Re: [Skunkworks] iPhone 5S & iPhone 5c
I hate to say it but half the people who are so critical about Apple have an issue with just one this - price. Apple products are premium products and if you can't afford it, it wasn't meant for you so shouting loudest doesn't change that fact! I currently have a hTC one X and I adore it and at the same time look forward to getting the hTC one, but somehow, whenever Apple releases a new phone, I want that too. The hTC One is the best phone in the market right now (according to several reviews - google), but iPhones are still very much admirable, thats why I plan to have both. ./Ok3ch On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
To add on. Towards the end of the key note, Cook himself said ""We don't just pack in feature after feature..."
That statement speaks for itself
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Apple doesn't really play the specs game. There are a lot of phones with better specs that iPhones, but the iPhones strength comes from the tight integration between software and hardware. In fact, in terms on memory, the iPhone has around 512 MB or 1 GB, and yet it performs better than most other phones with 2 or 4 times the memory. There is no use in comparing specs.
Same as with the camera. The megapixel battle is worthless, as the quality of pictures is determined by other factors such as the sensor. So a 8 MP camera can actually be better than a 42 MP camera.
A lot of features usually found on the newer Android phones are totally unnecessary, ahead of their time or poorly implemented and after the fad, the fade away..
I think the Touch ID is revolutionary. I waste a lot of time typing passwords and passcodes on the iPhone. Now I will just swipe my finger and in a millisecond I am in. Siri is also performing very well on iOS 7, a major improvement and though no refined, this can another feature with a lot of potential.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Originally, yes, it was that way. Not any more.
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting you realize that the competition matches up - Apple sets the trends, they are happy there ./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a point at which "value" has to be quantified. Initially it was the OS being superior than the competition, the competition matched up.
Next it was the app ecosystem, something Apple still has an edge when it comes to tablets. The competition matched up in the smartphone arena.
Remember the retina display? It was a big deal then. The iphone 5s ppi is embarrassing, compared to what 2013 is offering.
The build quality - here it beats most android phones, except, of course, HTC, and few others.
At this point, I am tempted to say it is the customers creating value for an inferior product.. Period.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Apple never wants to match up - They create value for their customers,
which if you understand, you wont bother comparing. I still believe those hardest hit always tempt to compare and explain features to make them stand out ;-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Fingerprint scanner - A definite wow factor. On this one, everyone else will play catch up.
However, for the first time I don't think iPhone should be compared to the likes of S4 or HTC One any more. It just doesn't match up.
If only the fanboys (and girls) would dare check out what's out there
http://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-5s-vs-android-specs-comparison-galaxy...
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Nicholas A <niodanga@gmail.com> wrote:
You right Stephen
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stephen Wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>
wrote:
The NSA must be smiling about the fingerprint scanner on the new
iPhone. Useful data right there.
Stephen Stephen Wanjau
Tel:+254 722 238 165 | Skype ID: stevewanjau | Twitter ID:uwanja |
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
The camera is 8MP.
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It would take one doing regular usage to appreciate some of the smaller things the apple ecosystem provides. I gave up justifying anything to anyone. @okechukwu when youre ordering the Gold one do get in touch. I would like one too... On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I hate to say it but half the people who are so critical about Apple have an issue with just one this - price. Apple products are premium products and if you can't afford it, it wasn't meant for you so shouting loudest doesn't change that fact!
I currently have a hTC one X and I adore it and at the same time look forward to getting the hTC one, but somehow, whenever Apple releases a new phone, I want that too. The hTC One is the best phone in the market right now (according to several reviews - google), but iPhones are still very much admirable, thats why I plan to have both.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
To add on. Towards the end of the key note, Cook himself said ""We don't just pack in feature after feature..."
