How Android lost global open market share to Apple's integrated iOS
Its a long article, by an Apple insider, so am sure some of the Droid-heads here won't read it, but my salient lines from it are: ".......Google's free Android software has facilitated the rapid development of hardware products. But it isn't doing this very successfully, because the majority of Android licensees are losing money on Android hardware (including Google itself) because the products Android helps to "innovate" are not compelling enough to attract premium buyers" ".....while Google and its Android partners would love to have a larger cut of the lucrative, premium phone market, they have simply been unable to deliver products that the market desires, with the notable exception of Samsung. And Samsung's success hasn't been due to using Android; it's quite clearly due to using Apple's designs<http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/11/13/samsung-no-disputing-we-sold-apples-property-and-owe-a-huge-sum-of-money> ." "The reality is that Android isn't taking share from Apple; it's falling to maintain the dominant share position Sun's Java Mobile once held, and it's having to do this via desperate volume plays involving loss leaders or the razor thin margins of low end product categories that Apple isn't even bothering to address......." Full article - http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/03/14/how-android-lost-global-open-marke... ./Ok3ch
Lol, nice way to start the weekend. I wonder what Martin Gicheru's thoughts on this matter will be... On Mar 15, 2014 1:21 PM, "Okechukwu" <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Its a long article, by an Apple insider, so am sure some of the Droid-heads here won't read it, but my salient lines from it are:
".......Google's free Android software has facilitated the rapid development of hardware products. But it isn't doing this very successfully, because the majority of Android licensees are losing money on Android hardware (including Google itself) because the products Android helps to "innovate" are not compelling enough to attract premium buyers"
".....while Google and its Android partners would love to have a larger cut of the lucrative, premium phone market, they have simply been unable to deliver products that the market desires, with the notable exception of Samsung. And Samsung's success hasn't been due to using Android; it's quite clearly due to using Apple's designs<http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/11/13/samsung-no-disputing-we-sold-apples-property-and-owe-a-huge-sum-of-money> ."
"The reality is that Android isn't taking share from Apple; it's falling to maintain the dominant share position Sun's Java Mobile once held, and it's having to do this via desperate volume plays involving loss leaders or the razor thin margins of low end product categories that Apple isn't even bothering to address......."
Full article - http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/03/14/how-android-lost-global-open-marke...
./Ok3ch
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So this guy is proud that it costs Apple less than $200 to make an iPhone but that they sell it for $700 to a "premium market" ? Motorola had the misfortune of choosing who it wants to sell to, like HTC. They were selling good Android handsets to "premium market" that already owns iPhones. Most of the Android market does not have access to Motorola handsets, Nexus handsets or HTC. I will also go ahead and assume the likes of Tecno are losing money according to the insider, unless they get in the "premium space." Android biggest issue is that of upselling, where manufacturers want to engage in a wasteful habit of selling you a new smartphone every few years for you to enjoy a better experience. Google does it too by refusing to support Nexus handsets beyond 18 months. Samsung does it with the Galaxy SIII, S4 and S5 by delaying release of software to older versions. I don't see the point of the article besides it proclaiming Apple has survived Android while convincing people to spend a premium on the handset. It's good to have both Apple and Android there, no need fighting. Someone might like Apple cause it gives them the feeling of preimumness while I may decide to settle on Android because I hate task switching (I actually hate task switching, prefer multi tasking). Also, Motorola had fingerprint recognition (albeit poor implementation) before iPhone. The assumption that iPhone is premium has also resulted in a bad habit of iOS apps being ported to android the developers ignoring the feature set in Andoid and limiting the app to the featureset of iOS. Malware on Android is more by design than by the OS being of poor quality. There is also lots of way to gain access to your data rather than malware as has been demonstrated in the number of hacked firms in the last year. -- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
An article from Apple Insider trashing Android? Shocking! On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
So this guy is proud that it costs Apple less than $200 to make an iPhone but that they sell it for $700 to a "premium market" ?
Motorola had the misfortune of choosing who it wants to sell to, like HTC. They were selling good Android handsets to "premium market" that already owns iPhones.
Most of the Android market does not have access to Motorola handsets, Nexus handsets or HTC.
I will also go ahead and assume the likes of Tecno are losing money according to the insider, unless they get in the "premium space."
Android biggest issue is that of upselling, where manufacturers want to engage in a wasteful habit of selling you a new smartphone every few years for you to enjoy a better experience. Google does it too by refusing to support Nexus handsets beyond 18 months. Samsung does it with the Galaxy SIII, S4 and S5 by delaying release of software to older versions.
I don't see the point of the article besides it proclaiming Apple has survived Android while convincing people to spend a premium on the handset.
It's good to have both Apple and Android there, no need fighting. Someone might like Apple cause it gives them the feeling of preimumness while I may decide to settle on Android because I hate task switching (I actually hate task switching, prefer multi tasking).
Also, Motorola had fingerprint recognition (albeit poor implementation) before iPhone.
The assumption that iPhone is premium has also resulted in a bad habit of iOS apps being ported to android the developers ignoring the feature set in Andoid and limiting the app to the featureset of iOS.
Malware on Android is more by design than by the OS being of poor quality. There is also lots of way to gain access to your data rather than malware as has been demonstrated in the number of hacked firms in the last year.
