
Guys, Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have sound/audio. Have tried tweak the device to no avail. HELP!!! Wilson.

Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though.... Bernard On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have sound/audio. Have tried tweak the device to no avail.
HELP!!!
Wilson.
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any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for that guys? At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching FREE Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :) Would really appreciate. KBC guys inhouse?? Wilson. On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though....
Bernard
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have sound/audio. Have tried tweak the device to no avail.
HELP!!!
Wilson.
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Now, this is funny coz I have sound with no video on signet. On 18 October 2010 16:13, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for that guys?
At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching FREE Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :)
Would really appreciate.
KBC guys inhouse??
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though....
Bernard
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have sound/audio. Have tried tweak the device to no avail.
HELP!!!
Wilson.
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I use Signet, I'm yet to receive any of these [FOX,Premier,Serie A], I get so many Christian and Islamic Channels :( Could it be a a model version issue? On 18 October 2010 16:22, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, this is funny coz I have sound with no video on signet.
On 18 October 2010 16:13, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for that guys?
At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching FREE Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :)
Would really appreciate.
KBC guys inhouse??
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though....
Bernard
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have sound/audio. Have tried tweak the device to no avail.
HELP!!!
Wilson.
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@Timothy, same here though I've an inbuilt receiver. On 18 October 2010 16:37, Timothy Kyalo <this.gizmo@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Signet, I'm yet to receive any of these [FOX,Premier,Serie A], I get so many Christian and Islamic Channels :( Could it be a a model version issue?
On 18 October 2010 16:22, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, this is funny coz I have sound with no video on signet.
On 18 October 2010 16:13, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for that guys?
At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching FREE Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :)
Would really appreciate.
KBC guys inhouse??
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though....
Bernard
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have sound/audio. Have tried tweak the device to no avail.
HELP!!!
Wilson.
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Scan channels afresh - there are 42 in total the last time i scanned. Wilson. On 18 October 2010 16:40, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
@Timothy, same here though I've an inbuilt receiver.
On 18 October 2010 16:37, Timothy Kyalo <this.gizmo@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Signet, I'm yet to receive any of these [FOX,Premier,Serie A], I get so many Christian and Islamic Channels :( Could it be a a model version issue?
On 18 October 2010 16:22, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, this is funny coz I have sound with no video on signet.
On 18 October 2010 16:13, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for that guys?
At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching FREE Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :)
Would really appreciate.
KBC guys inhouse??
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though....
Bernard
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>wrote:
Guys,
Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have sound/audio. Have tried tweak the device to no avail.
HELP!!!
Wilson.
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hi fellas, Could u fill us in on how to receieve the aforementioned channels. What gear is required, what satelites are you receiving the signals from etc. Regards Lenya On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Scan channels afresh - there are 42 in total the last time i scanned.
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 16:40, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
@Timothy, same here though I've an inbuilt receiver.
On 18 October 2010 16:37, Timothy Kyalo <this.gizmo@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Signet, I'm yet to receive any of these [FOX,Premier,Serie A], I get so many Christian and Islamic Channels :( Could it be a a model version issue?
On 18 October 2010 16:22, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, this is funny coz I have sound with no video on signet.
On 18 October 2010 16:13, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for that guys?
At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching FREE Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :)
Would really appreciate.
KBC guys inhouse??
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though.... Bernard
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote: > > Guys, > > > Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports > channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have > sound/audio. > Have tried tweak the device to no avail. > > HELP!!! > > Wilson. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Can complete. More channels though no sound or video!!! On 10/18/10, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hi fellas,
Could u fill us in on how to receieve the aforementioned channels.
What gear is required, what satelites are you receiving the signals from etc.
Regards
Lenya
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Scan channels afresh - there are 42 in total the last time i scanned.
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 16:40, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
@Timothy, same here though I've an inbuilt receiver.
On 18 October 2010 16:37, Timothy Kyalo <this.gizmo@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Signet, I'm yet to receive any of these [FOX,Premier,Serie A], I get so many Christian and Islamic Channels :( Could it be a a model version issue?
On 18 October 2010 16:22, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, this is funny coz I have sound with no video on signet.
On 18 October 2010 16:13, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for that guys?
At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching FREE Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :)
Would really appreciate.
KBC guys inhouse??
