skunkers Ati PS ndemo told u guys how KISSTV is the first digital Tv and you guys were wowed and kept banging your head in apprehension? We know that it is wrong to tell off wakubwa in African societies but just the way Raila was telling us to go and remove the kofias in our tarimbos because culture is not static, skunkers must humbly correct the wazees when they are wrong. -- Sent from my mobile device
MO, Nice attempt at contribution though it's clear you are on this list to sell stuff rather than give real input. And your language needs some sanitizing, is there anyway you can give positive feedback without being condescending? Making those around seem like dwarfs doesn't make you a giant. Kiania -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon
David What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing. Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer. On 8/19/09, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
MO,
Nice attempt at contribution though it's clear you are on this list to sell stuff rather than give real input.
And your language needs some sanitizing, is there anyway you can give positive feedback without being condescending? Making those around seem like dwarfs doesn't make you a giant.
Kiania
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I dont like the tone on this thread...why dont we all just ignore our egos? Lets not make a war at this precious forum. David. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
On 8/19/09, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
MO,
Nice attempt at contribution though it's clear you are on this list to sell stuff rather than give real input.
And your language needs some sanitizing, is there anyway you can give positive feedback without being condescending? Making those around seem like dwarfs doesn't make you a giant.
Kiania
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@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn" On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake! On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity!
solomon We give the credit that kisstv kweli is digital ama? Kisstv is not even close to digital. On 8/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake!
On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
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Oh boy Here we go again..... 2009/8/19 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
solomon
We give the credit that kisstv kweli is digital ama? Kisstv is not even close to digital.
On 8/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake!
On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
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Kiss TV has digital equipment. It is unfortunate that we ( in Kenya ) Do not have a digital Broadcast receiver. He may have meant that the station is digital which is true however they are not broadcasting digital. He was not misleading anyone. On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Watson Kambo wrote:
Oh boy Here we go again.....
2009/8/19 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> solomon
We give the credit that kisstv kweli is digital ama? Kisstv is not even close to digital.
On 8/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake!
On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
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I totally concur with Rahim, I feel the PS have become the cheap target for off colour jokes, snides and comments in bad taste. We have many more important things to discuss on this list don't know why we decide to go personal. In as far as Digital Terrestrial Television is concerned. KBC have awarded the first phase of the tender to Star Software Technologies of China who have been informed of the same and are awaiting the down payment in order to commence installation. Here are the state of events: - 1) Star Software bid for the DTT Contract and won inspite of not having met the tender criteria of having a Bid Bond. The tender offers were submitted on the 18th of December last year 2) The 1st phase will cost about Kshs. 180m and involved setting up of 1 Head-end in Nairobi and a Transmitter in Limuru (with would cover 30Km) with the accompanying microwave/fiber connection. Treasury is reluctant to release the money as KBC is insolvent and government priority is to feed it's people. 3) Star Software had signed a MoU with KBC for cooperation before going to tender, implying that the tender was a mere formality. Finally, there will be two or maximum 3 DTT infrastructure operators and it could be that KISS would be one of them but I doubt if they'll want to roll-out by themselves due to cost and the model is predominantly free-to-air. Regards Kiania Dee. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Rahim Kara<rahim@applecentre.co.ke> wrote:
Kiss TV has digital equipment. It is unfortunate that we ( in Kenya ) Do not have a digital Broadcast receiver. He may have meant that the station is digital which is true however they are not broadcasting digital. He was not misleading anyone.
On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Watson Kambo wrote:
Oh boy Here we go again.....
2009/8/19 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
solomon
We give the credit that kisstv kweli is digital ama? Kisstv is not even close to digital.
On 8/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake!
