Re: [Skunkworks] [kictanet] Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese
Chinese Cyber Army is always known to go for Telecommunications and Government networks, and due to that we know the main CIA station in Africa is in Nairobi US Embassy and then take the understanding of C4ISR thats used by all Cyber Armies, we all now where this is going, lemmie stop there :D On 12/5/14, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
STATEMENT FROM CHINESE EMBASSY IN NAIROBI... AFTER MISTAKENLY SENDING OUT A REPORT BY CHINA DAILY....
***** *CORRECTION - THIS IS THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM CHINESE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESPERSON HUA CHUNYING - THE PREVIOUS INFORMATION IS THE REPORTING BY CHINA DAILY AND THEREFORE ANYONE WISHING TO USE IT SHOULD QUOTE CHINA DAILY.*
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying's Regular Press Conference on December 5, 2014 2014/12/05
*Q: The Kenyan police arrested 77 Chinese people suspected of financial fraud. Please give us more details on this case and what efforts has China made.*
A: We have noted this report. Investigation is still underway and initial assessment shows that this is likely to be a telecommunication fraud case. China and Kenya enjoy long-standing friendship, and the Chinese side resolutely supports the Kenyan side in combating all forms of illegal and criminal activities. We will actively cooperate with the Kenyan side to carry out investigation and handle the case in accordance with law. Meanwhile, we also hope that the Kenyan side can safeguard the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese citizens being involved and properly deal with this case in a law-abiding and just way.
*****
ALLEGED CHINA DAILY REPORT SENT OUT BY CHINESE EMBASSY ALLEGEDLY BY MISTAKE:
(sic) See attached, Statement by the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mrs Hua Chunying on the 77 arrested communications fraudsters in Nairobi.
*The Chinese Embassy in Kenya will also release an official statement in the course of the day.*
Arrested 77 suspects in Nairobi may be involved in a telecommunication fraud and China will cooperate with relative parties to break the case, according to the Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Hua Chunying.
Hua said China and Kenya enjoy a long-term friendship and China strongly supports Kenya's efforts on fighting against all kinds of crimes. China will also collaborate with Kenya to conduct relative investigation and bring criminals to justice, she said in a regular press conference in Beijing on Friday.
"We also hope Kenyan authorities could ensure Chinese citizens' lawful rights, and process this case in a justice and lawful manner," she added.
Earlier this week Kenya police found a large number of unregistered communication equipments in a villa near the office of United Nations Environment Programme in its capital city Nairobi, when they were investigating over a fire that killed one Chinese.
When spotted the equipments and many other suspicious tools in the house, the police then arrested 77 suspects.
Sources said one of the suspects is a Thailand passport holder and the rest are from the Chinese mainland and Taiwan.
Tele fraud gang's dens previously were found in various regions and southeastern Asian countries including Indonesia, Philippine, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Malaysia and Singapore. This case may further signal a relocation of this kind of crime ring to Africa.
The number of telecommunication fraud cases in China has exceeded 300,000 in 2013, resulting in a loss of more than 10 billion yuan ($1.63 billion), according to Chinese National Congress deputy Chen Weicai.
This kind of crimes mostly targeted at Chinese citizens by calling them to transfer certain amount of money to designated accounts based on fabricated reasons and the callers were normally in the name of a public authority, including police, court, or banks. As the callers' number appeared on the cell phone was changed to the official number of respective authority by special technologies, so victims followed their instructions although with suspicions.
In October, Egypt police unearthed a fraud ring and arrested 96 Chinese suspects accused of telecommunication fraud. The police said 56 of them are from the Chinese mainland and the other 40 are from China's Taiwan province.
In May, police from Fujian province uncovered two fraud gangs. In one case, a woman surnamed Shi from Shishi city was defrauded over six million yuan. The woman was called continually since March 30 by people claiming themselves as officials from post office, public security bureau and procuratorate. They told Shi that she was suspected to be involved in money launder and needed to transfer her money to safe accounts.