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: > > Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though.... > Bernard > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Guys, >> >> >> Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports >> channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not >> have >> sound/audio. >> Have tried tweak the device to no avail. >> >> HELP!!! >> >> Wilson. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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NO Satellite - KBC digital transmission - acquire set-top box and u r good. Wilson On 18 October 2010 18:55, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hi fellas,
Could u fill us in on how to receieve the aforementioned channels.
What gear is required, what satelites are you receiving the signals from etc.
Regards
Lenya
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Scan channels afresh - there are 42 in total the last time i scanned.
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 16:40, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
@Timothy, same here though I've an inbuilt receiver.
On 18 October 2010 16:37, Timothy Kyalo <this.gizmo@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Signet, I'm yet to receive any of these [FOX,Premier,Serie A], I get so many Christian and Islamic Channels :( Could it be a a model version issue?
On 18 October 2010 16:22, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, this is funny coz I have sound with no video on signet.
On 18 October 2010 16:13, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for that guys?
At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching
FREE
Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :)
Would really appreciate.
KBC guys inhouse??
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote: > > Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though.... > Bernard > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Guys, >> >> >> Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the sports >> channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not have >> sound/audio. >> Have tried tweak the device to no avail. >> >> HELP!!! >> >> Wilson. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Thuo, How much do those babies cost? which shops? rgds On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
NO Satellite - KBC digital transmission - acquire set-top box and u r good.
Wilson
On 18 October 2010 18:55, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hi fellas,
Could u fill us in on how to receieve the aforementioned channels.
What gear is required, what satelites are you receiving the signals from etc.
Regards
Lenya
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Scan channels afresh - there are 42 in total the last time i scanned.
Wilson.
On 18 October 2010 16:40, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
@Timothy, same here though I've an inbuilt receiver.
On 18 October 2010 16:37, Timothy Kyalo <this.gizmo@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Signet, I'm yet to receive any of these [FOX,Premier,Serie A], I get so many Christian and Islamic Channels :( Could it be a a model version issue?
On 18 October 2010 16:22, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Now, this is funny coz I have sound with no video on signet.
On 18 October 2010 16:13, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote: > > any contacts for "signet" or rather that company responsible for > that > guys? > > At least i know am not alone and wont chokora anymore - watching > FREE > Serie A and premier league(some) and movies for free is amazing :) > > Would really appreciate. > > KBC guys inhouse?? > > Wilson. > > > > > On 18 October 2010 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Same here....it seems to be for intermittent for FOX though.... >> Bernard >> >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Guys, >>> >>> >>> Am just wondering why some channels on the DTV (including the >>> sports >>> channels - premier league and serie A, FOX among others) do not >>> have >>> sound/audio. >>> Have tried tweak the device to no avail. >>> >>> HELP!!! >>> >>> Wilson. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Those looking to acquire set top boxes. Fisrt find out if the ministry sorted out which technology they really want to implement. At one time, there wa stalk of 3 different technologies been considered , some on political basis (Brazil), others on a technical basis

Just buy the boxes KBC is selling.. Those are the right ones. I guess they want use to buy a card for us to listen to sound. I also recieve the same Channels, BBC, MTV Fox , Nolly but they have no sound. The gospel ones though have sound. Other require you buy a card to decrypt. Sijui niongee na KBC vizuri? On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 21 October 2010 13:26, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
Just buy the boxes KBC is selling.. Those are the right ones. I guess they want use to buy a card for us to listen to sound. I also recieve the same Channels, BBC, MTV Fox , Nolly but they have no sound. The gospel ones though have sound.
Other require you buy a card to decrypt. Sijui niongee na KBC vizuri?
Yah, thats why i need KBC contact, kwani si they should say if they want us to buy card for decrypting or at least give a number/sales team contact :( KBC yaawa!
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hey Guys, I found out that the STAR DTV sold/prefered by KBC/SIGNET? is the issue - probably decoding/scrambling issue - no idea, SOMEHOW, i installed another DTV (from china - no name?) supplied by a guy in this forum and worked - sound is amazing! Watching manu rattled by aston was a dream come true...... -- Wilson. On 21 October 2010 13:35, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
On 21 October 2010 13:26, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
Just buy the boxes KBC is selling.. Those are the right ones. I guess they want use to buy a card for us to listen to sound. I also recieve the same Channels, BBC, MTV Fox , Nolly but they have no sound. The gospel ones though have sound.