On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
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David What I said and I still stand by is that Ndemo told skunkers that KISSTV was teh first to go digital. Thats a lie because KISSTV is not digital. We are not talking about the contracts awarded to CHinese firms here. We are talking about Ndemo's statement. If anybody is here to support Ndemo without questioning his actions, pole. David, I dont know what you mean by cheap but I wish not to get into that. SO stay put and face the issue. Dr Ndemo told you that Kiss TV is digital and you nodded, Kweli rongo? MO On 8/19/09, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally concur with Rahim, I feel the PS have become the cheap target for off colour jokes, snides and comments in bad taste. We have many more important things to discuss on this list don't know why we decide to go personal.
In as far as Digital Terrestrial Television is concerned.
KBC have awarded the first phase of the tender to Star Software Technologies of China who have been informed of the same and are awaiting the down payment in order to commence installation.
Here are the state of events: -
1) Star Software bid for the DTT Contract and won inspite of not having met the tender criteria of having a Bid Bond. The tender offers were submitted on the 18th of December last year
2) The 1st phase will cost about Kshs. 180m and involved setting up of 1 Head-end in Nairobi and a Transmitter in Limuru (with would cover 30Km) with the accompanying microwave/fiber connection. Treasury is reluctant to release the money as KBC is insolvent and government priority is to feed it's people.
3) Star Software had signed a MoU with KBC for cooperation before going to tender, implying that the tender was a mere formality.
Finally, there will be two or maximum 3 DTT infrastructure operators and it could be that KISS would be one of them but I doubt if they'll want to roll-out by themselves due to cost and the model is predominantly free-to-air.
Regards
Kiania Dee.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Rahim Kara<rahim@applecentre.co.ke> wrote:
Kiss TV has digital equipment. It is unfortunate that we ( in Kenya ) Do not have a digital Broadcast receiver. He may have meant that the station is digital which is true however they are not broadcasting digital. He was not misleading anyone.
On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Watson Kambo wrote:
Oh boy Here we go again.....
2009/8/19 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
solomon
We give the credit that kisstv kweli is digital ama? Kisstv is not even close to digital.
On 8/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake!
On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch
the
world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
AND
It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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I would suggest that a commission of enquiry be formed to establish as to whether Mr Ndemo said Kiss TV is digital . The hearings of this commission will be made public and to report to the Skumkworks Moderator in 6 months. Regards, Kevin On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:35 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What I said and I still stand by is that Ndemo told skunkers that KISSTV was teh first to go digital. Thats a lie because KISSTV is not digital. We are not talking about the contracts awarded to CHinese firms here. We are talking about Ndemo's statement.
If anybody is here to support Ndemo without questioning his actions, pole. David, I dont know what you mean by cheap but I wish not to get into that. SO stay put and face the issue. Dr Ndemo told you that Kiss TV is digital and you nodded, Kweli rongo?
MO
On 8/19/09, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally concur with Rahim, I feel the PS have become the cheap target for off colour jokes, snides and comments in bad taste. We have many more important things to discuss on this list don't know why we decide to go personal.
In as far as Digital Terrestrial Television is concerned.
KBC have awarded the first phase of the tender to Star Software Technologies of China who have been informed of the same and are awaiting the down payment in order to commence installation.
Here are the state of events: -
1) Star Software bid for the DTT Contract and won inspite of not having met the tender criteria of having a Bid Bond. The tender offers were submitted on the 18th of December last year
2) The 1st phase will cost about Kshs. 180m and involved setting up of 1 Head-end in Nairobi and a Transmitter in Limuru (with would cover 30Km) with the accompanying microwave/fiber connection. Treasury is reluctant to release the money as KBC is insolvent and government priority is to feed it's people.
3) Star Software had signed a MoU with KBC for cooperation before going to tender, implying that the tender was a mere formality.
Finally, there will be two or maximum 3 DTT infrastructure operators and it could be that KISS would be one of them but I doubt if they'll want to roll-out by themselves due to cost and the model is predominantly free-to-air.
Regards
Kiania Dee.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Rahim Kara<rahim@applecentre.co.ke> wrote:
Kiss TV has digital equipment. It is unfortunate that we ( in Kenya ) Do not have a digital Broadcast receiver. He may have meant that the station is digital which is true however they are not broadcasting digital. He was not misleading anyone.