The police arrested 35 suspects and found the two gangs were based in Indonesia and Kenya. They carried out the fraud and then drew the money in Taiwan.
***** ENDS
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Cyberwarfare has changed, a lot over the year. Its not only sitting at the computer scanning networks and other Commandline stuff. These days Cyber Warfare is under the same framework The Defense uses, called C4ISR. This also applies to Penetration Testers like me, especially when we are doing Black Box Penetration testing. Lemmie give you an example. Earlier this year we were doing a Penetration testing in a big firm in Southern Africa. They had their own VPN between countries and one point of Entry to the Internet (They Believed so). So i became a Janitor for one week and then i went ahead and found out the IT supporting company, and i went on to the HQ offices pretending to be staff of the IT Company, with business cards and other IDs. From there getting into KAV and getting a connect-back Binary as an AV agent to the whole company was just easy. All machines connected with a system shell to my CNC.
So, i think with Cyber Warfare, the same applies everywhere, and what we should do is be afraid of those Nations that we don't know, what they are doing the same.
So what is Cyberwarfare
a) Cyber Espionage b) Cyber Terrorism - Cyber-jihad c) Cyber Hacktivism d) Cyber Sabotage e) Information Warfare etc etc.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Chuks,
Very interesting development...instead of attracting chinese tourists, we seem to be attracting chinese hackers :-)
But on a serious note, i still dont understand WHY they needed to be resident in Kenya in order to execute thier cybercrime when they can do safely from their homes in China.
Or maybe they were sniffing the local airwaves in rich neighbourhoods of Runda for wi-fi passwords - but you dont need a whole battaliion and server room to do that. Very fishy indeed.
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 12/4/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014, 11:11 AM
Lemmie patch up this discussion to the other main mail list, for awareness.
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Lets take a look at the strategic positions where these guys are located. Well even not much information has been release, a good yagi antenna can go really far as an example.
I also think the story will just die down and we will never hear about it again.
The government however will need to speed up forensics of these servers and all to know what kind of activities were being carried around. But again, I highly doubt we will get to know the details. Another good read here
http://www.kahawatungu.com/2014/09/06/chinese-hackers-embarassed-uhuru-usa/
Lets not turn a blind eye to all these before it is too late.
~ze3D~
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:54 PM, fredrick Wahome via Security < security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The reason why the government will not allow media into the rooms to capture the real setups....This will be just forgotten as Kanyaris issue. It must be a big operational group with safe havens spread across the country. How I wish the digital government would invest in cyber intelligence. But for now this will remain just a wish...
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:45 AM, John Doe. <agikabia@gmail.com> wrote:
As someone commented earlier,most guys on this list have equipments running in their homes as well. The information being provided is really not clear on what they were doing. Most likely as fredrick has said and i tend to agree,this guys were actually up to no good. The question that begs is this. Since our government turned to the East for Financial Support.loans etc...do you really think China will allow these guys to be placed behind bars in kenya? Most likely this story will go quiet and not be remembered. I just tend to imagine how many other places may be in operation in kenya and even being run by other nationalities.
