
This maybe a liitle OT, but I certainly hope not. After watching the TED speech posted by D Kiania Early this week. I have spent the whole week inspired. For those who might not have had time to read or watch the speech it was about innovation. Evans Wadongo<http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/archive10/evans.wadongo.html>has been nominated for a CNN Hero of 2010 award. He has been nominated for inventing or should I say innovating "a way for rural families in Kenya to replace smoky kerosene and firelight with solar powered lanterns." I don't know the guy personally nor have been directly affected by his work but IMHO its a noble idea put to work. I have already cast my vote. Have a pleasant weekend. Kind regards, -- Lusiola Brian |3 R 1 /-\ |\|

I have actually voted for the guy, I read his story, truly a noble cause On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
This maybe a liitle OT, but I certainly hope not. After watching the TED speech posted by D Kiania Early this week. I have spent the whole week inspired. For those who might not have had time to read or watch the speech it was about innovation.
Evans Wadongo<http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/archive10/evans.wadongo.html>has been nominated for a CNN Hero of 2010 award.
He has been nominated for inventing or should I say innovating "a way for rural families in Kenya to replace smoky kerosene and firelight with solar powered lanterns." I don't know the guy personally nor have been directly affected by his work but IMHO its a noble idea put to work. I have already cast my vote. Have a pleasant weekend.
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@ Kiania Yaani you dint tell us that you were doing a TED talk [?] !!! Anyway - as for the solar lantern, I hope it includes battery; cos once the sun goes out... == It is a good invention; and of late, there has been a lot of focus and urgency on green energy (CNN and currently this month in our churches) and doing things in a green way; And it is good to see people making such inventions. I even have a "green phone" from sony ericsson - says its completely recyclable [?]. I saw a simulation of the polar ice caps 20 years ago, and a 20 year projection in the future.. it seems that we may not have the northpole by the time we are achieving vision 2020, and the amount of fresh water pouring into the ocean may have adverse climatic effects and extreme weather situations such as the ones going on in Asia right now. Kudos to Evans.

