<boredom> Now as I was crawling in traffic, with that bad road leading from Nakumatt Ukay towards the Westlands roundabout, something crossed my mind. In 1969 was the Apollo 11 Launch. Questions: 1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama? </kill boredom> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
See inline On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
<boredom>
Now as I was crawling in traffic, with that bad road leading from Nakumatt Ukay towards the Westlands roundabout, something crossed my mind. In 1969 was the Apollo 11 Launch. Questions:
1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? -> http://temasekpoly.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/the-1969-nasa-computer-that-brou... 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_missions 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> -> ????????? 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama? -> Even in 7070 I would not trust Kenyan tech to take me to the moon.
</kill boredom>
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My layman's* 'ungoogled' *& * 'unplagiarized'* view; believe it at your own risk. (Poetic license allows me to air my expert views) 1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? *[TL] What you don't know does not kill you. They thought the then hardware/software was 'Tosha'. Remember every kid thinks that their dad is/was the strongest being alive - no room for questions. On the other hand, ever heard of the remarks made when Microsoft cobbled up that massive 512Kb of storage?* 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? *[TL] It's more macho! Makes you appear 'harsh' in your game. I'ts sheer brilliance to unleash some funky-named toy, say Taepodong(n+1), where n is non zero & non negative number I would be wowed by how far you've advanced!!, Never mind that I've never heard of Tae-podong, let alone Tae-podong(n) (That makes Windows 8 sooo last 2 Mayan calenders; given that I'm running Windows 98)* 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> *[TL] Young republic this one! We just got the name Kenya recently. Recall those good old days when we were a united people under Tutan Khamun? The Antikythera had been around for a while.* 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama? *[TL] No need to try and catch up with the Joneses. We're still figuring out more fun things to do.* Tony.
1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? *The Apollo effort's number crunching power was realized by an arsenal of those, majority of which were located on earth across many nations, embedded in giant vessels at sea, and the most popular being the AGC (apollo guidance computer) coasting in space being powered by early ICs which contained at most 2 LOGIC GATES!* *Most of the computing was done on earth tho. * *The confidence came from national pride and faith in the industrial giant that is the U.S.A* *(And also the fear of the Soviets upstaging them)* 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? *The Apollo naming scheme idea was suggested by the widows of 3 astronauts (who burnt to death because of careless design decisions). * *Before that they were designated like AS-20X* *Apollo 11 happened to be the shot that featured technology & concepts mature enough to rely on for a landing on an unexplored alien world.* *All previous shots leading up to 11 were basically development efforts, concept tests/proofs and upgrades geared towards producing a "stable reliable product".* *Apollo 1 was a ground simulation fail......the first manned mission..then called AS-201. * 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> *Immediately it was born!* *Some of her bran new citizens/organizations had already acquired these contraptions before independence.(Majority of them were white)* 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama? * 1 - Finding/terraforming another home is more important than landing a man on that beautiful grey desert...especially by the year 7070!* * 2 - All future manned missions to alien worlds should be noble multinational efforts. National boundaries should be forgotten here on earth...these world are there for all of us!* _______________________________________________ *In programming, as in everything else, to be in error is to be reborn.** * _______________________________________________
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Slightly off topic... The only computer I know is the famous HAL 2000 (a fictional computer) *"HAL 9000* is a fictional character<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_character>in Arthur C. Clarke <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke>'s *Space Odyssey<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Odyssey> * series. The primary antagonist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antagonist>of *2001: A Space Odyssey<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_%28film%29> *, HAL (*H*euristically <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic_algorithm>programmed *AL*gorithmic computer) is an artificial intelligence<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence>that controls the systems of the *Discovery One <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_One>* spacecraft and interacts with the ship's astronaut <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronaut>crew." HAL 9000 refuses to cooperate - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MMmYyIZlC4 Deactivation of HAL 9000 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8N72t7aScY On 9 January 2013 00:46, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
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Then after all that you can go and watch Capricorn One, the movie. What if they simulated the moon landing? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:29 AM, TheBigBoss <thebigboss@peperuka.com> wrote:
Slightly off topic... The only computer I know is the famous HAL 2000 (a fictional computer)
*"HAL 9000* is a fictional character<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_character>in Arthur C. Clarke <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke>'s *Space Odyssey<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Odyssey> * series. The primary antagonist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antagonist>of *2001: A Space Odyssey<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey_%28film%29> *, HAL (*H*euristically <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic_algorithm>programmed *AL*gorithmic computer) is an artificial intelligence<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence>that controls the systems of the *Discovery One <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_One>* spacecraft and interacts with the ship's astronaut<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronaut>crew."
HAL 9000 refuses to cooperate - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MMmYyIZlC4 Deactivation of HAL 9000 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8N72t7aScY
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Wash, I willl speak to you number 4 - since many seem to be avoiding it. To land on the moon - or even simply carry out space flight is a feat of engineering - simply put, we don't have the engineering capacity in Kenya. In addition to that we are not innovating in that direction... Mblayo On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
<boredom>
Now as I was crawling in traffic, with that bad road leading from Nakumatt Ukay towards the Westlands roundabout, something crossed my mind. In 1969 was the Apollo 11 Launch. Questions:
1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama?
