Re: [Skunkworks] Mobile charges by the second or minute, but whose?
Folks, I am pleased to inform you of the latest BIG ICT Consumers Association of Kenya's lobbying success!! Following below, and surrounding advocacy activities, the Meteorological Department has now taken up the task of calibrating mobile companies timers!! "it's time we found out who has been robbing who? (time-wise)" This proves that our Association's involvement in National Standards setting process pays off. The Association now intends to deepen and widen it's presence on productive local standards setting processes and initiatives. Regards, Alex Gakuru (wearing ICT Consumers Association of Kenya's hat) On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Besides ongoing prices onslaughts, could about 14 million consumers' air-time be different from services providers' air-time? I have inquired from KeBS which, or if any, of the mobile service providers have their billing-time calibration certificates.
Hi All, While on the same, Could someone please tell me how you are charged(Per minute and/or data) when connecting to the internet using a phones' bluetooth? Many Thanks.
@Alex - How exactly does the Meteorological Department come into the mix? I thought this was where KBS (not the bus:)) comes into play? @Clement - you are just using BT to connect to your PC not to the net (unless i misunderstand your question). So you are still charged per MB the same way you'd be charged if you were surfing directly from your phone. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
While on the same, Could someone please tell me how you are charged(Per minute and/or data) when connecting to the internet using a phones' bluetooth?
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Billy <billyx5@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alex - How exactly does the Meteorological Department come into the mix? I thought this was where KBS (not the bus:)) comes into play?
@Clement - you are just using BT to connect to your PC not to the net (unless i misunderstand your question). So you are still charged per MB the same way you'd be charged if you were surfing directly from your phone.
LOL!
Bt just connects to the phone, gprs, of which your charged connects to the ntwk. On 6/4/09, Joseph Wayodi <jwayodi@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Billy <billyx5@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alex - How exactly does the Meteorological Department come into the mix? I thought this was where KBS (not the bus:)) comes into play?
@Clement - you are just using BT to connect to your PC not to the net (unless i misunderstand your question). So you are still charged per MB the same way you'd be charged if you were surfing directly from your phone.
LOL!
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Hi, @Billy, I'm using BT to connect to the phone which has GPRS settings(Which I use for Internet Connectivity). @All. Many Thanks. I'll post findings on second trial, I must've had like 5bob credit, because it didnt last that long, though I opened a few websites.
who is your provider. it is quite expensive if you are using out of bundle rates for providers with bundles. On 05/06/2009, Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, @Billy, I'm using BT to connect to the phone which has GPRS settings(Which I use for Internet Connectivity). @All. Many Thanks. I'll post findings on second trial, I must've had like 5bob credit, because it didnt last that long, though I opened a few websites. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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Hi, @Dennis. I used Safaricom.
it must be a bit expensive because they are charging you at ksh. 8 per mb. for it to be cheaper. you have to activate bundles by sending "activate" to 446. to activate bundles, you must have prepaid credit that matches your rates as shown below for prepaid.: MB Cost 40 300 100 500 300 1000 700 2000 2009/6/5 Clement Ongera <cnongera@gmail.com>
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I was a target of the Kaniti-based threats and somethings stood out: 1 Safaricom appears to be more mindful of "our obligations" to the residents of that beautiful place. They will under no circumstances give you information about where these SMSs or calls emanate from. Now I know which category of the community rheir CSR is biased to 2. Looking at the list of cell-phone number gathered by police from the two stations I visited (Langata and Rongai) ALL these threats are on Safaricom's network. Safari-Con? 3. Though our security agncies want to make out that this racket isn't sophisticated, the format of the messages would lead one to believe otherwise. They are being sent from a PC ( sample this: "KUTOKA KWA (MUNGIKI) WEWE TUNAKUJUA (NAME) NA HATUTAKI . . . ..") Notice the brackets? A query is extracting data from a list or database. Second, where do they get details that someone would normally have on you? In my case they called me by my baptism name. ONLY my mother and older brother use that name: I just hate that name... 4. If then assuming this information is being stolen from someone with a list or database, and seeing how Safaricom are SO sensitive about this issue and further the threats (and payments - its odd they are not blocking these transactions even with the complaints from law-abiding clients) are happenijng on their network am very suspicious to say the least. Perhaps bwana PS should push for an audit of Security on the M-Pesa user database? 5. Since this and other problems have been there for a long time, why isn't the government moving to push for tightening of providers security arangements? Why can't they be forced to re-call and re-issue cell numbers with mandaroty registration?? Let thrash out rhis issue because as it is peoples wellbeing is being traded openly on this money transfer system and the provider couldn't care less apparently PS: I have been advised to switch providers as the competing network is more accomodative about ones right to know. Kariuki On 04/06/2009, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks,
I am pleased to inform you of the latest BIG ICT Consumers Association of Kenya's lobbying success!!
Following below, and surrounding advocacy activities, the Meteorological Department has now taken up the task of calibrating mobile companies timers!! "it's time we found out who has been robbing who? (time-wise)"
This proves that our Association's involvement in National Standards setting process pays off.
The Association now intends to deepen and widen it's presence on productive local standards setting processes and initiatives.
Regards,
Alex Gakuru (wearing ICT Consumers Association of Kenya's hat)
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Besides ongoing prices onslaughts, could about 14 million consumers' air-time be different from services providers' air-time? I have inquired from KeBS which, or if any, of the mobile service providers have their billing-time calibration certificates.
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Which reminds me of the observation that: If you are on MPESA and I need to obtain your Name (presumably as it appears on the national I.D. card), I simply attempt to send you some money over MPESA (while having insufficient funds myself). The system generated error report will then also churn your details and voila! I get the Phone number and the Name of the owner. Haven't checked of late if this has been looked into though. Tony.
How would send money to a phone number whose owners name you don't know. Remember you need a phone number to send money via MPESA. If you have a telephone number then there are various ways of obtaining that persons names... On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Which reminds me of the observation that: If you are on MPESA and I need to obtain your Name (presumably as it appears on the national I.D. card), I simply attempt to send you some money over MPESA (while having insufficient funds myself). The system generated error report will then also churn your details and voila! I get the Phone number and the Name of the owner. Haven't checked of late if this has been looked into though.
Tony.
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Japheth, No money is sent (insufficient funds). I'm referring to Client-Client transfer. Try it and let me know. Unfortunately I can't try it myself for now.
There is a legitimate privacy concern here. Hypothetically, your loved one has been communicating with a certain "anonymous" number, too frequently... One could then use below method to know who that is:-) or :-( Cheers, Alex On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Japheth Kioko<japhking@gmail.com> wrote:
How would send money to a phone number whose owners name you don't know. Remember you need a phone number to send money via MPESA. If you have a telephone number then there are various ways of obtaining that persons names...
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Which reminds me of the observation that: If you are on MPESA and I need to obtain your Name (presumably as it appears on the national I.D. card), I simply attempt to send you some money over MPESA (while having insufficient funds myself). The system generated error report will then also churn your details and voila! I get the Phone number and the Name of the owner. Haven't checked of late if this has been looked into though.
Tony.
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Billy -
Clement Ongera -
Dennis Kioko -
Gakuru Alex -
Japheth Kioko -
Joseph Wayodi -
Kariuki Ndung'u -
Ken Simiyu -
Tony Likhanga