Regards Antony
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:33 AM, fredrick Wahome via Security < security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
I have every reason to believe this is a cyber espionage by these Chinese guys. Peeped into some conversation on IRC with some blackhats in 2012 and they mentioned something like Chinese CyberSpy ring operating in Nairobi. However they are spying all over Africa with Runda being one of their safe house. But as obvious if you try to alert the government the Ruaraka boys will actually start investigating you
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Adam Nelson via Security < security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
> The reporting and statements by GoK are still too vague to understand > what actually happened. Half the people on this list have network > equipment and servers in their house. And if you were running a serious > cybercrime syndicate in a house, you don't need dozens of people to do it. > > -- > Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io > Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> > More Musings: varud.com > About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Mark Kipyegon via Security < > security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> A more recent news report now claims the group is being charged in >> court with illegally operating a radio station. The same report then links >> this "cyber-crime command centre" to hacking facebook accounts, mpesa >> fraud, card theft and bizarrely, "Police said the Chinese were preparing to >> raid the country's communication systems". >> >> Would anyone have more usable information on this? >> >> -- >> Mark. >> >> On 2 Dec 2014, at 14:20, "Almerindo Graziano via Security" < >> security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >> the entire country is welcoming supplies and services from China >> across the ENTIRE critical infrastructure..That worries me more in terms of >> cyber warfare. No need of backdoor when you are let in through the front >> door :-) >> >> Hence I seriously doubt the news is related to cyber warfare >> Al >> >> On 02/12/2014 14:07, Adam Nelson via Security wrote: >> >> And it might just be that these guys are working on an oilfield in >> Turkana and have VHF radios and Runda is their HQ and they simply didn't >> have the correct visas. >> >> >> -- >> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io >> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> >> More Musings: varud.com >> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Robin Wood via Security < >> security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> On 2 December 2014 at 10:28, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via Security >>> <security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> > Cyber Warfare is real >>> >>> I would agree that Cyber Warefare is real but would say that this is >>> possibly more like normal criminality than warfare. >>> >>> Robin >>> >>> >>> > ---------- Forwarded message
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Hey Chuks, been reading your blog, does these two posts relate with whats going on at Runda? http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/2014/10/china-elfs.html http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/2014/11/new-wave-of-attacks-this-post-is.html On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Chinese Cyber Army is always known to go for Telecommunications and Government networks, and due to that we know the main CIA station in Africa is in Nairobi US Embassy and then take the understanding of C4ISR thats used by all Cyber Armies, we all now where this is going, lemmie stop there :D
On 12/5/14, Peter Wakaba <peterwakaba@gmail.com> wrote:
STATEMENT FROM CHINESE EMBASSY IN NAIROBI... AFTER MISTAKENLY SENDING OUT A REPORT BY CHINA DAILY....
***** *CORRECTION - THIS IS THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM CHINESE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESPERSON HUA CHUNYING - THE PREVIOUS INFORMATION IS THE REPORTING BY CHINA DAILY AND THEREFORE ANYONE WISHING TO USE IT SHOULD QUOTE CHINA DAILY.*
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying's Regular Press Conference on December 5, 2014 2014/12/05
*Q: The Kenyan police arrested 77 Chinese people suspected of financial fraud. Please give us more details on this case and what efforts has China made.*
A: We have noted this report. Investigation is still underway and initial assessment shows that this is likely to be a telecommunication fraud case. China and Kenya enjoy long-standing friendship, and the Chinese side resolutely supports the Kenyan side in combating all forms of illegal and criminal activities. We will actively cooperate with the Kenyan side to carry out investigation and handle the case in accordance with law. Meanwhile, we also hope that the Kenyan side can safeguard the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese citizens being involved and properly deal with this case in a law-abiding and just way.
*****
ALLEGED CHINA DAILY REPORT SENT OUT BY CHINESE EMBASSY ALLEGEDLY BY MISTAKE:
(sic) See attached, Statement by the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mrs Hua Chunying on the 77 arrested communications fraudsters in Nairobi.
*The Chinese Embassy in Kenya will also release an official statement in the course of the day.*
Arrested 77 suspects in Nairobi may be involved in a telecommunication fraud and China will cooperate with relative parties to break the case, according to the Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Hua Chunying.
Hua said China and Kenya enjoy a long-term friendship and China strongly supports Kenya's efforts on fighting against all kinds of crimes. China will also collaborate with Kenya to conduct relative investigation and bring criminals to justice, she said in a regular press conference in Beijing on Friday.
"We also hope Kenyan authorities could ensure Chinese citizens' lawful rights, and process this case in a justice and lawful manner," she added.
Earlier this week Kenya police found a large number of unregistered communication equipments in a villa near the office of United Nations Environment Programme in its capital city Nairobi, when they were investigating over a fire that killed one Chinese.