Other require you buy a card to decrypt. Sijui niongee na KBC vizuri?
Yah, thats why i need KBC contact, kwani si they should say if they want us to buy card for decrypting or at least give a number/sales team contact :(
KBC yaawa!
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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yo Thuo, Could you share the contacts of the jamaa that hooked you up the DTV that works? Rgds On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Guys,
I found out that the STAR DTV sold/prefered by KBC/SIGNET? is the issue - probably decoding/scrambling issue - no idea, SOMEHOW, i installed another DTV (from china - no name?) supplied by a guy in this forum and worked - sound is amazing! Watching manu rattled by aston was a dream come true......
-- Wilson.
On 21 October 2010 13:35, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
On 21 October 2010 13:26, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
Just buy the boxes KBC is selling.. Those are the right ones. I guess they want use to buy a card for us to listen to sound. I also recieve the same Channels, BBC, MTV Fox , Nolly but they have no sound. The gospel ones though have sound.
Other require you buy a card to decrypt. Sijui niongee na KBC vizuri?
Yah, thats why i need KBC contact, kwani si they should say if they want us to buy card for decrypting or at least give a number/sales team contact :(
KBC yaawa!
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Right here; "Bernard Mwagiru" <bmwagiru@gmail.com>, Anakuona. Wilson. On 18 November 2010 15:55, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
yo Thuo,
Could you share the contacts of the jamaa that hooked you up the DTV that works?
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Guys,
I found out that the STAR DTV sold/prefered by KBC/SIGNET? is the issue - probably decoding/scrambling issue - no idea, SOMEHOW, i installed another DTV (from china - no name?) supplied by a guy in this forum and worked - sound is amazing! Watching manu rattled by aston was a dream come true......
-- Wilson.
On 21 October 2010 13:35, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
On 21 October 2010 13:26, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
Just buy the boxes KBC is selling.. Those are the right ones. I guess they want use to buy a card for us to listen to sound. I also recieve
the
same Channels, BBC, MTV Fox , Nolly but they have no sound. The gospel ones though have sound.
Other require you buy a card to decrypt. Sijui niongee na KBC vizuri?
Yah, thats why i need KBC contact, kwani si they should say if they want us to buy card for decrypting or at least give a number/sales team contact :(
KBC yaawa!
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
wrote:
Those looking to acquire set top boxes. Fisrt find out if the ministry sorted out which technology they really want to implement. At one
time,
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Ditto above. Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still under test in some parts of Europe.

hapo sawa! Thanx mara hiyo hiyo! On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Ditto above.
Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still under test in some parts of Europe. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over almost everything. On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hapo sawa!
Thanx mara hiyo hiyo!
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Ditto above.
Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still under test in some parts of Europe. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Hey guys, Just sold the last piece to Wilson. The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) with new devices. DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given bandwidth. And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will receive.... If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer.... Cheers! Bernard On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over almost everything.
On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hapo sawa!
Thanx mara hiyo hiyo!
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Ditto above.
Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still under test in some parts of Europe. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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From the grapevine, there's a new Digital Terestial Transmission(DTT) company in Nairobi called Smart TV which is soon to roll out their Pay TV package which will comprise some of TOPTV SA channels like Sliver and Show time. They've been running some test signals from Signet....Now, this brings up another issue, for pay-tv, some form of subscription using Conditional Access smart cards will be required. Do those Star set-top boxes have any provision for smart card use?
Bernard On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Just sold the last piece to Wilson.
The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) with new devices. DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given bandwidth. And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will receive....
If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer....
Cheers!
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over almost everything.
On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hapo sawa!
Thanx mara hiyo hiyo!
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Ditto above.
Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still under test in some parts of Europe. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Yeah, I've seen one in our office that has a slot for the smart card. On 18 November 2010 17:13, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
From the grapevine, there's a new Digital Terestial Transmission(DTT) company in Nairobi called Smart TV which is soon to roll out their Pay TV package which will comprise some of TOPTV SA channels like Sliver and Show time. They've been running some test signals from Signet....Now, this brings up another issue, for pay-tv, some form of subscription using Conditional Access smart cards will be required. Do those Star set-top boxes have any provision for smart card use?
