Online magazines can work ... but there a several challenges they have to overcome... firstly what a magazine does online has to be true to its offline brand . Many brands lose their character online as they are not always able to translate their values and offering on the web. consumers also engage very differently with magazines , a magazine is a special relationship that is very one on one , many consumers cannot wait for print dates for their fav mags and this is often missed online by creating more regular interaction and thus changing the brand role in the consumers life ... On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:02 AM, <skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 20:08:45 +0200 From: Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> To: Skunk Works <skunkworks@my.co.ke> Subject: [Skunkworks] can online magazines work? Message-ID: <2c9638d70912081008u4d2fe516k6c11be839393373a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I recently heard about the demise of Adam magazine and another tourism on- can't remember the name.

No doubt these mags had gathered a number of fans and its sad to see them go. So I was thinking how about having them online instead of print? I gave this suggestion to some pals and one of them said "Adam is a magazine I flip through on a nice Sunday afternoon at home at a leisurely pace, doubt I'll take the time to read it on line."

SO my question is- Is online a viable option especially in Kenya and are there any success stories or otherwise? isn't this a good local content project? I remember PC magazine also went online a few months back wonder how that's going...

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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:16:38 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Paypal and Kenyan Cards Message-ID: <13976235.211260296193468.JavaMail.SYSTEM@obbayi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

"External Regulations" is simply USA regulations. Moneybookers is British and they dont have the ridiculous regulations the US have. Do you know USA is trying to go for people with Swiss Bank accounts?

Did you know Sun/Java has started a model like the Apple or Ovi stores and they call it the Java Store. It is only open to USA developers to sell their Apps. Developers from a few other countries are allowed to use the store but can't sell Apps to USA customers but can only give free Apps for download. I tried to apply for them to consider Kenya but they need a multitude of Kenyan developers to apply personally so they can get the necessary government policy blah blah integrated into their system.

check out the store here

http://www.java.com/en/store/index.jsp

Steve Obbayi

SKYPE: sobbayi US: +1 202 297 6831 +1 202 470 0525 KE: +254 722 627 691

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----- Original Message ----- From: "solomon kariri" <solomonkariri@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 12:52:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Paypal and Kenyan Cards

What external regulations? Does those regulations apply to other such service providers? Im saying this because i have been using moneybookers to receive money into my account without a glitch and still does.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve@sobbayi.com > wrote:

I don't know about Paypal and Kenyan Bank accounts coz I talked to some officials a couple of weeks ago specifically on this issue and they said nothing has changed as of now. The problems they have with kenyan Banks are because they have to follow "external regulations" that prevent them from sending money to Kenya. So it's Paypal that is deliberately doing it.

Steve Obbayi

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----- Original Message ----- From: "amanya" < whynnot@gmail.com > To: "Skunkworks Forum" < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 4:42:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Paypal and Kenyan Cards

@David was surprised you saying that you have always been able to receive. for me the case has been always not able to receive. and there are no updates on their site http://bit.ly/4MJP3T

-- Solomon Kariri,

Software Developer, Cell: +254736 729 450 Skype: solomonkariri

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Message: 3 Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:29:21 +0300 From: aki <aki275@googlemail.com> To: Skunkworks Forum <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Forum nokia competition Message-ID: <eae9e5720912081129k6b8bf757tb1d2706ac920c0ab@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

@Steve, @Murigi : Honestly, maybe there is no one in KE who is a developer. And it may also be true that we are knocking on wrong doors? Assume that there is a need to start local dev communities, what's next? :-)