On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Watson Kambo wrote:
Oh boy Here we go again.....
2009/8/19 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
solomon
We give the credit that kisstv kweli is digital ama? Kisstv is not even close to digital.
On 8/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake!
On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch
the
world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
> David > > What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping > about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times > smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u > are typing. > > Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make > you live longer. >
-- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041
Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!
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Kevin Thanks for this. And now since Video recordings are allowed, we would appreciate such when presented to the commision. MO On 8/19/09, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
I would suggest that a commission of enquiry be formed to establish as to whether Mr Ndemo said Kiss TV is digital . The hearings of this commission will be made public and to report to the Skumkworks Moderator in 6 months.
Regards, Kevin On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:35 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What I said and I still stand by is that Ndemo told skunkers that KISSTV was teh first to go digital. Thats a lie because KISSTV is not digital. We are not talking about the contracts awarded to CHinese firms here. We are talking about Ndemo's statement.
If anybody is here to support Ndemo without questioning his actions, pole. David, I dont know what you mean by cheap but I wish not to get into that. SO stay put and face the issue. Dr Ndemo told you that Kiss TV is digital and you nodded, Kweli rongo?
MO
On 8/19/09, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally concur with Rahim, I feel the PS have become the cheap target for off colour jokes, snides and comments in bad taste. We have many more important things to discuss on this list don't know why we decide to go personal.
In as far as Digital Terrestrial Television is concerned.
KBC have awarded the first phase of the tender to Star Software Technologies of China who have been informed of the same and are awaiting the down payment in order to commence installation.
Here are the state of events: -
1) Star Software bid for the DTT Contract and won inspite of not having met the tender criteria of having a Bid Bond. The tender offers were submitted on the 18th of December last year
2) The 1st phase will cost about Kshs. 180m and involved setting up of 1 Head-end in Nairobi and a Transmitter in Limuru (with would cover 30Km) with the accompanying microwave/fiber connection. Treasury is reluctant to release the money as KBC is insolvent and government priority is to feed it's people.
3) Star Software had signed a MoU with KBC for cooperation before going to tender, implying that the tender was a mere formality.
Finally, there will be two or maximum 3 DTT infrastructure operators and it could be that KISS would be one of them but I doubt if they'll want to roll-out by themselves due to cost and the model is predominantly free-to-air.
Regards
Kiania Dee.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Rahim Kara<rahim@applecentre.co.ke> wrote:
Kiss TV has digital equipment. It is unfortunate that we ( in Kenya ) Do not have a digital Broadcast receiver. He may have meant that the station is digital which is true however they are not broadcasting digital. He was not misleading anyone.
On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Watson Kambo wrote:
Oh boy Here we go again.....
2009/8/19 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
solomon
We give the credit that kisstv kweli is digital ama? Kisstv is not even close to digital.
On 8/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake!
On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: > @Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be
bought,
> bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the > world > burn" > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com
> wrote: > >> David >> >> What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping >> about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times >> smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u >> are typing. >> >> Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make >> you live longer. >> >
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Rahim What do you mean? That I have Pizza making equipment and I have not started making Pizza and then yu say I am making Pizza? Jeez, lets be serious and think deeply otherwise we will end up with half baked systems MO On 8/19/09, Rahim Kara <rahim@applecentre.co.ke> wrote:
Kiss TV has digital equipment. It is unfortunate that we ( in Kenya ) Do not have a digital Broadcast receiver. He may have meant that the station is digital which is true however they are not broadcasting digital. He was not misleading anyone.
On Aug 19, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Watson Kambo wrote:
Oh boy Here we go again.....
2009/8/19 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
solomon
We give the credit that kisstv kweli is digital ama? Kisstv is not even close to digital.
On 8/19/09, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Not another attempt to brush off Dr. Ndemo. Let us give credit where it is deserved and positively criticize for Heaven's sake!