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys, Just sold the last piece to Wilson.
The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) with new devices. DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given bandwidth. And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will receive....
If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer....
Cheers!
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over almost everything.
On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hapo sawa!
Thanx mara hiyo hiyo!
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Ditto above.
Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still under test in some parts of Europe. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Ok, thats good to know but I once saw one at a friend's place;the picture had small distinct lines cross from right to left on the screen....or perhaps it was the telly's problem... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I've seen one in our office that has a slot for the smart card.
On 18 November 2010 17:13, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
From the grapevine, there's a new Digital Terestial Transmission(DTT) company in Nairobi called Smart TV which is soon to roll out their Pay TV package which will comprise some of TOPTV SA channels like Sliver and Show time. They've been running some test signals from Signet....Now, this brings up another issue, for pay-tv, some form of subscription using Conditional Access smart cards will be required. Do those Star set-top boxes have any provision for smart card use?
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys, Just sold the last piece to Wilson.
The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) with new devices. DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given bandwidth. And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will receive....
If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer....
Cheers!
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over almost everything.
On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hapo sawa!
Thanx mara hiyo hiyo!
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Ditto above.
Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still under test in some parts of Europe. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, thats good to know but I once saw one at a friend's place;the picture had small distinct lines cross from right to left on the screen....or perhaps it was the telly's problem...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I've seen one in our office that has a slot for the smart card.
On 18 November 2010 17:13, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
From the grapevine, there's a new Digital Terestial Transmission(DTT) company in Nairobi called Smart TV which is soon to roll out their Pay TV package which will comprise some of TOPTV SA channels like Sliver and Show time. They've been running some test signals from Signet....Now, this brings up another issue, for pay-tv, some form of subscription using Conditional Access smart cards will be required. Do those Star set-top boxes have any provision for smart card use?
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys, Just sold the last piece to Wilson.
The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) with new devices. DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given bandwidth. And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will receive....
If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer....
Cheers!
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com>wrote:
Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over almost everything.
On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
hapo sawa!
Thanx mara hiyo hiyo!
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: > Ditto above. > > Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still under > test in some parts of Europe. > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke
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Bernard, Its not only our beloved Kenya. South Africa seems to be experiencing the same pressure from Brazil & Japan. Its a wait & see time, because if South Africa go ISDB the entire SADC region might go the same way and influence us as well. Haven't read much about it but what are the major differences and pros and cons of each standard? Kind regards -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|

DTT technologies are about how efficiently bandwidth can be optimized. Both ISDB-T and DVB-T support the transmission of the same broadcast all over a given territory on the same assigned radio channel. This maximizes the efficiency of radio channels used - although this advantage has been more of a test-bed curiosity than a practical form of deployment thus far. ISDB-T can transmit a HDTV channel and a mobile phone channel with a channel of 6MHz bandwidth. ISDB-T can change to two or three SDTV channels instead of one HDTV channel. Combination of these services can be changed anytime. ISDB-T provides interactive services with data broadcasting. ISDB-T supports the internet access that work in collaboration with the data broadcasting. And the internet access is also provided on mobile phone. ISDB-T provides robustness to multipath (Ghost) interference. ISDB-T provides robustness to co-channel analog television interference. ISDB-T provides robustness to impulse noises that come down from motor cycles and power lines in urban city. DVB-T also shares some most of the above features apart from the interactiveness and internet access. In Kenya we use both DVB-T Mpeg 2 offering Freeview Channels and also DVB-T mpeg 4 which hosts all local station under Signet. Advantages of MPEG-4 over MPEG-2 are pretty obvious. But what advantages brings us DVB-T2? The DVB-T2 standard was finalized in June 2008. It brings us many improvements and features that increase capacity and robustness of the transmission channel.UK was one of the first countries that started using DVB-T back in 1997. Introduction of HDTV will bring two advanced technologies: DVB-T2 as transmission standard and MPEG-4 as coding standard. In general, DVB-T2 offers around 50% increase in capacity over DVB-T. DVB-T2 together with MPEG-4 form an advanced system for digital terrestrial television broadcasting. It is very likely that this combination will be widely used in the future and it will not be superseded with some even more advanced technology for years. However, the fact is that we live in a world full of surprises....and uncertainty...which is why the earlier the govt make the switch, the better it is for consumers... Bernard On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Ok, thats good to know but I once saw one at a friend's place;the picture had small distinct lines cross from right to left on the screen....or perhaps it was the telly's problem...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I've seen one in our office that has a slot for the smart card.
