Skunkers, A close friend of mine was slapped with the email below from CSI: NY. Guys watch out.. big brother is watching. My question is whether Kenyan copyright laws are being enforced and what is likely to happen in case the guy is taken to court. James _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ RE: Unauthorized Distribution of the Copyrighted Television Series Entitled CSI: NY Dear CompanyA IP Administrators: We are writing this letter on behalf of the relevant subsidiaries of CBS Corporation. We have received information that an individual has utilized the below-referenced IP address at the noted date and time to offer downloads of copyrighted television programs through a "peer-to-peer" service, including such title(s) as: CSI: NY The distribution of unauthorized copies of copyrighted television programs constitutes copyright infringement under the Copyright Act, Title 17 United States Code Section 106(3). This conduct may also violate the laws of other countries, international law, and/or treaty obligations. Since you own this IP address (000.000.00.000), we request that you immediately do the following: 1) Remove or disable access to the individual who has engaged in the conduct described above; and 2) Take appropriate action against the account holder under your Abuse Policy/Terms of Service Agreement. We also would request that you inform the individual who engaged in this conduct that legitimate copies of CBS content are widely available for viewing online, for example on www.cbs.com <http://www.cbs.com> and many other sites that participate in the CBS Audience Network. On behalf of CBS, owner of the exclusive rights in the copyrighted material at issue in this notice, we hereby state that we have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by CBS, its respective agents, or the law. Also, we hereby state, under penalty of perjury, that the information in this notification is accurate and that we are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the exclusive rights being infringed as set forth in this notification. Please direct any end user queries to the following: CopyrightQs@mediasentry.com We appreciate your assistance and thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Your prompt response is requested. Respectfully, A Kempe Enforcement Coordinator MediaSentry ------------------------------ INFRINGEMENT DETAIL -------------------- -- ��ࡱ�
LOL! Kesho bado... :-) On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:50 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunkers,
A close friend of mine was slapped with the email below from CSI: NY. Guys watch out.. big brother is watching. My question is whether Kenyan copyright laws are being enforced and what is likely to happen in case the guy is taken to court.
James
Perhaps you could borrow a line from here http://thepiratebay.org/legal on how to respond to the email. On 31 March 2010 10:10, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
LOL! Kesho bado... :-)
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:50 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com> wrote:
Skunkers,
A close friend of mine was slapped with the email below from CSI: NY. Guys watch out.. big brother is watching. My question is whether Kenyan copyright laws are being enforced and what is likely to happen in case the guy is taken to court.
James
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Dude, my bad.... I'd considered the email an pre-empt event to april fools joke thus my comment <LOL! Kesho bado....>, there are many that will be going on later today and tomorrow on dofferent time zones. If the mail is serious stuff, then its serious stuff. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Perhaps you could borrow a line from here http://thepiratebay.org/legal on how to respond to the email.
Seems legit to me. No april fool. Make sure the IP is correct, if not ignore the message Otherwise, I suggest you stop providing downloads throught the p2p route. Will they take any action, since you are in Kenya, I doubt they will but they may... On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:59 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
Dude, my bad.... I'd considered the email an pre-empt event to april fools joke thus my comment <LOL! Kesho bado....>, there are many that will be going on later today and tomorrow on dofferent time zones. If the mail is serious stuff, then its serious stuff.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote:
Perhaps you could borrow a line from here http://thepiratebay.org/legal on how to respond to the email.
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I can think of some questions off head and will list them : Can the mail be legit, I'm still on the fence.... The ip ( masked ) is information obtained using what method, if the sentry is using mining or striping then itself in infringment. Does US laws allow hacking of hosted systems to obtain such info? Under what laws is the company allowed to eavesdrop, since piracy is not a national or international threat under their laws. It may only has proof of an IP and may have obtained data which I think under some laws would not be acceptable methods. I'm only writing this as a light-hearted joke: Find a good lawyer and sue them for infringement of privacy rights! Piracy is not a good thing so those who are in it should know the issues that follow it. Corrections welcome and nice easter all. :-) On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM, TheBigBoss <thebigboss@peperuka.com> wrote:
Seems legit to me. No april fool.
Make sure the IP is correct, if not ignore the message Otherwise, I suggest you stop providing downloads throught the p2p route. Will they take any action, since you are in Kenya, I doubt they will but they may...
The mail is legit - We receive several of these mails since most of the block of IP's fall in our address space, and usually on some serious cases, a follow up by Interpol and Kenya police on behalf of Interpol. Use of P2P for downloads is not considered a big crime, but redistribution, in terms of sharing back on the same P2P is the big one. ./Ok3ch On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:57 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I can think of some questions off head and will list them : Can the mail be legit, I'm still on the fence.... The ip ( masked ) is information obtained using what method, if the sentry is using mining or striping then itself in infringment. Does US laws allow hacking of hosted systems to obtain such info? Under what laws is the company allowed to eavesdrop, since piracy is not a national or international threat under their laws. It may only has proof of an IP and may have obtained data which I think under some laws would not be acceptable methods. I'm only writing this as a light-hearted joke: Find a good lawyer and sue them for infringement of privacy rights!
Piracy is not a good thing so those who are in it should know the issues that follow it.
Corrections welcome and nice easter all. :-)
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:16 AM, TheBigBoss <thebigboss@peperuka.com> wrote:
Seems legit to me. No april fool.
Make sure the IP is correct, if not ignore the message Otherwise, I suggest you stop providing downloads throught the p2p route. Will they take any action, since you are in Kenya, I doubt they will but they may...
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
The mail is legit - We receive several of these mails since most of the block of IP's fall in our address space, and usually on some serious cases, a follow up by Interpol and Kenya police on behalf of Interpol. Use of P2P for downloads is not considered a big crime, but redistribution, in terms of sharing back on the same P2P is the big one.
./Ok3ch
That's why I always p2p in leech mode :), lesson learnt from my ISP days. BR, S -- Sent from my socks®
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:57 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I can think of some questions off head and will list them : Can the mail be legit, I'm still on the fence.... The ip ( masked ) is information obtained using what method, if the sentry is using mining or striping then itself in infringment. Does US laws allow hacking of hosted systems to obtain such info? Under what laws is the company allowed to eavesdrop, since piracy is not a national or international threat under their laws. It may only has proof of an IP and may have obtained data which I think under some laws would not be acceptable methods. I'm only writing this as a light-hearted joke: Find a good lawyer and sue them for infringement of privacy rights!
@Aki, They could simply be logging activities on their servers, which tells them everything they need, even the content that was infringed upon. So they may not be quite guilty of anything. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
The mail is legit, I have seen many and I am sure guys in the ISPs have seen such. This is what an Acceptable Use Policy for your IP space is for. The ISP is not at fault, but the user using their IPs to distribute pirated content. Not sure how they find you but an easy way is to check who is seeding a file and get the IP info. Kevin On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:57 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
I can think of some questions off head and will list them : Can the mail be legit, I'm still on the fence.... The ip ( masked ) is information obtained using what method, if the sentry is using mining or striping then itself in infringment. Does US laws allow hacking of hosted systems to obtain such info? Under what laws is the company allowed to eavesdrop, since piracy is not a national or international threat under their laws. It may only has proof of an IP and may have obtained data which I think under some laws would not be acceptable methods. I'm only writing this as a light-hearted joke: Find a good lawyer and sue them for infringement of privacy rights!
@Aki, They could simply be logging activities on their servers, which tells them everything they need, even the content that was infringed upon. So they may not be quite guilty of anything. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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