayi.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "aki" <aki275@googlemail.com> To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:32:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Telecoms firms secure five global internet paths????? And in more news, Sharks are attracted to under sea fiber optic cable due to ...<cough>The cable emitts electromagnetic signals </cough>. TRUE or FALSE? :-))))) __________________
i suppose they could probably argue its the bright light pulses that attract them...kind of like moths to a light bulb... On 10/11/2009, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
I would go for FALSE!!! Fibre optic signals are light pulses and not electricity hence no electromagnetic pulses hence sharks can go about there usual business of getting their high from boats and ships.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "aki" <aki275@googlemail.com> To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:32:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Telecoms firms secure five global internet paths?????
And in more news, Sharks are attracted to under sea fiber optic cable due to ...<cough>The cable emitts electromagnetic signals </cough>. TRUE or FALSE? :-))))) __________________ _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
I would go for FALSE!!! Fibre optic signals are light pulses and not electricity hence no electromagnetic pulses...
Steve, I thought light was an electromagnetic radiation, in the same family as gamma rays, x-rays and radio signals? Ama my memory fails me? :-) Here<http://library.thinkquest.org/27356/p_index.htm>and here <http://library.thinkquest.org/27356/p_spectrum.htm>
hehehe funny - light has electromagnetic radiation eh? - tihihihihi Mblayo On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
I would go for FALSE!!! Fibre optic signals are light pulses and not electricity hence no electromagnetic pulses...
Steve, I thought light was an electromagnetic radiation, in the same family as gamma rays, x-rays and radio signals? Ama my memory fails me? :-) Here<http://library.thinkquest.org/27356/p_index.htm>and here <http://library.thinkquest.org/27356/p_spectrum.htm>
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