On 18 November 2010 17:13, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
From the grapevine, there's a new Digital Terestial Transmission(DTT) company in Nairobi called Smart TV which is soon to roll out their Pay TV package which will comprise some of TOPTV SA channels like Sliver and Show time. They've been running some test signals from Signet....Now, this brings up another issue, for pay-tv, some form of subscription using Conditional Access smart cards will be required. Do those Star set-top boxes have any provision for smart card use?
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys, Just sold the last piece to Wilson.
The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) with new devices. DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given bandwidth. And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will receive....
If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer....
Cheers!
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com>wrote:
Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over almost everything.
On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote:
> hapo sawa! > > Thanx mara hiyo hiyo! > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Ditto above. > > > > Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's still > under > > test in some parts of Europe. > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Bernard,
Its not only our beloved Kenya. South Africa seems to be experiencing the same pressure from Brazil & Japan. Its a wait & see time, because if South Africa go ISDB the entire SADC region might go the same way and influence us as well. Haven't read much about it but what are the major differences and pros and cons of each standard?
Kind regards -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
DTT technologies are about how efficiently bandwidth can be optimized. Both ISDB-T and DVB-T support the transmission of the same broadcast all over a given territory on the same assigned radio channel. This maximizes the efficiency of radio channels used - although this advantage has been more of a test-bed curiosity than a practical form of deployment thus far. ISDB-T can transmit a HDTV channel and a mobile phone channel with a channel of 6MHz bandwidth. ISDB-T can change to two or three SDTV channels instead of one HDTV channel. Combination of these services can be changed anytime. ISDB-T provides interactive services with data broadcasting. ISDB-T supports the internet access that work in collaboration with the data broadcasting. And the internet access is also provided on mobile phone. ISDB-T provides robustness to multipath (Ghost) interference. ISDB-T provides robustness to co-channel analog television interference. ISDB-T provides robustness to impulse noises that come down from motor cycles and power lines in urban city.
DVB-T also shares some most of the above features apart from the interactiveness and internet access. In Kenya we use both DVB-T Mpeg 2 offering Freeview Channels and also DVB-T mpeg 4 which hosts all local station under Signet. Advantages of MPEG-4 over MPEG-2 are pretty obvious. But what advantages brings us DVB-T2? The DVB-T2 standard was finalized in June 2008. It brings us many improvements and features that increase capacity and robustness of the transmission channel.UK was one of the first countries that started using DVB-T back in 1997. Introduction of HDTV will bring two advanced technologies: DVB-T2 as transmission standard and MPEG-4 as coding standard. In general, DVB-T2 offers around 50% increase in capacity over DVB-T. DVB-T2 together with MPEG-4 form an advanced system for digital terrestrial television broadcasting. It is very likely that this combination will be widely used in the future and it will not be superseded with some even more advanced technology for years. However, the fact is that we live in a world full of surprises....and uncertainty...which is why the earlier the govt make the switch, the better it is for consumers...
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Ok, thats good to know but I once saw one at a friend's place;the picture had small distinct lines cross from right to left on the screen....or perhaps it was the telly's problem...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I've seen one in our office that has a slot for the smart card.
On 18 November 2010 17:13, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
From the grapevine, there's a new Digital Terestial Transmission(DTT) company in Nairobi called Smart TV which is soon to roll out their Pay TV package which will comprise some of TOPTV SA channels like Sliver and Show time. They've been running some test signals from Signet....Now, this brings up another issue, for pay-tv, some form of subscription using Conditional Access smart cards will be required. Do those Star set-top boxes have any provision for smart card use?
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Hey guys, Just sold the last piece to Wilson.
The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) with new devices. DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given bandwidth. And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will receive....
If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer....
Cheers!
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com>wrote:
> Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over > almost everything. > > > On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote: > >> hapo sawa! >> >> Thanx mara hiyo hiyo! >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Ditto above. >> > >> > Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's >> still under >> > test in some parts of Europe. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Bernard,
Its not only our beloved Kenya. South Africa seems to be experiencing the same pressure from Brazil & Japan. Its a wait & see time, because if South Africa go ISDB the entire SADC region might go the same way and influence us as well. Haven't read much about it but what are the major differences and pros and cons of each standard?