</kill boredom>
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I beg to differ......... Check out below http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broglio_Space_Centre On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash,
I willl speak to you number 4 - since many seem to be avoiding it.
To land on the moon - or even simply carry out space flight is a feat of engineering - simply put, we don't have the engineering capacity in Kenya. In addition to that we are not innovating in that direction...
Mblayo
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
<boredom>
Now as I was crawling in traffic, with that bad road leading from Nakumatt Ukay towards the Westlands roundabout, something crossed my mind. In 1969 was the Apollo 11 Launch. Questions:
1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama?
</kill boredom>
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
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@Tusker, I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it. And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there.
@Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating stuff with Kenya with stuff. Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share holder That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. Thika Rd - Chinese :-) Police Imposter ???? Its sad On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Tusker,
I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it.
And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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not to forget Queen Bee's Kenyan Money Transfer Invention. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating stuff with Kenya with stuff.
Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share holder That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. Thika Rd - Chinese :-) Police Imposter ????
Its sad
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
@Tusker,
I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it.
And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Apollo 11 was because, and this is speculation, since it was during the cold war and America and Russia were competing on who will be the first to take a man to the moon, Apollo `11` was a bluff to scare the Russians into thinking that they were well advanced into testing and preparation for the landing. Much like Seal Team 6 the 6 was to confuse Soviet Russia into believing there were more than 6 Seal teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six#History But its all speculation. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
not to forget Queen Bee's Kenyan Money Transfer Invention.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating stuff with Kenya with stuff.
Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share holder That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. Thika Rd - Chinese :-) Police Imposter ????
Its sad
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
@Tusker,
I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it.
And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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On more Apollo note, enjoy the following dox 1. In the shadow of the moon - http://goo.gl/8ZniC 2. Moon walk 1 - http://archive.org/details/gov.archives.arc.1257628 OR watch online at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70bFsUdepyA Dox on each manned mission (sans Apollo 1) 1. Apollo 07 : Flight of Apollo 7 The<http://archive.org/details/flight_of_apollo_7> 2. Apollo* 08 : Go for TLI* <http://archive.org/details/Apollo8GoForTli> 3. Apollo 0*9 : Three to make ready.*<http://archive.org/details/apollo9_three_to_make_ready> 4. Apollo* 10 : To Sort Out The Unknowns*<http://archive.org/details/apollo_10_to_sort_out_the_unknowns> 5. Apollo 11 : The Eagle Has Landed<http://archive.org/details/Apollo11TheEagleHasLanded> 6. Apollo 12 : Pinpoint For Science<http://archive.org/details/Jsc-536_apollo12PinpointForScience.wmv> 7. Apollo 13 : "Houston, We've Got A Problem<http://archive.org/details/apollo13_houston_weve_got_a_problem> " 8. *Apollo 14 :** *Mission* *to* *Fra* *Mauro<http://archive.org/details/apollo_14_mission_to_fra_mauro> 9. Apollo15 : In the Mountains of the Moon<http://archive.org/details/Jsc-572Apollo15-InTheMountainsOfTheMoon> 10. Apollo 16 : Nothing So Hidden<http://archive.org/details/Apollo16NothingSoHidden> 11. Apollo* *17* : *On* *The* *Shoulders* *of* *Giants<http://archive.org/details/Apollo17-OnTheShouldersOfGiants> Ant this is how they planned their return....its not easy! 1. Apollo Atmospheric Entry Phase<http://archive.org/details/apollo_atmospheric_entry_phase> Short trivia...., can you spot the UI to the Apollo Guidance Computer in the image bellow? _______________________________________________ *In programming, as in everything else, to be in error is to be reborn.** * _______________________________________________ * * 2013/1/10 kipropest <kipropbrian@gmail.com>
Apollo 11 was because, and this is speculation, since it was during the cold war and America and Russia were competing on who will be the first to take a man to the moon, Apollo `11` was a bluff to scare the Russians into thinking that they were well advanced into testing and preparation for the landing.
Much like Seal Team 6 the 6 was to confuse Soviet Russia into believing there were more than 6 Seal teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six#History
But its all speculation.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
not to forget Queen Bee's Kenyan Money Transfer Invention.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating stuff with Kenya with stuff.
Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share holder That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. Thika Rd - Chinese :-) Police Imposter ????
Its sad
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
@Tusker,
I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it.
And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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Not many people know this but one of the Apollos actually got lost in space. The search is still on going. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, kipropest <kipropbrian@gmail.com> wrote:
Apollo 11 was because, and this is speculation, since it was during the cold war and America and Russia were competing on who will be the first to take a man to the moon, Apollo `11` was a bluff to scare the Russians into thinking that they were well advanced into testing and preparation for the landing.
Much like Seal Team 6 the 6 was to confuse Soviet Russia into believing there were more than 6 Seal teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six#History
But its all speculation.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
not to forget Queen Bee's Kenyan Money Transfer Invention.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating stuff with Kenya with stuff.
Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share holder That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. Thika Rd - Chinese :-) