Re: [Skunkworks] Raspberry pi in Kenyan schools
These are children. They dont need Pi at that age Daniel Nyaga <nyaga_nbi@hotmail.com> wrote: Forget laptops for pupils - way too expensive and difficult. The $35 computer is where it's at.. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/schools Google Kenya, ICT Board, Nailab, etc. - Can you hear me? _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
@Buliva Bill Gates was programming as early as 15, while decades later(2000) Kenyans get to experience computers at university... Early adoption and exposure to technology are a necessity. Japan and the US have shown that from the many innovations from these exposed youth. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Arthur Buliva <arthurbuliva@hotmail.com>wrote:
These are children. They dont need Pi at that age
Daniel Nyaga <nyaga_nbi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Forget laptops for pupils - way too expensive and difficult. The $35 computer is where it's at..
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/schools
Google Kenya, ICT Board, Nailab, etc. - Can you hear me?
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I own two Pis. The Raspberry Pi is all nice and dandy. And I love mine for tinkering with. But in all honestly you could build both a cheaper and more powerful PC by talking a walk to Revlon plaza or nearby and getting: 1. 5k CPU 2. 5k TFT monitor 3. Mouse and Keyboard 4. Linux (download, not necessarily gotten at Revlon) In the case of the R-pi, the $35 is only for the little CPU. Cool as it is, it is not powerful enough for many things; and many peripherals, even keyboards and mice, still do not work well with it. (I am not against the R-pi in any way, I love it but we have to be realistic). My bigger point is, its been possible for years to get cheap PCs locally for our schools. We just don't have the will to do so at the moment. Kelvin www.kenyaloans.com On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> wrote:
@Buliva
Bill Gates was programming as early as 15, while decades later(2000) Kenyans get to experience computers at university...
Early adoption and exposure to technology are a necessity. Japan and the US have shown that from the many innovations from these exposed youth.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Arthur Buliva <arthurbuliva@hotmail.com>wrote:
These are children. They dont need Pi at that age
Daniel Nyaga <nyaga_nbi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Forget laptops for pupils - way too expensive and difficult. The $35 computer is where it's at..
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/schools
Google Kenya, ICT Board, Nailab, etc. - Can you hear me?
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I wish we could get statistics here as opposed to mere statements! Which developed country gives laptops to standard one pupils?(6 year old) The best exposure to technology is by introduction of ICT related courses early in the schools curriculumn for axample as early as standard 1 The ICT becomes mandatory and is examined in class 8. The same replicated in high school up to University. This way, a pupil would progress gradually in ICT as field of study like mathematics, Sciences or English. Of course, to teach ICT as a subject, schools would be required to set-up ICT labs for practicals. The labs would realistically be useful to those in class 4 upwards In standard one, we need to incorporate pictures of computers and laptops may be. Regards Shad ________________________________ From: Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Raspberry pi in Kenyan schools @Buliva Bill Gates was programming as early as 15, while decades later(2000) Kenyans get to experience computers at university... Early adoption and exposure to technology are a necessity. Japan and the US have shown that from the many innovations from these exposed youth. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Arthur Buliva <arthurbuliva@hotmail.com> wrote: These are children. They dont need Pi at that age
Daniel Nyaga <nyaga_nbi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Forget laptops for pupils - way too expensive and difficult. The $35 computer is where it's at..
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/schools
Google Kenya, ICT Board, Nailab, etc. - Can you hear me?
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Why not give kids a kindle or an equivalent e-reader? After that, convert all books into epub and push them to kindles (3g). After that, you no longer have to worry about books distribution. You can push wikipedia sections. You can provide rudimentary internet access... etc. It makes sense considering that a typical ebook reader will go for 3 weeks on a single charge and can probably be charged for an hour or less using a portable solar charger. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Shadrack Mwaniki < shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
I wish we could get statistics here as opposed to mere statements! Which developed country gives laptops to standard one pupils?(6 year old)
The best exposure to technology is by introduction of ICT related courses early in the schools curriculumn for axample as early as standard 1
The ICT becomes mandatory and is examined in class 8.
The same replicated in high school up to University.
This way, a pupil would progress gradually in ICT as field of study like mathematics, Sciences or English.
Of course, to teach ICT as a subject, schools would be required to set-up ICT labs for practicals. The labs would realistically be useful to those in class 4 upwards
In standard one, we need to incorporate pictures of computers and laptops may be.
Regards Shad
------------------------------ *From:* Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 4:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Raspberry pi in Kenyan schools
@Buliva
Bill Gates was programming as early as 15, while decades later(2000) Kenyans get to experience computers at university...
Early adoption and exposure to technology are a necessity. Japan and the US have shown that from the many innovations from these exposed youth.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Arthur Buliva <arthurbuliva@hotmail.com>wrote:
These are children. They dont need Pi at that age
Daniel Nyaga <nyaga_nbi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Forget laptops for pupils - way too expensive and difficult. The $35 computer is where it's at..
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/schools
Google Kenya, ICT Board, Nailab, etc. - Can you hear me?
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oh, and if you really want? You can embed a reasonable CPU in an ebook reader cheaply. How cheap? 7 USD for a SOC [1] that has 1080p gpu. Couple that with a reasonable rubberized external keyboard and you can use the small 7inch e-ink display as a computer display. You could rig this frankestein-like monster to go into computer mode on demand and hibernate when not in use (goes into ebook mode). Usage 1. Ebook in normal mode. SOC is shut down. Can be in this mode fore weeks. 2. Button that powers up CPU and goes into computer mode. Eink screen is used as the computer screen. Refresh rates will suck. But IDEs don't care much about fps. 3. Aggressive deep sleep for the CPU while in use. i/o is through a usb hub to a keyboard. Storage utilizes an SD card. Net access is through 3g or wifi. 4. Hibernate/shutdown and it goes back into ebook mode. Bundle in the usual suspects (python, ruby, asm, C books) in addition to regular school books and you have a recipe for a knowledge based economy.
What I am suggesting is a fusion of an ebook reader and a raspberry pi like device.<<
---- Allwinner A10 - ARM Cortex A8 SoC Its price and features is causing massive disruption of the tablet market in China (a minor recession was caused by widespread cancellation of prior committments to other SoCs!), as every factory in Shenzen scrambles to compete with hundreds of other factories for the same end-user market: tablets and PVRs. ---- 1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allwinner_A10 2. http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/ 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allwinner_A1X On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Laban Mwangi <lmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Why not give kids a kindle or an equivalent e-reader? After that, convert all books into epub and push them to kindles (3g). After that, you no longer have to worry about books distribution. You can push wikipedia sections. You can provide rudimentary internet access... etc. It makes sense considering that a typical ebook reader will go for 3 weeks on a single charge and can probably be charged for an hour or less using a portable solar charger.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Shadrack Mwaniki < shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
I wish we could get statistics here as opposed to mere statements! Which developed country gives laptops to standard one pupils?(6 year old)
The best exposure to technology is by introduction of ICT related courses early in the schools curriculumn for axample as early as standard 1
The ICT becomes mandatory and is examined in class 8.
The same replicated in high school up to University.
This way, a pupil would progress gradually in ICT as field of study like mathematics, Sciences or English.
Of course, to teach ICT as a subject, schools would be required to set-up ICT labs for practicals. The labs would realistically be useful to those in class 4 upwards
In standard one, we need to incorporate pictures of computers and laptops may be.
Regards Shad
------------------------------ *From:* Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 4:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Raspberry pi in Kenyan schools
@Buliva
Bill Gates was programming as early as 15, while decades later(2000) Kenyans get to experience computers at university...
Early adoption and exposure to technology are a necessity. Japan and the US have shown that from the many innovations from these exposed youth.
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Arthur Buliva <arthurbuliva@hotmail.com>wrote:
These are children. They dont need Pi at that age
Daniel Nyaga <nyaga_nbi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Forget laptops for pupils - way too expensive and difficult. The $35 computer is where it's at..
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/schools
Google Kenya, ICT Board, Nailab, etc. - Can you hear me?
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Good people, I think it should be mandatory that guys teach in some village school. What do you think motivates kids at that age, its what they are seeing, not reading. Think of a computer and internet to be simply a way of bringing the world to a child who is in some village in the uppermost part of garissa. You want to make alive the imagination of the child as early as possible, and that’s child is changed for the rest of their lives Laptops for Class 1 , the effect will manifest in 2030 Oscar From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Laban Mwangi Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:09 PM To: Shadrack Mwaniki; Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Raspberry pi in Kenyan schools Why not give kids a kindle or an equivalent e-reader? After that, convert all books into epub and push them to kindles (3g). After that, you no longer have to worry about books distribution. You can push wikipedia sections. You can provide rudimentary internet access... etc. It makes sense considering that a typical ebook reader will go for 3 weeks on a single charge and can probably be charged for an hour or less using a portable solar charger. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Shadrack Mwaniki <shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote: I wish we could get statistics here as opposed to mere statements! Which developed country gives laptops to standard one pupils?(6 year old) The best exposure to technology is by introduction of ICT related courses early in the schools curriculumn for axample as early as standard 1 The ICT becomes mandatory and is examined in class 8. The same replicated in high school up to University. This way, a pupil would progress gradually in ICT as field of study like mathematics, Sciences or English. Of course, to teach ICT as a subject, schools would be required to set-up ICT labs for practicals. The labs would realistically be useful to those in class 4 upwards In standard one, we need to incorporate pictures of computers and laptops may be. Regards Shad _____ From: Francis Njenga <korefn@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Raspberry pi in Kenyan schools @Buliva Bill Gates was programming as early as 15, while decades later(2000) Kenyans get to experience computers at university... Early adoption and exposure to technology are a necessity. Japan and the US have shown that from the many innovations from these exposed youth. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Arthur Buliva <arthurbuliva@hotmail.com> wrote: These are children. They dont need Pi at that age Daniel Nyaga <nyaga_nbi@hotmail.com> wrote: Forget laptops for pupils - way too expensive and difficult. The $35 computer is where it's at.. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/schools Google Kenya, ICT Board, Nailab, etc. - Can you hear me? _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Kore Francis Njenga Running and Walking are only breaths apart. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke <http://my.co.ke/> _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24 <http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94> &t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
You said it very well. At 15. That is form one. Not standard one as implied earlier Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:30:47 +0300 From: korefn@gmail.com To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Raspberry pi in Kenyan schools @Buliva Bill Gates was programming as early as 15, while decades later(2000) Kenyans get to experience computers at university... Early adoption and exposure to technology are a necessity. Japan and the US have shown that from the many innovations from these exposed youth. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Arthur Buliva <arthurbuliva@hotmail.com> wrote: These are children. They dont need Pi at that age Daniel Nyaga <nyaga_nbi@hotmail.com> wrote: Forget laptops for pupils - way too expensive and difficult. The $35 computer is where it's at.. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/schools Google Kenya, ICT Board, Nailab, etc. - Can you hear me? _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Kore Francis NjengaRunning and Walking are only breaths apart. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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