Kind regards -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|
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@Bernard a) So if I read this right, essentially ISDB-T has more to offer than the DVB-T current implementation standard? b) Can ISDB-T offer triple play natively as is? I know that to switch standards now would be costly but if b) above is true wouldn't we be in a better situation in the long run. I know the cost of ISDB-T end-user equipment is quite expensive at the moment, but if SADC & Eastern Africa adopt it, the cost would definetly go lower? Is there anyone(country) pushing for DVB-T? If so what do they have to gain from it. Regards, -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|

@Brian, If i would be asked, I would personal say we upgrade to DVB-T2 than change to ISDB-T. Probably the only reasonable way of introducing new broadcast technology is with new service. You simply offer new, attractive service which, of course, uses new technology. Anybody interested in this new service would need to buy a new set-top-box and, therefore, will never ask questions about technology and standards. A brilliant example of this approach is the introduction of HDTV in the UK. As i suggested earlier, it might be good if we got someone from the digital TV regulators or Signet or the PS himself just to assist us in understanding what's going on. Some time back, I met a Chinese vendor, as a supplier of digital broadcasting equipment, and he was not pleased with what he found/met in Kenya, citing lack of clear-cut direction with the regulators.... Bernard On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
DTT technologies are about how efficiently bandwidth can be optimized. Both ISDB-T and DVB-T support the transmission of the same broadcast all over a given territory on the same assigned radio channel. This maximizes the efficiency of radio channels used - although this advantage has been more of a test-bed curiosity than a practical form of deployment thus far. ISDB-T can transmit a HDTV channel and a mobile phone channel with a channel of 6MHz bandwidth. ISDB-T can change to two or three SDTV channels instead of one HDTV channel. Combination of these services can be changed anytime. ISDB-T provides interactive services with data broadcasting. ISDB-T supports the internet access that work in collaboration with the data broadcasting. And the internet access is also provided on mobile phone. ISDB-T provides robustness to multipath (Ghost) interference. ISDB-T provides robustness to co-channel analog television interference. ISDB-T provides robustness to impulse noises that come down from motor cycles and power lines in urban city.
DVB-T also shares some most of the above features apart from the interactiveness and internet access. In Kenya we use both DVB-T Mpeg 2 offering Freeview Channels and also DVB-T mpeg 4 which hosts all local station under Signet. Advantages of MPEG-4 over MPEG-2 are pretty obvious. But what advantages brings us DVB-T2? The DVB-T2 standard was finalized in June 2008. It brings us many improvements and features that increase capacity and robustness of the transmission channel.UK was one of the first countries that started using DVB-T back in 1997. Introduction of HDTV will bring two advanced technologies: DVB-T2 as transmission standard and MPEG-4 as coding standard. In general, DVB-T2 offers around 50% increase in capacity over DVB-T. DVB-T2 together with MPEG-4 form an advanced system for digital terrestrial television broadcasting. It is very likely that this combination will be widely used in the future and it will not be superseded with some even more advanced technology for years. However, the fact is that we live in a world full of surprises....and uncertainty...which is why the earlier the govt make the switch, the better it is for consumers...
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Ok, thats good to know but I once saw one at a friend's place;the picture had small distinct lines cross from right to left on the screen....or perhaps it was the telly's problem...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com>wrote:
Yeah, I've seen one in our office that has a slot for the smart card.
On 18 November 2010 17:13, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
From the grapevine, there's a new Digital Terestial Transmission(DTT) company in Nairobi called Smart TV which is soon to roll out their Pay TV package which will comprise some of TOPTV SA channels like Sliver and Show time. They've been running some test signals from Signet....Now, this brings up another issue, for pay-tv, some form of subscription using Conditional Access smart cards will be required. Do those Star set-top boxes have any provision for smart card use?