-- with Regards:
blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
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@Martin - I totally agree. Maybe you actually should go ahead and do the blog so that we read :-) @Dennis - 2 points you have brought about which I don't agree with: 1. "So this guy is proud that it costs Apple less than $200 to make an iPhone but that they sell it for $700 to a "premium market"" No where has he said this - I personally wouldn't want to buy an iPhone for $201 even if it costs $200 to make it. The premium market is in the cost of the handset, and never in the cost of goods - Btw, the $200 tag is cost of goods, you haven't added the marketing & other human factors that costs Apple to run the iPhone-world 2. Malware on Android is more by design than by the OS being of poor quality. This is exactly what it is, poor initial design quality! The biggest selling point of the Android OS (multi tasking) is actually one of the biggest misgivings of the system. The system, for example, treats a touch just like any other process running and thats why you can actually have issues with response times on touch, while iOS stops everything the system was doing to respond to a touch. - This to me was a big trade off. You can't have both worlds, but to the user, you must respond as fast as possible to the touch ./Ok3ch On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
So this guy is proud that it costs Apple less than $200 to make an iPhone but that they sell it for $700 to a "premium market" ?
Motorola had the misfortune of choosing who it wants to sell to, like HTC. They were selling good Android handsets to "premium market" that already owns iPhones.
Most of the Android market does not have access to Motorola handsets, Nexus handsets or HTC.
I will also go ahead and assume the likes of Tecno are losing money according to the insider, unless they get in the "premium space."
Android biggest issue is that of upselling, where manufacturers want to engage in a wasteful habit of selling you a new smartphone every few years for you to enjoy a better experience. Google does it too by refusing to support Nexus handsets beyond 18 months. Samsung does it with the Galaxy SIII, S4 and S5 by delaying release of software to older versions.
I don't see the point of the article besides it proclaiming Apple has survived Android while convincing people to spend a premium on the handset.
It's good to have both Apple and Android there, no need fighting. Someone might like Apple cause it gives them the feeling of preimumness while I may decide to settle on Android because I hate task switching (I actually hate task switching, prefer multi tasking).
Also, Motorola had fingerprint recognition (albeit poor implementation) before iPhone.
The assumption that iPhone is premium has also resulted in a bad habit of iOS apps being ported to android the developers ignoring the feature set in Andoid and limiting the app to the featureset of iOS.
Malware on Android is more by design than by the OS being of poor quality. There is also lots of way to gain access to your data rather than malware as has been demonstrated in the number of hacked firms in the last year.
-- with Regards:
blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
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On number 2. Touch on my device is very good. I have come to observe some devices are underpowered. Example: Someone at work has some HTC Something V. She complains that it hangs or slows down when she is doing calls or text. The problem here is that her device has a single core processor. She then has installed TrueCaller, which attempts to intercept her calls and texts to give contact info. So one process has to wait for the other to finish, or the two processes end up switching back and forth between themselves hence slowing down her calls. By design, Android allows other apps to access your calls and SMS (if you allow them when installing). Malware gets into Android through google not vetting apps in the store (though it has been automating this and weeding out some apps) and also from side loading apps. Side loading of apps is a well known feature (disabled by default, but most people enable it and then forget to disable). So for example, Google refuses to carry some apps eg Grooveshark on their store, but you can sideload such apps. So yes, feature is there intentionally, just that most aren't aware of it and its implications. -- with Regards: blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
@Dennis - totally agree & its really inevitable that these devices will have different specs and cause different user experience, which is also another plus for Apple & iOS. Overall, if I had time, I would definitely love Android for all that I can do with it, but unfortunately, I have to think of how to make money also, so no time :-) ./Ok3ch On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
On number 2. Touch on my device is very good. I have come to observe some devices are underpowered. Example: Someone at work has some HTC Something V. She complains that it hangs or slows down when she is doing calls or text.
The problem here is that her device has a single core processor. She then has installed TrueCaller, which attempts to intercept her calls and texts to give contact info. So one process has to wait for the other to finish, or the two processes end up switching back and forth between themselves hence slowing down her calls.
By design, Android allows other apps to access your calls and SMS (if you allow them when installing).
Malware gets into Android through google not vetting apps in the store (though it has been automating this and weeding out some apps) and also from side loading apps.
Side loading of apps is a well known feature (disabled by default, but most people enable it and then forget to disable). So for example, Google refuses to carry some apps eg Grooveshark on their store, but you can sideload such apps.
So yes, feature is there intentionally, just that most aren't aware of it and its implications.
-- with Regards:
blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
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How come when Microsoft "Windows" allows Malware [by design] it's a bad thing but with Google on Android is called a feature? Just asking :) ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com> | To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> | Sent: Sábado, 15 de Marzo 2014 16:45:51 | Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] How Android lost global open market share | to Apple's integrated iOS | On number 2. | Touch on my device is very good. I have come to observe some devices | are underpowered. Example: Someone at work has some HTC Something V. | She complains that it hangs or slows down when she is doing calls or | text. | The problem here is that her device has a single core processor. She | then has installed TrueCaller, which attempts to intercept her calls | and texts to give contact info. So one process has to wait for the | other to finish, or the two processes end up switching back and | forth between themselves hence slowing down her calls. | By design, Android allows other apps to access your calls and SMS (if | you allow them when installing). | Malware gets into Android through google not vetting apps in the | store (though it has been automating this and weeding out some apps) | and also from side loading apps. | Side loading of apps is a well known feature (disabled by default, | but most people enable it and then forget to disable). So for | example, Google refuses to carry some apps eg Grooveshark on their | store, but you can sideload such apps. | So yes, feature is there intentionally, just that most aren't aware | of it and its implications. | -- | with Regards: | blog.denniskioko.com | _______________________________________________ | skunkworks mailing list | skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke | ------------ | List info, subscribe/unsubscribe | http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks | ------------ | Skunkworks Rules | http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 | ------------ | Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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