<OT> IT/Computer Science MSc. Programmes from UoN
There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi: MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 MSc. Applied Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 MSc. Information Systems - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187 If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do and why? I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "*been there, done that *"
My understanding is 1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a lots of theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of it all. Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one. 2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who attempted it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering he was working. 3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for guys interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad. Rgds -- Peter Muchemi Software Developer Electra Software Ltd http://www.software.co.ke +254 722 320986 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi:
MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 MSc. Applied Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 MSc. Information Systems - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187
If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do and why? I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "*been there, done that*"
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I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so still doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the University, since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, but more field oriented practice. ./Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
My understanding is
1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a lots of theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of it all. Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one.
2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who attempted it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering he was working.
3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for guys interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad.
Rgds
-- Peter Muchemi Software Developer Electra Software Ltd http://www.software.co.ke +254 722 320986 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi:
MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 MSc. Applied Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 MSc. Information Systems - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187
If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do and why? I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, done that"
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MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so still doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the University, since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, but more field oriented practice.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
My understanding is
1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a lots of theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of it all. Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one.
2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who attempted it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering he was working.
3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for guys interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad.
Rgds
-- Peter Muchemi Software Developer Electra Software Ltd http://www.software.co.ke +254 722 320986 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi:
MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 MSc. Applied Computer Science -
http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188
MSc. Information Systems - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187
If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do and why? I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, done that"
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Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is it still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the private sector? Kiania D On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote:
MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so still doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the University, since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, but more field oriented practice.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
My understanding is
1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a lots of theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of it all. Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one.
2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who attempted it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering he was working.
3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for guys interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad.
Rgds
-- Peter Muchemi Software Developer Electra Software Ltd http://www.software.co.ke +254 722 320986 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi:
MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 MSc. Applied Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 MSc. Information Systems - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187
If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do and why? I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, done that"
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There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked! ./Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is it still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the private sector?
Kiania D
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote:
MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so still doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the University, since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, but more field oriented practice.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
My understanding is
1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a lots of theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of it all. Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one.
2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who attempted it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering he was working.
3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for guys interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad.
Rgds
-- Peter Muchemi Software Developer Electra Software Ltd http://www.software.co.ke +254 722 320986 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi:
MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 MSc. Applied Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 MSc. Information Systems - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187
If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do and why? I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, done that"
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I totally agree with Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is it still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the private sector?
Kiania D
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote:
MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so still doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the University, since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, but more field oriented practice.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com>
wrote:
My understanding is
1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a lots of theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of it all. Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one.
2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who attempted it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering he was working.
3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for guys interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad.
Rgds
-- Peter Muchemi Software Developer Electra Software Ltd http://www.software.co.ke +254 722 320986 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi:
MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 MSc. Applied Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 MSc. Information Systems -
http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187
If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do
and
why? I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, done that"
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@Ok3ch and @Peter, where are the classes held? I've written an email to ics@uonbi.ac.ke and bps@uonbi.ac.ke and seems no one is there. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is it still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the private sector?
Kiania D
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote:
MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so still doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the University, since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, but more field oriented practice.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com>
wrote:
My understanding is
1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a lots of theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of it all. Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one.
2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who attempted it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering he was working.
3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for guys interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad.
Rgds
-- Peter Muchemi Software Developer Electra Software Ltd http://www.software.co.ke +254 722 320986 On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi: > > MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 > MSc. Applied Computer Science - > http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 > MSc. Information Systems - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187 > > If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do and > why? > I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, done > that" > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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try eamiriti@uonbi.ac.ke On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch and @Peter, where are the classes held? I've written an email to ics@uonbi.ac.ke and bps@uonbi.ac.ke and seems no one is there.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com>wrote:
I totally agree with Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is it still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the private sector?
Kiania D
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote:
MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so
still
doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the University, since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, but more field oriented practice.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote: > My understanding is > > 1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a lots of > theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of it > all. > Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one. > > 2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who > attempted > it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering he was > working. > > 3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for guys > interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad. > > Rgds > > -- > Peter Muchemi > Software Developer > Electra Software Ltd > http://www.software.co.ke > +254 722 320986 > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com
> wrote: >> >> There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi: >> >> MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 >> MSc. Information Systems - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187 >> >> If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do and >> why? >> I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, done >> that" >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Or just walk to Chiromo ./Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
try
eamiriti@uonbi.ac.ke
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch and @Peter, where are the classes held? I've written an email to ics@uonbi.ac.ke and bps@uonbi.ac.ke and seems no one is there.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is it still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the private sector?
