Kenyan pupils second to Mauritius in Maths?

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Kenyan+pupils+top+in+Africa+/-/1056/1286490/-/c... There are lies, damn lies and dreamed up numbers being passed as statistics. I think this is the archetypical case of : - Bad sampling - Guessing numbers based on other numbers that ought to be correlated but they aren't (HDI for example). The average standard 8 student would beat the average O level student in Mauritius. An average O level student there wouldn't know what to do with long division or long multiplication .

Laban just read the article, there is very little on it that alludes to your assertions, or maybe am missing something. Have compared std 8 n Mauritius O level student or it's just a hunch? I however agree that some research at useless Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Laban Mwangi <lmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Kenyan+pupils+top+in+Africa+/-/1056/1286490/-/c...
There are lies, damn lies and dreamed up numbers being passed as statistics. I think this is the archetypical case of : - Bad sampling - Guessing numbers based on other numbers that ought to be correlated but they aren't (HDI for example).
The average standard 8 student would beat the average O level student in Mauritius. An average O level student there wouldn't know what to do with long division or long multiplication . _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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I have tutored some students there... I think that counts? On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Jared Koyier <jaredkoyier@gmail.com> wrote:
Laban
just read the article, there is very little on it that alludes to your assertions, or maybe am missing something.
Have compared std 8 n Mauritius O level student or it's just a hunch?
I however agree that some research at useless
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 9, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Laban Mwangi <lmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Kenyan+pupils+top+in+Africa+/-/1056/1286490/-/c...
There are lies, damn lies and dreamed up numbers being passed as statistics. I think this is the archetypical case of : - Bad sampling - Guessing numbers based on other numbers that ought to be correlated but they aren't (HDI for example).
The average standard 8 student would beat the average O level student in Mauritius. An average O level student there wouldn't know what to do with long division or long multiplication .
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It's not if the student is a top student (way above average) in a way above average school. On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:28 PM, <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Laban Mwangi <lmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
I have tutored some students
Isnt that still your experience on a "bad sampling" ...?
there... I think that counts?
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Its also interesting that Kenyan students have poorer reading skills compared Tanzanian students. Ah well. Since we don't know the methodology used...... On 12/9/11, ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info <ashok+skunkworks@parliaments.info> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Laban Mwangi <lmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
I have tutored some students
Isnt that still your experience on a "bad sampling" ...?
there... I think that counts?
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On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, John Doe <fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
Its also interesting that Kenyan students have poorer reading skills compared Tanzanian students. Ah well. Since we don't know the methodology used......
I once heard a school teacher's opinion that language skills, both spoken and written, are being badly eroded by Sheng in Kenya. He explained that when pupils relate their spoken language strictly to how they'd write, it helps. I would tend to agree. BR, S -- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.
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