When spotted the equipments and many other suspicious tools in the house, the police then arrested 77 suspects.
Sources said one of the suspects is a Thailand passport holder and the rest are from the Chinese mainland and Taiwan.
Tele fraud gang's dens previously were found in various regions and southeastern Asian countries including Indonesia, Philippine, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Malaysia and Singapore. This case may further signal a relocation of this kind of crime ring to Africa.
The number of telecommunication fraud cases in China has exceeded 300,000 in 2013, resulting in a loss of more than 10 billion yuan ($1.63 billion), according to Chinese National Congress deputy Chen Weicai.
This kind of crimes mostly targeted at Chinese citizens by calling them to transfer certain amount of money to designated accounts based on fabricated reasons and the callers were normally in the name of a public authority, including police, court, or banks. As the callers' number appeared on the cell phone was changed to the official number of respective authority by special technologies, so victims followed their instructions although with suspicions.
In October, Egypt police unearthed a fraud ring and arrested 96 Chinese suspects accused of telecommunication fraud. The police said 56 of them are from the Chinese mainland and the other 40 are from China's Taiwan province.
In May, police from Fujian province uncovered two fraud gangs. In one case, a woman surnamed Shi from Shishi city was defrauded over six million yuan. The woman was called continually since March 30 by people claiming themselves as officials from post office, public security bureau and procuratorate. They told Shi that she was suspected to be involved in money launder and needed to transfer her money to safe accounts.
The police arrested 35 suspects and found the two gangs were based in Indonesia and Kenya. They carried out the fraud and then drew the money in Taiwan.
***** ENDS
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Cyberwarfare has changed, a lot over the year. Its not only sitting at the computer scanning networks and other Commandline stuff. These days Cyber Warfare is under the same framework The Defense uses, called C4ISR. This also applies to Penetration Testers like me, especially when we are doing Black Box Penetration testing. Lemmie give you an example. Earlier this year we were doing a Penetration testing in a big firm in Southern Africa. They had their own VPN between countries and one point of Entry to the Internet (They Believed so). So i became a Janitor for one week and then i went ahead and found out the IT supporting company, and i went on to the HQ offices pretending to be staff of the IT Company, with business cards and other IDs. From there getting into KAV and getting a connect-back Binary as an AV agent to the whole company was just easy. All machines connected with a system shell to my CNC.
So, i think with Cyber Warfare, the same applies everywhere, and what we should do is be afraid of those Nations that we don't know, what they are doing the same.
So what is Cyberwarfare
a) Cyber Espionage b) Cyber Terrorism - Cyber-jihad c) Cyber Hacktivism d) Cyber Sabotage e) Information Warfare etc etc.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Chuks,
Very interesting development...instead of attracting chinese tourists, we seem to be attracting chinese hackers :-)
But on a serious note, i still dont understand WHY they needed to be resident in Kenya in order to execute thier cybercrime when they can do safely from their homes in China.
Or maybe they were sniffing the local airwaves in rich neighbourhoods of Runda for wi-fi passwords - but you dont need a whole battaliion and server room to do that. Very fishy indeed.
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 12/4/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014, 11:11 AM
Lemmie patch up this discussion to the other main mail list, for awareness.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: BRIGHT GAMELI via Security <security@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 16:26:26 +0900 Subject: Re: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese To: fredrick Wahome <frewah85@gmail.com>, "Security Forum All information security discussions in Africa are done here (Hacking, Decryptions, Security management, physical security, Disastor Recovery, Security Assessments etc etc)" <security@lists.my.co.ke>
Lets take a look at the strategic positions where these guys are located. Well even not much information has been release, a good yagi antenna can go really far as an example.
I also think the story will just die down and we will never hear about it again.
The government however will need to speed up forensics of these servers and all to know what kind of activities were being carried around. But again, I highly doubt we will get to know the details. Another good read here
http://www.kahawatungu.com/2014/09/06/chinese-hackers-embarassed-uhuru-usa/
Lets not turn a blind eye to all these before it is too late.