That statement speaks for itself
------------------------------
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*To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Miércoles, 11 de Septiembre 2013 8:04:31
*Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] iPhone 5S & iPhone 5c
Apple doesn't really play the specs game. There are a lot of phones with better specs that iPhones, but the iPhones strength comes from the tight integration between software and hardware. In fact, in terms on memory, the iPhone has around 512 MB or 1 GB, and yet it performs better than most other phones with 2 or 4 times the memory. There is no use in comparing specs.
Same as with the camera. The megapixel battle is worthless, as the quality of pictures is determined by other factors such as the sensor. So a 8 MP camera can actually be better than a 42 MP camera.
A lot of features usually found on the newer Android phones are totally unnecessary, ahead of their time or poorly implemented and after the fad, the fade away..
I think the Touch ID is revolutionary. I waste a lot of time typing passwords and passcodes on the iPhone. Now I will just swipe my finger and in a millisecond I am in. Siri is also performing very well on iOS 7, a major improvement and though no refined, this can another feature with a lot of potential.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Originally, yes, it was that way. Not any more.
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting you realize that the competition matches up - Apple sets the trends, they are happy there ./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a point at which "value" has to be quantified. Initially it was the OS being superior than the competition, the competition matched up.
Next it was the app ecosystem, something Apple still has an edge when it comes to tablets. The competition matched up in the smartphone arena.
Remember the retina display? It was a big deal then. The iphone 5s ppi is embarrassing, compared to what 2013 is offering.
The build quality - here it beats most android phones, except, of course, HTC, and few others.
At this point, I am tempted to say it is the customers creating value for an inferior product.. Period.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apple never wants to match up - They create value for their customers,
which if you understand, you wont bother comparing. I still believe those hardest hit always tempt to compare and explain features to make them stand out ;-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Fingerprint scanner - A definite wow factor. On this one, everyone else will play catch up.
However, for the first time I don't think iPhone should be compared to the likes of S4 or HTC One any more. It just doesn't match up.
If only the fanboys (and girls) would dare check out what's out there
http://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-5s-vs-android-specs-comparison-galaxy...
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Nicholas A <niodanga@gmail.com>
wrote:
You right Stephen
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stephen Wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>
wrote:
The NSA must be smiling about the fingerprint scanner on the new
iPhone. Useful data right there.
Stephen Stephen Wanjau
Tel:+254 722 238 165 | Skype ID: stevewanjau | Twitter ID:uwanja |
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
The camera is 8MP.
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Sawa @Collins we'll talk ./Ok3ch On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Collins Areba | Tel +254 707 750 788 | twitter @brainiacKE <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
It would take one doing regular usage to appreciate some of the smaller things the apple ecosystem provides. I gave up justifying anything to anyone. @okechukwu when youre ordering the Gold one do get in touch. I would like one too...
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I hate to say it but half the people who are so critical about Apple have an issue with just one this - price. Apple products are premium products and if you can't afford it, it wasn't meant for you so shouting loudest doesn't change that fact!
I currently have a hTC one X and I adore it and at the same time look forward to getting the hTC one, but somehow, whenever Apple releases a new phone, I want that too. The hTC One is the best phone in the market right now (according to several reviews - google), but iPhones are still very much admirable, thats why I plan to have both.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
To add on. Towards the end of the key note, Cook himself said ""We don't just pack in feature after feature..."
That statement speaks for itself
------------------------------
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*To: *"Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> *Sent: *Miércoles, 11 de Septiembre 2013 8:04:31
*Subject: *Re: [Skunkworks] iPhone 5S & iPhone 5c
Apple doesn't really play the specs game. There are a lot of phones with better specs that iPhones, but the iPhones strength comes from the tight integration between software and hardware. In fact, in terms on memory, the iPhone has around 512 MB or 1 GB, and yet it performs better than most other phones with 2 or 4 times the memory. There is no use in comparing specs.
Same as with the camera. The megapixel battle is worthless, as the quality of pictures is determined by other factors such as the sensor. So a 8 MP camera can actually be better than a 42 MP camera.
A lot of features usually found on the newer Android phones are totally unnecessary, ahead of their time or poorly implemented and after the fad, the fade away..