Kiania D
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote:
MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: > > I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so > still > doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the University, > since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was > already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management > of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, > but > more field oriented practice. > > ./Ok3ch > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> > wrote: > > My understanding is > > > > 1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a > > lots of > > theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of > > it > > all. > > Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one. > > > > 2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who > > attempted > > it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering > > he was > > working. > > > > 3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for > > guys > > interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad. > > > > Rgds > > > > -- > > Peter Muchemi > > Software Developer > > Electra Software Ltd > > http://www.software.co.ke > > +254 722 320986 > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu > > <pkarunyu@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi: > >> > >> MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 > >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - > >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 > >> MSc. Information Systems - > >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187 > >> > >> If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do > >> and > >> why? > >> I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, > >> done > >> that" > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> ------------ > >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > ------------ > > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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So the classes are @ Chiromo campus? On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Or just walk to Chiromo
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
try
eamiriti@uonbi.ac.ke
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch and @Peter, where are the classes held? I've written an email to ics@uonbi.ac.ke and bps@uonbi.ac.ke and seems no one is there.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
wrote:
There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is it still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the private sector?
Kiania D
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote: > MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered. > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so >> still >> doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the
University,
>> since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I was >> already working in IT - This course is meant for those in management >> of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, >> but >> more field oriented practice. >> >> ./Ok3ch >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi < pmuchemi@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > My understanding is >> > >> > 1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a >> > lots of >> > theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end of >> > it >> > all. >> > Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one. >> > >> > 2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend who >> > attempted >> > it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load considering >> > he was >> > working. >> > >> > 3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for >> > guys >> > interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad. >> > >> > Rgds >> > >> > -- >> > Peter Muchemi >> > Software Developer >> > Electra Software Ltd >> > http://www.software.co.ke >> > +254 722 320986 >> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu >> > <pkarunyu@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of Nairobi: >> >> >> >> MSc. Computer Science - http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 >> >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - >> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 >> >> MSc. Information Systems - >> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187 >> >> >> >> If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you do >> >> and >> >> why? >> >> I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been there, >> >> done >> >> that" >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> ------------ >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> ------------ >> >> >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> ------------ >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > ------------ >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Yes, evening classes at Chiromo campus On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
So the classes are @ Chiromo campus?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Or just walk to Chiromo
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
try
eamiriti@uonbi.ac.ke
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch and @Peter, where are the classes held? I've written an email to ics@uonbi.ac.ke and bps@uonbi.ac.ke and seems no one is there.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked!
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: > Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is > it > still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the > private > sector? > > Kiania D > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim > <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote: >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered. >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so >>> still >>> doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the >>> University, >>> since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I >>> was >>> already working in IT - This course is meant for those in >>> management >>> of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, >>> but >>> more field oriented practice. >>> >>> ./Ok3ch >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi >>> <pmuchemi@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > My understanding is >>> > >>> > 1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a >>> > lots of >>> > theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end >>> > of >>> > it >>> > all. >>> > Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one. >>> > >>> > 2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend >>> > who >>> > attempted >>> > it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load >>> > considering >>> > he was >>> > working. >>> > >>> > 3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for >>> > guys >>> > interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad. >>> > >>> > Rgds >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Peter Muchemi >>> > Software Developer >>> > Electra Software Ltd >>> > http://www.software.co.ke >>> > +254 722 320986 >>> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu >>> > <pkarunyu@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of >>> >> Nairobi: >>> >> >>> >> MSc. Computer Science - >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 >>> >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 >>> >> MSc. Information Systems - >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187 >>> >> >>> >> If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you >>> >> do >>> >> and >>> >> why? >>> >> I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been >>> >> there, >>> >> done >>> >> that" >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Skunkworks mailing list >>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> >> ------------ >>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> ------------ >>> >> >>> >> Skunkworks Rules >>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >> ------------ >>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > ------------ >>> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > -- > > > [Asentric Consulting Ltd] > > http://www.shutterdiplomacy.com > > I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders. -Jewish > proverb > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Thanks ye all for the valuable input. @Muchemi, thanks for directing me towards Miriti, he has been very helpful. On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, evening classes at Chiromo campus
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
So the classes are @ Chiromo campus?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Or just walk to Chiromo
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
try
eamiriti@uonbi.ac.ke
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch and @Peter, where are the classes held? I've written an email
to
ics@uonbi.ac.ke and bps@uonbi.ac.ke and seems no one is there.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
I totally agree with Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote: > > There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked! > > ./Ok3ch > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric
Consulting
> Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: > > Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is > > it > > still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the > > private > > sector? > > > > Kiania D > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim > > <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote: > >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered. > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu < okechukwu@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so > >>> still > >>> doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the > >>> University, > >>> since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I > >>> was > >>> already working in IT - This course is meant for those in > >>> management > >>> of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, > >>> but > >>> more field oriented practice. > >>> > >>> ./Ok3ch > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi > >>> <pmuchemi@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > My understanding is > >>> > > >>> > 1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a > >>> > lots of > >>> > theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end > >>> > of > >>> > it > >>> > all. > >>> > Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one. > >>> > > >>> > 2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend > >>> > who > >>> > attempted > >>> > it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load > >>> > considering > >>> > he was > >>> > working. > >>> > > >>> > 3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for > >>> > guys > >>> > interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad. > >>> > > >>> > Rgds > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Peter Muchemi > >>> > Software Developer > >>> > Electra Software Ltd > >>> > http://www.software.co.ke > >>> > +254 722 320986 > >>> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu > >>> > <pkarunyu@gmail.com> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of > >>> >> Nairobi: > >>> >> > >>> >> MSc. Computer Science - > >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 > >>> >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - > >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 > >>> >> MSc. Information Systems - > >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187 > >>> >> > >>> >> If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you > >>> >> do > >>> >> and > >>> >> why? > >>> >> I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been > >>> >> there, > >>> >> done > >>> >> that" > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >>> >> ------------ > >>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> >> ------------ > >>> >> > >>> >> Skunkworks Rules > >>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >>> >> ------------ > >>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Skunkworks mailing list > >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >>> > ------------ > >>> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> > ------------ > >>> > > >>> > Skunkworks Rules > >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >>> > ------------ > >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >>> ------------ > >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> ------------ > >>> > >>> Skunkworks Rules > >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >>> ------------ > >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> ------------ > >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > [Asentric Consulting Ltd] > > > > http://www.shutterdiplomacy.com > > > > I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders. -Jewish > > proverb > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > ------------ > > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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the pleasure is mine. On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks ye all for the valuable input.