~ze3D~
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:54 PM, fredrick Wahome via Security < security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The reason why the government will not allow media into the rooms to capture the real setups....This will be just forgotten as Kanyaris issue. It must be a big operational group with safe havens spread across the country. How I wish the digital government would invest in cyber intelligence. But for now this will remain just a wish...
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:45 AM, John Doe. <agikabia@gmail.com> wrote:
As someone commented earlier,most guys on this list have equipments running in their homes as well. The information being provided is really not clear on what they were doing. Most likely as fredrick has said and i tend to agree,this guys were actually up to no good. The question that begs is this. Since our government turned to the East for Financial Support.loans etc...do you really think China will allow these guys to be placed behind bars in kenya? Most likely this story will go quiet and not be remembered. I just tend to imagine how many other places may be in operation in kenya and even being run by other nationalities.
Regards Antony
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:33 AM, fredrick Wahome via Security < security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
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220.191.230.250Netname: JINHUA-GOVERNMENT-NETWORK - Desc: Jinhua Electronic Government Network info.jinhua.gov.cn Kind Regards, Kennedy KK Mobile: +254721699119 / +254725292261 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 3:40 PM, njuki inbox via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hey Chuks, been reading your blog, does these two posts relate with whats going on at Runda?
http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/2014/10/china-elfs.html
http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/2014/11/new-wave-of-attacks-this-post-is.html
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Chinese Cyber Army is always known to go for Telecommunications and Government networks, and due to that we know the main CIA station in Africa is in Nairobi US Embassy and then take the understanding of C4ISR thats used by all Cyber Armies, we all now where this is going, lemmie stop there :D
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STATEMENT FROM CHINESE EMBASSY IN NAIROBI... AFTER MISTAKENLY SENDING OUT A REPORT BY CHINA DAILY....
***** *CORRECTION - THIS IS THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM CHINESE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESPERSON HUA CHUNYING - THE PREVIOUS INFORMATION IS THE REPORTING BY CHINA DAILY AND THEREFORE ANYONE WISHING TO USE IT SHOULD QUOTE CHINA DAILY.*
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying's Regular Press Conference on December 5, 2014 2014/12/05
*Q: The Kenyan police arrested 77 Chinese people suspected of financial fraud. Please give us more details on this case and what efforts has China made.*
A: We have noted this report. Investigation is still underway and initial assessment shows that this is likely to be a telecommunication fraud case. China and Kenya enjoy long-standing friendship, and the Chinese side resolutely supports the Kenyan side in combating all forms of illegal and criminal activities. We will actively cooperate with the Kenyan side to carry out investigation and handle the case in accordance with law. Meanwhile, we also hope that the Kenyan side can safeguard the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese citizens being involved and properly deal with this case in a law-abiding and just way.
*****
ALLEGED CHINA DAILY REPORT SENT OUT BY CHINESE EMBASSY ALLEGEDLY BY MISTAKE:
(sic) See attached, Statement by the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mrs Hua Chunying on the 77 arrested communications fraudsters in Nairobi.
*The Chinese Embassy in Kenya will also release an official statement in the course of the day.*
Arrested 77 suspects in Nairobi may be involved in a telecommunication fraud and China will cooperate with relative parties to break the case, according to the Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Hua Chunying.
Hua said China and Kenya enjoy a long-term friendship and China strongly supports Kenya's efforts on fighting against all kinds of crimes. China will also collaborate with Kenya to conduct relative investigation and bring criminals to justice, she said in a regular press conference in Beijing on Friday.
"We also hope Kenyan authorities could ensure Chinese citizens' lawful rights, and process this case in a justice and lawful manner," she added.
Earlier this week Kenya police found a large number of unregistered communication equipments in a villa near the office of United Nations Environment Programme in its capital city Nairobi, when they were investigating over a fire that killed one Chinese.