On 19/08/2009, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
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@Rad And Mike Oketch said "He who doesnt trust his senses to guide him will resort to slashing and hopefully killing the messenger." On 8/19/09, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
@Kiania - Alfred Pennyworth said it best. "Some men can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn"
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
David
What contribution do u make on the list or you think that yapping about others will improve your public image. This list is 30 times smaller than the othe lists and so I dont know if you even know what u are typing.
Continue living a desperate life you live. Happiness though will make you live longer.
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I concur Mike ... We should take Dr. Ndemo to the Hague.. How dare he cheat skunks that Kiss TV is digital. eh .. how ? apana !! Ndemo must GO !!! the nerve of the jamaa .. Mike watu wa skunks wako NYUMA yako KABISA .. lets go riot outside his office then to state house .. 1 million skukers march .. then uproot the railway line .. No ama better still uproot the sea bed fibre cable in protest .. Haki Yetu !!! 2009/8/19 mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
skunkers
Ati PS ndemo told u guys how KISSTV is the first digital Tv and you guys were wowed and kept banging your head in apprehension?
We know that it is wrong to tell off wakubwa in African societies but just the way Raila was telling us to go and remove the kofias in our tarimbos because culture is not static, skunkers must humbly correct the wazees when they are wrong.
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Thomas Kibui<thomas.kibui@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur Mike ... We should take Dr. Ndemo to the Hague.. How dare he cheat skunks that Kiss TV is digital. eh .. how ? apana !! Ndemo must GO !!! the nerve of the jamaa ..
Mike watu wa skunks wako NYUMA yako KABISA .. lets go riot outside his office then to state house .. 1 million skukers march .. then uproot the railway line .. No ama better still uproot the sea bed fibre cable in protest .. Haki Yetu !!!
List mods, Any way to get rid of these trolls? Yeah, I know, shift_del but, this list is being turned into crap. BR, S
I concur Mike ... We should take Dr. Ndemo to the Hague.. How dare he cheat skunks that Kiss TV is digital. eh .. how ? apana !! Ndemo must GO !!! the nerve of the jamaa ..
Mike watu wa skunks wako NYUMA yako KABISA .. lets go riot outside his office then to state house .. 1 million skukers march .. then uproot the railway line .. No ama better still uproot the sea bed fibre cable in protest .. Haki Yetu !!!
Thomas, kindly revert to the rules posted earlier. This sort of posts are strongly discouraged. skunkers Ati PS ndemo told u guys how KISSTV is the first digital Tv and you
guys were wowed and kept banging your head in apprehension?
We know that it is wrong to tell off wakubwa in African societies but just the way Raila was telling us to go and remove the kofias in our tarimbos because culture is not static, skunkers must humbly correct the wazees when they are wrong.
Mike, kindly revert to the rules posted earlier. The subject and tone of your email are strongly discouraged. -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |
Phares Can you copy and paste for me the rules here? or you put them on a link we can consult now and then. MO On 8/19/09, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur Mike ...
We should take Dr. Ndemo to the Hague.. How dare he cheat skunks that Kiss TV is digital. eh .. how ? apana !! Ndemo must GO !!! the nerve of the jamaa ..
Mike watu wa skunks wako NYUMA yako KABISA .. lets go riot outside his office then to state house .. 1 million skukers march .. then uproot the railway line .. No ama better still uproot the sea bed fibre cable in protest .. Haki Yetu !!!
Thomas, kindly revert to the rules posted earlier. This sort of posts are strongly discouraged. skunkers
Ati PS ndemo told u guys how KISSTV is the first digital Tv and you
guys were wowed and kept banging your head in apprehension?
We know that it is wrong to tell off wakubwa in African societies but just the way Raila was telling us to go and remove the kofias in our tarimbos because culture is not static, skunkers must humbly correct the wazees when they are wrong.
Mike, kindly revert to the rules posted earlier. The subject and tone of your email are strongly discouraged.
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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Watson Kambo