I think the Touch ID is revolutionary. I waste a lot of time typing passwords and passcodes on the iPhone. Now I will just swipe my finger and in a millisecond I am in. Siri is also performing very well on iOS 7, a major improvement and though no refined, this can another feature with a lot of potential.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Originally, yes, it was that way. Not any more.
On Wednesday, September 11, 2013, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting you realize that the competition matches up - Apple sets the trends, they are happy there ./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a point at which "value" has to be quantified. Initially it was the OS being superior than the competition, the competition matched up.
Next it was the app ecosystem, something Apple still has an edge when it comes to tablets. The competition matched up in the smartphone arena.
Remember the retina display? It was a big deal then. The iphone 5s ppi is embarrassing, compared to what 2013 is offering.
The build quality - here it beats most android phones, except, of course, HTC, and few others.
At this point, I am tempted to say it is the customers creating value for an inferior product.. Period.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apple never wants to match up - They create value for their
customers, which if you understand, you wont bother comparing. I still believe those hardest hit always tempt to compare and explain features to make them stand out ;-)
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Fingerprint scanner - A definite wow factor. On this one, everyone else will play catch up.
However, for the first time I don't think iPhone should be compared to the likes of S4 or HTC One any more. It just doesn't match up.
If only the fanboys (and girls) would dare check out what's out there
http://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-5s-vs-android-specs-comparison-galaxy...
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Nicholas A <niodanga@gmail.com>
wrote:
You right Stephen
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stephen Wanjau <wanjaustev@gmail.com>
wrote:
The NSA must be smiling about the fingerprint scanner on the new
iPhone. Useful data right there.
Stephen Stephen Wanjau
Tel:+254 722 238 165 | Skype ID: stevewanjau | Twitter ID:uwanja |
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
The camera is 8MP.
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@Lawi, I don't think I am uninformed. I made my self clear that it is not about features, and I admit the iPhone have lesser than competition. It is about implementation and integration. How many people use features like face unlock or eye scrolling on Android? How well do they work?
I long for the day when on this list a thread about an Apple phone review will be purely a review about the phone (and the event) and not any Android-iOS war. ./Ok3ch On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Lawi,
I don't think I am uninformed. I made my self clear that it is not about features, and I admit the iPhone have lesser than competition. It is about implementation and integration. How many people use features like face unlock or eye scrolling on Android? How well do they work?
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@Musyoki, I don't know how much face unlock is in use. Pattern unlock pretty much serves my purpose. However, it looks like it's doing well enough to make google introduce "silly face unlock<http://www.techradar.com/news/software/forget-face-unlock-google-patents-silly-face-unlock-for-android-devices-1157067>". @Oketch, I agree fully on the review. But I still believe that it's pretty hard to review anything if there is nothing to compare it with. The reality is Apple will try convince us that their phone is better than the competition. Samsung, will try and do the same. And many others. At this point, the market is mature enough that we can safely ignore the basics. We are now reduced to nitpicking because that is the only way to differentiate the products On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I long for the day when on this list a thread about an Apple phone review will be purely a review about the phone (and the event) and not any Android-iOS war.
./Ok3ch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
@Lawi,
I don't think I am uninformed. I made my self clear that it is not about features, and I admit the iPhone have lesser than competition. It is about implementation and integration. How many people use features like face unlock or eye scrolling on Android? How well do they work?
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Colourful polycarbonate bodies have been copied from Nokia. Fingerprint scanning has been on PCs for ages, makes you wonder why competitors never thought about porting it.
@Dennis, Guess that's the difference between having the idea (Samsung/Sony) and implementing it (Apple). Apple filed<http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=(20130181949.PGNR.+AND+20130718.PD.)&OS=dn/20130181949+and+pd/7/18/2013&RS=(DN/20130181949+AND+PD/20130718)>in Jan 2013 and less than a year later, have implemented it. Samsung filed<http://tech2.in.com/news/general/new-patent-confirms-fingerprint-sensor-for-nextgen-samsung-smartphones/874548>it in Jan 2012 (Approved in May 2013). Sony filed <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17490629> for the same in Mar 2012. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter any more. Apple rolled the feature first, any implementations by competitors will be seen as copying On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Colourful polycarbonate bodies have been copied from Nokia.