When spotted the equipments and many other suspicious tools in the house, the police then arrested 77 suspects.
Sources said one of the suspects is a Thailand passport holder and the rest are from the Chinese mainland and Taiwan.
Tele fraud gang's dens previously were found in various regions and southeastern Asian countries including Indonesia, Philippine, Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Malaysia and Singapore. This case may further signal a relocation of this kind of crime ring to Africa.
The number of telecommunication fraud cases in China has exceeded 300,000 in 2013, resulting in a loss of more than 10 billion yuan ($1.63 billion), according to Chinese National Congress deputy Chen Weicai.
This kind of crimes mostly targeted at Chinese citizens by calling them to transfer certain amount of money to designated accounts based on fabricated reasons and the callers were normally in the name of a public authority, including police, court, or banks. As the callers' number appeared on the cell phone was changed to the official number of respective authority by special technologies, so victims followed their instructions although with suspicions.
In October, Egypt police unearthed a fraud ring and arrested 96 Chinese suspects accused of telecommunication fraud. The police said 56 of them are from the Chinese mainland and the other 40 are from China's Taiwan province.
In May, police from Fujian province uncovered two fraud gangs. In one case, a woman surnamed Shi from Shishi city was defrauded over six million yuan. The woman was called continually since March 30 by people claiming themselves as officials from post office, public security bureau and procuratorate. They told Shi that she was suspected to be involved in money launder and needed to transfer her money to safe accounts.
The police arrested 35 suspects and found the two gangs were based in Indonesia and Kenya. They carried out the fraud and then drew the money in Taiwan.
***** ENDS
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Cyberwarfare has changed, a lot over the year. Its not only sitting at the computer scanning networks and other Commandline stuff. These days Cyber Warfare is under the same framework The Defense uses, called C4ISR. This also applies to Penetration Testers like me, especially when we are doing Black Box Penetration testing. Lemmie give you an example. Earlier this year we were doing a Penetration testing in a big firm in Southern Africa. They had their own VPN between countries and one point of Entry to the Internet (They Believed so). So i became a Janitor for one week and then i went ahead and found out the IT supporting company, and i went on to the HQ offices pretending to be staff of the IT Company, with business cards and other IDs. From there getting into KAV and getting a connect-back Binary as an AV agent to the whole company was just easy. All machines connected with a system shell to my CNC.
So, i think with Cyber Warfare, the same applies everywhere, and what we should do is be afraid of those Nations that we don't know, what they are doing the same.
So what is Cyberwarfare
a) Cyber Espionage b) Cyber Terrorism - Cyber-jihad c) Cyber Hacktivism d) Cyber Sabotage e) Information Warfare etc etc.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Chuks,
Very interesting development...instead of attracting chinese tourists, we seem to be attracting chinese hackers :-)
But on a serious note, i still dont understand WHY they needed to be resident in Kenya in order to execute thier cybercrime when they can do safely from their homes in China.
Or maybe they were sniffing the local airwaves in rich neighbourhoods of Runda for wi-fi passwords - but you dont need a whole battaliion and server room to do that. Very fishy indeed.
walu.
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Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese To: jwalu@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014, 11:11 AM
Lemmie patch up this discussion to the other main mail list, for awareness.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: BRIGHT GAMELI via Security <security@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 16:26:26 +0900 Subject: Re: [Security Forum] Fwd: Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese To: fredrick Wahome <frewah85@gmail.com>, "Security Forum All information security discussions in Africa are done here (Hacking, Decryptions, Security management, physical security, Disastor Recovery, Security Assessments etc etc)" <security@lists.my.co.ke>
Lets take a look at the strategic positions where these guys are located. Well even not much information has been release, a good yagi antenna can go really far as an example.
I also think the story will just die down and we will never hear about it again.