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hey guys, > Just sold the last piece to Wilson. > > The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is > that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are > willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards > ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. > Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top > boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever > compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. > And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that > decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting > is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and > receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission > standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) > with new devices. > DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is > currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. > The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given > bandwidth. > And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 > compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD > signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will > receive.... > > If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to > Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer.... > > Cheers! > > Bernard > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking over >> almost everything. >> >> >> On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> hapo sawa! >>> >>> Thanx mara hiyo hiyo! >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Ditto above. >>> > >>> > Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's >>> still under >>> > test in some parts of Europe. >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> > ------------ >>> > Skunkworks Rules >>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> > ------------ >>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >
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Bernard,
Its not only our beloved Kenya. South Africa seems to be experiencing the same pressure from Brazil & Japan. Its a wait & see time, because if South Africa go ISDB the entire SADC region might go the same way and influence us as well. Haven't read much about it but what are the major differences and pros and cons of each standard?
Kind regards -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|
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@Bernard
a) So if I read this right, essentially ISDB-T has more to offer than the DVB-T current implementation standard? b) Can ISDB-T offer triple play natively as is? I know that to switch standards now would be costly but if b) above is true wouldn't we be in a better situation in the long run. I know the cost of ISDB-T end-user equipment is quite expensive at the moment, but if SADC & Eastern Africa adopt it, the cost would definetly go lower? Is there anyone(country) pushing for DVB-T? If so what do they have to gain from it.
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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
@Brian, If i would be asked, I would personal say we upgrade to DVB-T2 than change to ISDB-T. Probably the only reasonable way of introducing new broadcast technology is with new service. You simply offer new, attractive service which, of course, uses new technology. Anybody interested in this new service would need to buy a new set-top-box and, therefore, will never ask questions about technology and standards. A brilliant example of this approach is the introduction of HDTV in the UK. As i suggested earlier, it might be good if we got someone from the digital TV regulators or Signet or the PS himself just to assist us in understanding what's going on. Some time back, I met a Chinese vendor, as a supplier of digital broadcasting equipment, and he was not pleased with what he found/met in Kenya, citing lack of clear-cut direction with the regulators....
Bernard
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
DTT technologies are about how efficiently bandwidth can be optimized. Both ISDB-T and DVB-T support the transmission of the same broadcast all over a given territory on the same assigned radio channel. This maximizes the efficiency of radio channels used - although this advantage has been more of a test-bed curiosity than a practical form of deployment thus far. ISDB-T can transmit a HDTV channel and a mobile phone channel with a channel of 6MHz bandwidth. ISDB-T can change to two or three SDTV channels instead of one HDTV channel. Combination of these services can be changed anytime. ISDB-T provides interactive services with data broadcasting. ISDB-T supports the internet access that work in collaboration with the data broadcasting. And the internet access is also provided on mobile phone. ISDB-T provides robustness to multipath (Ghost) interference. ISDB-T provides robustness to co-channel analog television interference. ISDB-T provides robustness to impulse noises that come down from motor cycles and power lines in urban city.
DVB-T also shares some most of the above features apart from the interactiveness and internet access. In Kenya we use both DVB-T Mpeg 2 offering Freeview Channels and also DVB-T mpeg 4 which hosts all local station under Signet. Advantages of MPEG-4 over MPEG-2 are pretty obvious. But what advantages brings us DVB-T2? The DVB-T2 standard was finalized in June 2008. It brings us many improvements and features that increase capacity and robustness of the transmission channel.UK was one of the first countries that started using DVB-T back in 1997. Introduction of HDTV will bring two advanced technologies: DVB-T2 as transmission standard and MPEG-4 as coding standard. In general, DVB-T2 offers around 50% increase in capacity over DVB-T. DVB-T2 together with MPEG-4 form an advanced system for digital terrestrial television broadcasting. It is very likely that this combination will be widely used in the future and it will not be superseded with some even more advanced technology for years. However, the fact is that we live in a world full of surprises....and uncertainty...which is why the earlier the govt make the switch, the better it is for consumers...
Bernard
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
Ok, thats good to know but I once saw one at a friend's place;the picture had small distinct lines cross from right to left on the screen....or perhaps it was the telly's problem...
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com>wrote:
Yeah, I've seen one in our office that has a slot for the smart card.