Fingerprint scanning has been on PCs for ages, makes you wonder why competitors never thought about porting it.
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iPhone 5 S - S for Same iPhone 5 C - C for cheap. Sheep *Psalms 23* On 11 September 2013 14:40, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Dennis,
Guess that's the difference between having the idea (Samsung/Sony) and implementing it (Apple). Apple filed<http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=(20130181949.PGNR.+AND+20130718.PD.)&OS=dn/20130181949+and+pd/7/18/2013&RS=(DN/20130181949+AND+PD/20130718)>in Jan 2013 and less than a year later, have implemented it.
Samsung filed<http://tech2.in.com/news/general/new-patent-confirms-fingerprint-sensor-for-nextgen-samsung-smartphones/874548>it in Jan 2012 (Approved in May 2013).
Sony filed <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17490629> for the same in Mar 2012.
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter any more. Apple rolled the feature first, any implementations by competitors will be seen as copying
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Colourful polycarbonate bodies have been copied from Nokia.
Fingerprint scanning has been on PCs for ages, makes you wonder why competitors never thought about porting it.
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I was waiting for the Android Fanboys to crawl out of the woodwork and start bashing the new releases. @Martin best phone is very relative. Clearly you are on Samsung's payroll so to tell us the galaxy note whatever is the best is being rather disingenuous. The 64 bit kernel, the improved camera, the fingerprint scanner are on a production device. Not a prototype or concept and this is why the iPhones will be flying off the shelf. Telling me the specs are not impressive is besides the point. Do you buy specs or a reliable product and pleasurable experience? Chips or memories? @okech I concur the problem people have is on price and nothing else. I would personally love an iPhone but my rent and food is kinda more important. For those who can afford, iPhone is at the top and I totally understand why. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kebaya <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
iPhone 5 S - S for Same
iPhone 5 C - C for cheap.
Sheep
*Psalms 23*
On 11 September 2013 14:40, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Dennis,
Guess that's the difference between having the idea (Samsung/Sony) and implementing it (Apple). Apple filed<http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=(20130181949.PGNR.+AND+20130718.PD.)&OS=dn/20130181949+and+pd/7/18/2013&RS=(DN/20130181949+AND+PD/20130718)>in Jan 2013 and less than a year later, have implemented it.
Samsung filed<http://tech2.in.com/news/general/new-patent-confirms-fingerprint-sensor-for-nextgen-samsung-smartphones/874548>it in Jan 2012 (Approved in May 2013).
Sony filed <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17490629> for the same in Mar 2012.
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter any more. Apple rolled the feature first, any implementations by competitors will be seen as copying
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Colourful polycarbonate bodies have been copied from Nokia.
Fingerprint scanning has been on PCs for ages, makes you wonder why competitors never thought about porting it.
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Hi, I am probably the only one watching in disbelief as this debate is raging on. All the while I have been thinking that choice is a good thing hence iPhone 5c/s, Samsung Galaxy, Note, HTCs, Lumias and the likes. We cannot all love the same thing due to our different preferrences, personalities, cultures and economic backgrounds. That means that there cannot be an "ultimate" handset or tablet computer for everyone. The fact that Apple has released a slightly more affordable phone with several features introduced means that choice and competition are working for the benefit of consumers, no? Martin. On Sep 11, 2013 4:56 PM, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I was waiting for the Android Fanboys to crawl out of the woodwork and start bashing the new releases. @Martin best phone is very relative. Clearly you are on Samsung's payroll so to tell us the galaxy note whatever is the best is being rather disingenuous.