The government however will need to speed up forensics of these servers and all to know what kind of activities were being carried around. But again, I highly doubt we will get to know the details. Another good read here
http://www.kahawatungu.com/2014/09/06/chinese-hackers-embarassed-uhuru-usa/
Lets not turn a blind eye to all these before it is too late.
~ze3D~
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:54 PM, fredrick Wahome via Security < security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
The reason why the government will not allow media into the rooms to capture the real setups....This will be just forgotten as Kanyaris issue. It must be a big operational group with safe havens spread across the country. How I wish the digital government would invest in cyber intelligence. But for now this will remain just a wish...
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:45 AM, John Doe. <agikabia@gmail.com> wrote:
> As someone commented earlier,most guys on this list have equipments > running in their homes as well. > The information being provided is really not clear on what they were > doing. > Most likely as fredrick has said and i tend to agree,this guys were > actually up to no good. > The question that begs is this. > Since our government turned to the East for Financial Support.loans > etc...do you really think China will allow these guys to be placed behind > bars in kenya? > Most likely this story will go quiet and not be remembered. > I just tend to imagine how many other places may be in operation in > kenya and even being run by other nationalities. > > Regards > Antony > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:33 AM, fredrick Wahome via Security < > security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> I have every reason to believe this is a cyber espionage by these >> Chinese guys. Peeped into some conversation on IRC with some blackhats in >> 2012 and they mentioned something like Chinese CyberSpy ring operating in >> Nairobi. However they are spying all over Africa with Runda being one of >> their safe house. But as obvious if you try to alert the government the >> Ruaraka boys will actually start investigating you >> >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Adam Nelson via Security < >> security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> The reporting and statements by GoK are still too vague to understand >>> what actually happened. Half the people on this list have network >>> equipment and servers in their house. And if you were running a serious >>> cybercrime syndicate in a house, you don't need dozens of people to do it. >>> >>> -- >>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io >>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> >>> More Musings: varud.com >>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Mark Kipyegon via Security < >>> security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> A more recent news report now claims the group is being charged in >>>> court with illegally operating a radio station. The same report then links >>>> this "cyber-crime command centre" to hacking facebook accounts, mpesa >>>> fraud, card theft and bizarrely, "Police said the Chinese were preparing to >>>> raid the country's communication systems". >>>> >>>> Would anyone have more usable information on this? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark. >>>> >>>> On 2 Dec 2014, at 14:20, "Almerindo Graziano via Security" < >>>> security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>> the entire country is welcoming supplies and services from China >>>> across the ENTIRE critical infrastructure..That worries me more in terms of >>>> cyber warfare. No need of backdoor when you are let in through the front >>>> door :-) >>>> >>>> Hence I seriously doubt the news is related to cyber warfare >>>> Al >>>> >>>> On 02/12/2014 14:07, Adam Nelson via Security wrote: >>>> >>>> And it might just be that these guys are working on an oilfield in >>>> Turkana and have VHF radios and Runda is their HQ and they simply didn't >>>> have the correct visas. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io >>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> >>>> More Musings: varud.com >>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Robin Wood via Security < >>>> security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2 December 2014 at 10:28, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via Security >>>>> <security@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> > Cyber Warfare is real >>>>> >>>>> I would agree that Cyber Warefare is real but would say that this is >>>>> possibly more like normal criminality than warfare. >>>>> >>>>> Robin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message
>>>>> > From: BRIGHT GAMELI via Security <security@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>> > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 17:57:00 +0900 >>>>> > Subject: [Security Forum] Cyber Warfare on Kenya or Random Chinese >>>>> > To: "Security Forum All information security discussions in Africa >>>>> are >>>>> > done here (Hacking, Decryptions, Security management, physical >>>>> > security, Disastor Recovery, Security Assessments etc etc)" >>>>> > <security@lists.my.co.ke> >>>>> > >>>>> > Should we start to say Cyber Warfare is real on Kenya or just brush >>>>> this >>>>> > off as another random happenings in Runda. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>
http://www.trending.co.ke/police-arrest-36-chinese-natio-852390307.html
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