On 18 November 2010 17:13, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
> From the grapevine, there's a new Digital Terestial Transmission(DTT) > company in Nairobi called Smart TV which is soon to roll out their Pay TV > package which will comprise some of TOPTV SA channels like Sliver and Show > time. They've been running some test signals from Signet....Now, this brings > up another issue, for pay-tv, some form of subscription using Conditional > Access smart cards will be required. Do those Star set-top boxes have any > provision for smart card use? > > Bernard > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> Just sold the last piece to Wilson. >> >> The biggest problem I have with Digital TV regulators and Signet is >> that they seem not to be clear on which direction/transmission they are >> willing to take. Brazil even sent there prezzy to try and lure Kenya towards >> ISDB-T and now there's talk of DVB-T2. >> Some ppl have even started experiencing issues with Star Set-top >> boxes, probably because they might not be compatible with whatever >> compression method Signet are playing around with,etc..etc.. >> And once you choose a transmission standard you don't change that >> decision for quite some time. Transmission standard for digital broadcasting >> is one of the basic properties that defines the equipment (transmitters and >> receivers) that can be used in specific country. Changing the transmission >> standard means replacing receivers and transmitters (at least the modulator) >> with new devices. >> DVB-T is actually an upgrade and is backward compatible.It is >> currently broadcasting in parts of the UK under the brand name Freeview HD. >> The standards are mostly about how much can be transmitted in a given >> bandwidth. >> And no...I dont know whether the set-top box I have is DVB-T2 >> compliant or not.What I do know is that when Signet start transmitting HD >> signals, they'll probably use DVB-T2 and none of those Star models will >> receive.... >> >> If someone knows a techie from KBC/Signet, please introduce him to >> Skunkworks....He will have a ton of queries to answer.... >> >> Cheers! >> >> Bernard >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:33 PM, mash lists <mashlists@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Thuo, I also want the contacts. Looks like China will be taking >>> over almost everything. >>> >>> >>> On 18 November 2010 16:03, Anthony Lenya <tlensya@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> hapo sawa! >>>> >>>> Thanx mara hiyo hiyo! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tony Likhanga < >>>> tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Ditto above. >>>> > >>>> > Anyone knows where I can get a DVB-T2 decoder? The one that's >>>> still under >>>> > test in some parts of Europe. >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Skunkworks mailing list >>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Skunkworks Rules >>>> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> > ------------ >>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Bernard,
Its not only our beloved Kenya. South Africa seems to be experiencing the same pressure from Brazil & Japan. Its a wait & see time, because if South Africa go ISDB the entire SADC region might go the same way and influence us as well. Haven't read much about it but what are the major differences and pros and cons of each standard?
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@Bernard
a) So if I read this right, essentially ISDB-T has more to offer than the DVB-T current implementation standard? b) Can ISDB-T offer triple play natively as is? I know that to switch standards now would be costly but if b) above is true wouldn't we be in a better situation in the long run. I know the cost of ISDB-T end-user equipment is quite expensive at the moment, but if SADC & Eastern Africa adopt it, the cost would definetly go lower? Is there anyone(country) pushing for DVB-T? If so what do they have to gain from it.
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@Bernard, I think a decision has been made and your wish has been granted. Kenya has decided to upgrade to dvb-t2. I wonder whats going to happen to smart tv and early adopters...suxx Kind regards, -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|

Good stuff there Brian, any links/references? I'm waiting to see the implementation. Either way I'm still searching for a DVB-T2 receiver box. For the early adopters, I presume this will be a phased migration. In any case that's how the DVB-T2 "syndicate" proposes.

On 1 December 2010 17:49, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Good stuff there Brian, any links/references? I'm waiting to see the implementation. Either way I'm still searching for a DVB-T2 receiver box. For the early adopters, I presume this will be a phased migration. In any case that's how the DVB-T2 "syndicate" proposes.
Bitange Ndemo has just said it. Wilson
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On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1 December 2010 17:49, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com> wrote:
Good stuff there Brian, any links/references? I'm waiting to see the implementation. Either way I'm still searching for a DVB-T2 receiver box. For the early adopters, I presume this will be a phased migration. In any case that's how the DVB-T2 "syndicate" proposes.
Bitange Ndemo has just said it.
Wilson
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OK, I have not been paying attention to news over the last one week, there was an article regarding Media Owners Association having beef with DTV transmission. Apparently NTV & Citizen have withdrawn streams to KBC's signet. Anybody who can inform me, what the hullabaloo is all about? Kind regards, -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|
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Anthony Lenya
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