@ Brian, what's the link for the TED talk? A search gives me zero results. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:26, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Kiania
Yaani you dint tell us that you were doing a TED talk [?] !!!
Anyway - as for the solar lantern, I hope it includes battery; cos once the sun goes out...
==
It is a good invention; and of late, there has been a lot of focus and urgency on green energy (CNN and currently this month in our churches) and doing things in a green way; And it is good to see people making such inventions.
I even have a "green phone" from sony ericsson - says its completely recyclable [?].
I saw a simulation of the polar ice caps 20 years ago, and a 20 year projection in the future.. it seems that we may not have the northpole by the time we are achieving vision 2020, and the amount of fresh water pouring into the ocean may have adverse climatic effects and extreme weather situations such as the ones going on in Asia right now.
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Ndungu, Before Kiania blows a fuse [?] and kills me, my English may have been erroneous. What I meant to Say is Kiania posted a TED speech by Chris Anderson<http://www.ted.com/talks/chris_anderson_how_web_video_powers_global_innovation.html> . Sorry Kiania for any inconvenience. On 24 September 2010 12:26, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Kiania
Yaani you dint tell us that you were doing a TED talk [?] !!!
Anyway - as for the solar lantern, I hope it includes battery; cos once the sun goes out...
==
It is a good invention; and of late, there has been a lot of focus and urgency on green energy (CNN and currently this month in our churches) and doing things in a green way; And it is good to see people making such inventions.
I even have a "green phone" from sony ericsson - says its completely recyclable [?].
I saw a simulation of the polar ice caps 20 years ago, and a 20 year projection in the future.. it seems that we may not have the northpole by the time we are achieving vision 2020, and the amount of fresh water pouring into the ocean may have adverse climatic effects and extreme weather situations such as the ones going on in Asia right now.
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No need for apologies, It is my intention to give a TED Talk one of these days promise I will wakilisha in ... I have some idea of how to fit a helicopter with an ejector seat. Keep watching this space ;-) Kiania D. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Ndungu, Before Kiania blows a fuse [?] and kills me, my English may have been erroneous. What I meant to Say is Kiania posted a TED speech by Chris Anderson<http://www.ted.com/talks/chris_anderson_how_web_video_powers_global_innovation.html> . Sorry Kiania for any inconvenience.
On 24 September 2010 12:26, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Kiania
Yaani you dint tell us that you were doing a TED talk [?] !!!
Anyway - as for the solar lantern, I hope it includes battery; cos once the sun goes out...
==
It is a good invention; and of late, there has been a lot of focus and urgency on green energy (CNN and currently this month in our churches) and doing things in a green way; And it is good to see people making such inventions.
I even have a "green phone" from sony ericsson - says its completely recyclable [?].
I saw a simulation of the polar ice caps 20 years ago, and a 20 year projection in the future.. it seems that we may not have the northpole by the time we are achieving vision 2020, and the amount of fresh water pouring into the ocean may have adverse climatic effects and extreme weather situations such as the ones going on in Asia right now.
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Or maybe a waterproof Tea bag :-) On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:34 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
No need for apologies, It is my intention to give a TED Talk one of these days promise I will wakilisha in ... I have some idea of how to fit a helicopter with an ejector seat. Keep watching this space ;-)
Kiania D.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Ndungu, Before Kiania blows a fuse [?] and kills me, my English may have been erroneous. What I meant to Say is Kiania posted a TED speech by Chris Anderson<http://www.ted.com/talks/chris_anderson_how_web_video_powers_global_innovation.html> . Sorry Kiania for any inconvenience.
On 24 September 2010 12:26, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Kiania
Yaani you dint tell us that you were doing a TED talk [?] !!!
Anyway - as for the solar lantern, I hope it includes battery; cos once the sun goes out...
==
It is a good invention; and of late, there has been a lot of focus and urgency on green energy (CNN and currently this month in our churches) and doing things in a green way; And it is good to see people making such inventions.
I even have a "green phone" from sony ericsson - says its completely recyclable [?].
I saw a simulation of the polar ice caps 20 years ago, and a 20 year projection in the future.. it seems that we may not have the northpole by the time we are achieving vision 2020, and the amount of fresh water pouring into the ocean may have adverse climatic effects and extreme weather situations such as the ones going on in Asia right now.
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Ok please lets keep voting for him. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Aladin Khedira <alakihs@gmail.com> wrote:
Or maybe a waterproof Tea bag :-)
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:34 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd < kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
No need for apologies, It is my intention to give a TED Talk one of these days promise I will wakilisha in ... I have some idea of how to fit a helicopter with an ejector seat. Keep watching this space ;-)
Kiania D.
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
Ndungu, Before Kiania blows a fuse [?] and kills me, my English may have been erroneous. What I meant to Say is Kiania posted a TED speech by Chris Anderson<http://www.ted.com/talks/chris_anderson_how_web_video_powers_global_innovation.html> . Sorry Kiania for any inconvenience.
On 24 September 2010 12:26, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Kiania
Yaani you dint tell us that you were doing a TED talk [?] !!!
Anyway - as for the solar lantern, I hope it includes battery; cos once the sun goes out...
==
It is a good invention; and of late, there has been a lot of focus and urgency on green energy (CNN and currently this month in our churches) and doing things in a green way; And it is good to see people making such inventions.
I even have a "green phone" from sony ericsson - says its completely recyclable [?].
I saw a simulation of the polar ice caps 20 years ago, and a 20 year projection in the future.. it seems that we may not have the northpole by the time we are achieving vision 2020, and the amount of fresh water pouring into the ocean may have adverse climatic effects and extreme weather situations such as the ones going on in Asia right now.
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@ndungu - why would you need a lamp when the is up? :) Brian On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:26 AM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Kiania
Yaani you dint tell us that you were doing a TED talk [?] !!!
Anyway - as for the solar lantern, I hope it includes battery; cos once the sun goes out...
==
It is a good invention; and of late, there has been a lot of focus and urgency on green energy (CNN and currently this month in our churches) and doing things in a green way; And it is good to see people making such inventions.
I even have a "green phone" from sony ericsson - says its completely recyclable [?].
I saw a simulation of the polar ice caps 20 years ago, and a 20 year projection in the future.. it seems that we may not have the northpole by the time we are achieving vision 2020, and the amount of fresh water pouring into the ocean may have adverse climatic effects and extreme weather situations such as the ones going on in Asia right now.
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This is an inspiring story. How I wish our political leaders had such visions. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Brian L <lusiola@gmail.com> wrote:
This maybe a liitle OT, but I certainly hope not. After watching the TED speech posted by D Kiania Early this week. I have spent the whole week inspired. For those who might not have had time to read or watch the speech it was about innovation.
Evans Wadongo<http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/archive10/evans.wadongo.html>has been nominated for a CNN Hero of 2010 award.
He has been nominated for inventing or should I say innovating "a way for rural families in Kenya to replace smoky kerosene and firelight with solar powered lanterns." I don't know the guy personally nor have been directly affected by his work but IMHO its a noble idea put to work. I have already cast my vote. Have a pleasant weekend.
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I have pigad kura at CNN site ! My pinkie finger shall remain black for the next 1 month until it fades !

You mean people still watch CNN...? I heard The Cartoon Network has more viewership:-) On 9/27/10, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
I have pigad kura at CNN site !
My pinkie finger shall remain black for the next 1 month until it fades !

Yeap, CNN , National Geographic and Discovery Channel On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:
You mean people still watch CNN...?
I heard The Cartoon Network has more viewership:-)
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I have pigad kura at CNN site !
My pinkie finger shall remain black for the next 1 month until it fades !
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Yeap, CNN , National Geographic and Discovery Channel
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You mean people still watch CNN...?
I heard The Cartoon Network has more viewership:-)
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I have pigad kura at CNN site !
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yeah, CNN is the number 1 watched channel by those held up in waiting rooms in offices and hospitals

Vote for the Kenyan JKUAT student. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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Are we voting for our CNN hero ? http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/archive10/evans.wadongo.html Unfortunately, by judicial deduction, awareness of a mailing list like this one is where Evans can receive many votes... Because unlike the popular "project fame" made aware thru friends who are fans, and it was a simple SMS.. This votes can only be done by computer/Internet users.. I don't know if awareness is raised on Twitter/Facebook - - However, I wud like a Kenyan to bag this one, cos he already got Nomination... But if there is an Indian or Chinese nominee :( don't think we can beat their numbers ):

nothing is impossible We have US president (black)son of Kenyan We have a mayor in Canada who is 100% Kenyan We reign on the track all the time Evans Adongo is the next in the list..chinese or no chinese lets vote On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:13, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Are we voting for our CNN hero ?
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/archive10/evans.wadongo.html
Unfortunately, by judicial deduction, awareness of a mailing list like this one is where Evans can receive many votes... Because unlike the popular "project fame" made aware thru friends who are fans, and it was a simple SMS..
This votes can only be done by computer/Internet users..
I don't know if awareness is raised on Twitter/Facebook - -
However, I wud like a Kenyan to bag this one, cos he already got Nomination... But if there is an Indian or Chinese nominee :( don't think we can beat their numbers ):_______________________________________________
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You left out Virtual City, 100% Kenyan. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Felakut <egmasp@yahoo.com> wrote:
nothing is impossible
We have US president (black)son of Kenyan We have a mayor in Canada who is 100% Kenyan We reign on the track all the time Evans Adongo is the next in the list..chinese or no chinese
lets vote
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:13, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Are we voting for our CNN hero ?
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/archive10/evans.wadongo.html
Unfortunately, by judicial deduction, awareness of a mailing list like this one is where Evans can receive many votes... Because unlike the popular "project fame" made aware thru friends who are fans, and it was a simple SMS..
This votes can only be done by computer/Internet users..
I don't know if awareness is raised on Twitter/Facebook - -
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u said it ..name it n we will reign On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:38, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
You left out Virtual City, 100% Kenyan.
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Felakut <egmasp@yahoo.com> wrote:
nothing is impossible
We have US president (black)son of Kenyan We have a mayor in Canada who is 100% Kenyan We reign on the track all the time Evans Adongo is the next in the list..chinese or no chinese
lets vote
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:13, Stephen Ndungu <ndungustephen@gmail.com>wrote:
Are we voting for our CNN hero ?
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cnn.heroes/archive10/evans.wadongo.html
Unfortunately, by judicial deduction, awareness of a mailing list like this one is where Evans can receive many votes... Because unlike the popular "project fame" made aware thru friends who are fans, and it was a simple SMS..
This votes can only be done by computer/Internet users..
I don't know if awareness is raised on Twitter/Facebook - -
However, I wud like a Kenyan to bag this one, cos he already got Nomination... But if there is an Indian or Chinese nominee :( don't think we can beat their numbers ):_______________________________________________
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Hello my good people, I am starting to wonder whether I am being swindled. I am connected to safcom internet which they hyped to be the best. Thing is, their speeds are so disappointing. I am having way better connections on safcom bundles which leads me to believe that the office internet connections are being routed to satellite gateways coz they are soooooo slow:-(. Especially when I ping to international hosted websites. Right now I am on bamba net in the office coz the lan connection is unbearable. Si hii ni kurudishwa nyuma in this fiberlink age? Again, I cant help but wonder whether I am being swindled "SAFCON Style". What do you think? Is it a common problem?

What capacity have you subscribed for? And you last-mile, is it fiber or WiMax?

Philip, Our capacity is 256 both up and down and the building has a fiber station where we source from. At times the speeds are generous say two to four days a month(like someone forgot to check the traffic), and we get up to 600-800kbps(oh happy days). Then, back to the bad days of 9-18-28kbps max.
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I suspect you link may be contented (shared) to some ratio; usually 1:8 or 1:10 or 1:20. Depending on the usage of the other users (contentees) on the link, speeds can tend to jump up and down from time to time. If it is not a contented link, then you need to have a chat with Safaricom. I have used their service on Fixed data and they are quite good.

Thanks for the insight, Were you using the same bandwidth packages ie 256kbps on the fixed data or were you on a higher package? And then again why is it that the local loops eg. local pings return far much better response,78-80ms -+ than the pings to like yahoo or google which are 3000-4000ms +.
I suspect you link may be contented (shared) to some ratio; usually 1:8 or 1:10 or 1:20. Depending on the usage of the other users (contentees) on the link, speeds can tend to jump up and down from time to time. If it is not a contented link, then you need to have a chat with Safaricom.
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I am not on 256 kbps, I have a much higher capacity. Local loop pings tend to be short coz the servers are very near. Pings to international sites take longer, around 250 to 300 ms of fiber, but not 3000ms, which is too high even for the slowest of satellite link. All this depends on the speed of light, light going to North America takes longer than light to Nairobi or Mombasa, hence the difference in ping stats for local and international loops. But anyway light is very fast but not fast enough for data.

philip's ryt... u should be getting 200-300ms latencies. call their customer support... check your hardware though... u router may be ish, and maybe someone has been doing some major downloading on ur link, gobbling up most of your available throughputs... in which case you would get huge latencies and frequent timeouts [though, come to think of it, bandwidth hogging would have also affected local pinging] may be safcom just set up their bandwidth-manager incorrectly. whichever the case, contact their customer support... and try to be polite and patient with them... u dont want beef with that customer-rep who's trying to help u On 10/4/10, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not on 256 kbps, I have a much higher capacity. Local loop pings tend to be short coz the servers are very near. Pings to international sites take longer, around 250 to 300 ms of fiber, but not 3000ms, which is too high even for the slowest of satellite link. All this depends on the speed of light, light going to North America takes longer than light to Nairobi or Mombasa, hence the difference in ping stats for local and international loops. But anyway light is very fast but not fast enough for data.

Thats the spirit; Lets keep voting !

He shall overcome,that Bush guys left things in shatter now the Obama Guy is working to resolve everyday....u should see vile amezeeka na stress ya whitehouse....damn!!!! On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 21:42, Claire Njoki <clairenjoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortunately Obama is not doing so well...seems like a one-term dude...
On 10/4/10, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
Thats the spirit; Lets keep voting !
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Even Bush checked in with black hair; But when he was leaving, he was looking like freakin Moses !
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