Absolutely Alex, i was looking forward to your opinion on this subject, i just didn'nt want to mention organizations on the list. Walu we seek some wisdom from you on the same matter are you there :-) On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:

Actually it's the ICT Board that needs a senior staff member with knowledge on the subject in order to offer leadership. This has been lacking for a long time.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Al Kags<alkags@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi all.

Much has been said on this forum about government, organisations and companies not giving much work to developers who do are not companies. having spoken to a few people who could give the contracts etc., i understood them to say that the concerns were that their concerns are:-

1. They cannot be assured of the freelance developers level of quality. 2. They cannot be assured of the freelance developers delivery time - that they will deliver everything they say they will at the appointed time 3. That they require too much supervision 4. That they over promise. 5. The development of a website/application requires several competences - designer, IA, developer, integrator etc. The contention is that you guys don't/won't work together as a team.

Here's a question:

If an organisation/ company was to decide to do a call for entries/ tender of sorts for a significant web project to be delivered by a team of freelance individuals from this forum, can it be done?

The sub-parts of these question are:-

a) Can you form a team consisting of Project Manager (to assure everything is done in time, guide the proposal making etc); Designer (who does outstanding designs in CSS); Developer(s) who can work well with Google Aps - integrate Gmaps etc into the site; mobile developer to develop mobile apps, etc; integrator to ensure that the site is seamless?

b) Can your team come together and bid for the project in detail - including what you can put together, timelines, budgets, documentations etc? (Each member of the team would sign a contract and would be paid as an individual for their quoted rate)

c) Can the team that wins the bid implement the project in such a seamless and timely manner, delivering such high quality that the project can stand up as a model that the government, organisations and companies can use to contract you?

d) Being that this is such an untried model, would the other developers in the skunkworks arena support the winning team to ensure that they succeed in delivering the project at the highest possible quality and within the exact time they promised to do so? If yes, what is the structure that skunkworks would use to do this?

Here's my thinking. A lot of the developers and other related professionals here are passionate and really good at what they do, and they often just need a chance. Not everyone can be employed by the 3mice etc of this world and so its a challenge to give everyone a chance.

Given the concerns expressed by the client group, the onus is on interested people here to prove to them that the model of contracting individual freelance professionals here is a workable one.

I know one organisation that would be interested in trying it out. So before they make a further move, I bring the idea here to you and ask,

what is possible?

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