The 64 bit kernel, the improved camera, the fingerprint scanner are on a production device. Not a prototype or concept and this is why the iPhones will be flying off the shelf. Telling me the specs are not impressive is besides the point. Do you buy specs or a reliable product and pleasurable experience? Chips or memories?
@okech I concur the problem people have is on price and nothing else. I would personally love an iPhone but my rent and food is kinda more important. For those who can afford, iPhone is at the top and I totally understand why.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kebaya <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
iPhone 5 S - S for Same
iPhone 5 C - C for cheap.
Sheep
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On 11 September 2013 14:40, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Dennis,
Guess that's the difference between having the idea (Samsung/Sony) and implementing it (Apple). Apple filed<http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=(20130181949.PGNR.+AND+20130718.PD.)&OS=dn/20130181949+and+pd/7/18/2013&RS=(DN/20130181949+AND+PD/20130718)>in Jan 2013 and less than a year later, have implemented it.
Samsung filed<http://tech2.in.com/news/general/new-patent-confirms-fingerprint-sensor-for-nextgen-samsung-smartphones/874548>it in Jan 2012 (Approved in May 2013).
Sony filed <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17490629> for the same in Mar 2012.
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter any more. Apple rolled the feature first, any implementations by competitors will be seen as copying
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
Colourful polycarbonate bodies have been copied from Nokia.
Fingerprint scanning has been on PCs for ages, makes you wonder why competitors never thought about porting it.
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Why I own Iphone's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGIOe13FzY8 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Martin Akolo Chiteri < martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am probably the only one watching in disbelief as this debate is raging on. All the while I have been thinking that choice is a good thing hence iPhone 5c/s, Samsung Galaxy, Note, HTCs, Lumias and the likes. We cannot all love the same thing due to our different preferrences, personalities, cultures and economic backgrounds. That means that there cannot be an "ultimate" handset or tablet computer for everyone.
The fact that Apple has released a slightly more affordable phone with several features introduced means that choice and competition are working for the benefit of consumers, no?
Martin. On Sep 11, 2013 4:56 PM, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I was waiting for the Android Fanboys to crawl out of the woodwork and start bashing the new releases. @Martin best phone is very relative. Clearly you are on Samsung's payroll so to tell us the galaxy note whatever is the best is being rather disingenuous.
The 64 bit kernel, the improved camera, the fingerprint scanner are on a production device. Not a prototype or concept and this is why the iPhones will be flying off the shelf. Telling me the specs are not impressive is besides the point. Do you buy specs or a reliable product and pleasurable experience? Chips or memories?
@okech I concur the problem people have is on price and nothing else. I would personally love an iPhone but my rent and food is kinda more important. For those who can afford, iPhone is at the top and I totally understand why.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kebaya <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
iPhone 5 S - S for Same
iPhone 5 C - C for cheap.
Sheep
*Psalms 23*
On 11 September 2013 14:40, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Dennis,
Guess that's the difference between having the idea (Samsung/Sony) and implementing it (Apple). Apple filed<http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=(20130181949.PGNR.+AND+20130718.PD.)&OS=dn/20130181949+and+pd/7/18/2013&RS=(DN/20130181949+AND+PD/20130718)>in Jan 2013 and less than a year later, have implemented it.
Samsung filed<http://tech2.in.com/news/general/new-patent-confirms-fingerprint-sensor-for-nextgen-samsung-smartphones/874548>it in Jan 2012 (Approved in May 2013).
Sony filed <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17490629> for the same in Mar 2012.
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter any more. Apple rolled the feature first, any implementations by competitors will be seen as copying
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
Colourful polycarbonate bodies have been copied from Nokia.
Fingerprint scanning has been on PCs for ages, makes you wonder why competitors never thought about porting it.
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yawn On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I was waiting for the Android Fanboys to crawl out of the woodwork and start bashing the new releases. @Martin best phone is very relative. Clearly you are on Samsung's payroll so to tell us the galaxy note whatever is the best is being rather disingenuous.
The 64 bit kernel, the improved camera, the fingerprint scanner are on a production device. Not a prototype or concept and this is why the iPhones will be flying off the shelf. Telling me the specs are not impressive is besides the point. Do you buy specs or a reliable product and pleasurable experience? Chips or memories?
@okech I concur the problem people have is on price and nothing else. I would personally love an iPhone but my rent and food is kinda more important. For those who can afford, iPhone is at the top and I totally understand why.
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kebaya <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
iPhone 5 S - S for Same
iPhone 5 C - C for cheap.
Sheep
*Psalms 23*
On 11 September 2013 14:40, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
@Dennis,
Guess that's the difference between having the idea (Samsung/Sony) and implementing it (Apple). Apple filed<http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=(20130181949.PGNR.+AND+20130718.PD.)&OS=dn/20130181949+and+pd/7/18/2013&RS=(DN/20130181949+AND+PD/20130718)>in Jan 2013 and less than a year later, have implemented it.
Samsung filed<http://tech2.in.com/news/general/new-patent-confirms-fingerprint-sensor-for-nextgen-samsung-smartphones/874548>it in Jan 2012 (Approved in May 2013).
Sony filed <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17490629> for the same in Mar 2012.
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter any more. Apple rolled the feature first, any implementations by competitors will be seen as copying
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
Colourful polycarbonate bodies have been copied from Nokia.
Fingerprint scanning has been on PCs for ages, makes you wonder why competitors never thought about porting it.
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on a lighetr note... So this new iPhone 5s has fingerprint recognition? You nigga's better sleep with one eye open, she'll slide your finger over On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:41 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
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@Charles, That is a nice one On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:28 AM, charles kungu <charles.kungu@gmail.com>wrote:
on a lighetr note... So this new iPhone 5s has fingerprint recognition? You nigga's better sleep with one eye open, she'll slide your finger over
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How about this? http://mashable.com/2013/09/11/girl-fingerprint-scanner/ Kind Regards, Nick Wambugu On 12 Sep 2013 09:10, "wool row" <skunkworks100@gmail.com> wrote:
@Charles,
That is a nice one
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Just like I 'prophesied' ..the other players have started playing catch-up! :) Samsung says its next-gen smartphones will have 64-bit processors too! http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/12/samsung-64-bit-cpu/ On 12 September 2013 09:28, Nick Wambugu <nick.wambugu@gmail.com> wrote:
How about this?
http://mashable.com/2013/09/11/girl-fingerprint-scanner/
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Nick Wambugu On 12 Sep 2013 09:10, "wool row" <skunkworks100@gmail.com> wrote:
@Charles,
That is a nice one
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on a lighetr note... So this new iPhone 5s has fingerprint recognition? You nigga's better sleep with one eye open, she'll slide your finger over
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There is the price issue that is waay out of reach for many, on the other side of the mobile planet is something called user-friendly handling of things which IMHO so far iPhone has scored highly, the others are still playing catchup despite having larger screens. Simple to say, apple first get the basics right the so called features come after. If you get your hands on the good "old" iPhone 3G you will be surprised at how good the photos are let alone the handling, typing your SMS or even mails is never a hustle. So, in summary, we can go as far as amour plating the phones but in as long as they don't make your mundane tasks easy you can call it whatever names that tickles your fancy and still the basics are as horrendous. Sent from my iPhone enabled Pencil :D On 12 Sep 2013, at 13:04, "Moses M.G" <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Just like I 'prophesied' ..the other players have started playing catch-up! :) Samsung says its next-gen smartphones will have 64-bit processors too! http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/12/samsung-64-bit-cpu/
On 12 September 2013 09:28, Nick Wambugu <nick.wambugu@gmail.com> wrote: How about this?
http://mashable.com/2013/09/11/girl-fingerprint-scanner/
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Nick Wambugu On 12 Sep 2013 09:10, "wool row" <skunkworks100@gmail.com> wrote: @Charles,
That is a nice one
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