@Muchemi, thanks for directing me towards Miriti, he has been very helpful.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, evening classes at Chiromo campus
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
So the classes are @ Chiromo campus?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Or just walk to Chiromo
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com> wrote:
try
eamiriti@uonbi.ac.ke
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Ok3ch and @Peter, where are the classes held? I've written an
email to
ics@uonbi.ac.ke and bps@uonbi.ac.ke and seems no one is there.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Peter Muchemi <pmuchemi@gmail.com
wrote: > > I totally agree with Ok3ch > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> There is a lot of relevance you will be shocked! >> >> ./Ok3ch >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:05 AM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting >> Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Am sure the programs are taught by Bernie and Fred Flingstone. Is >> > it >> > still an Academic exercise or is there more relevance to the >> > private >> > sector? >> > >> > Kiania D >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, julianne anyim >> > <julianneanyim@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - No longer offered. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Okechukwu < okechukwu@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I actually did MSc Information Systems (ok, project not done, so >> >>> still >> >>> doing) - This was informed by the advice I got from the >> >>> University, >> >>> since my bachelor's degree was in Mechanical Engineering and I >> >>> was >> >>> already working in IT - This course is meant for those in >> >>> management >> >>> of Information systems or aspiring to do so. There's less theory, >> >>> but >> >>> more field oriented practice. >> >>> >> >>> ./Ok3ch >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Peter Muchemi >> >>> <pmuchemi@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > My understanding is >> >>> > >> >>> > 1st. Is for guys who did a cs based undergrad course. It got a >> >>> > lots of >> >>> > theory, simple class practicals and a fair project and the end >> >>> > of >> >>> > it >> >>> > all. >> >>> > Can be done in 2 yrs. I studied this one. >> >>> > >> >>> > 2nd got few theory and heavy weight practicals. I got a friend >> >>> > who >> >>> > attempted >> >>> > it and left mid stream complaining of the heavy load >> >>> > considering >> >>> > he was >> >>> > working. >> >>> > >> >>> > 3rd is a basic cs course(1st and 2nd yr undergrad cs) meant for >> >>> > guys >> >>> > interested in IT but who did arts of general bsc in undergrad. >> >>> > >> >>> > Rgds >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > Peter Muchemi >> >>> > Software Developer >> >>> > Electra Software Ltd >> >>> > http://www.software.co.ke >> >>> > +254 722 320986 >> >>> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Karunyu >> >>> > <pkarunyu@gmail.com> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> There are these 3 Masters programmes from University of >> >>> >> Nairobi: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> MSc. Computer Science - >> >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/189 >> >>> >> MSc. Applied Computer Science - >> >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/188 >> >>> >> MSc. Information Systems - >> >>> >> http://sci.uonbi.ac.ke/degree_courses/187 >> >>> >> >> >>> >> If you were required to do one of those 3, which one would you >> >>> >> do >> >>> >> and >> >>> >> why? >> >>> >> I would most appreciate feedback from those who have "been >> >>> >> there, >> >>> >> done >> >>> >> that" >> >>> >> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >>> >> ------------ >> >>> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >>> >> ------------ >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >>> >> ------------ >> >>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >> >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >>> > ------------ >> >>> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >>> > ------------ >> >>> > >> >>> > Skunkworks Rules >> >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >>> > ------------ >> >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Skunkworks mailing list >> >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >>> ------------ >> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >>> ------------ >> >>> >> >>> Skunkworks Rules >> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >>> ------------ >> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> >> ------------ >> >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> ------------ >> >> >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> ------------ >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > [Asentric Consulting Ltd] >> > >> > http://www.shutterdiplomacy.com >> > >> > I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders. -Jewish >> > proverb >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > ------------ >> > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > -- > Peter Muchemi > Software Developer > Electra Software Ltd > http://www.software.co.ke > +254 722 320986 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd -
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Peter Muchemi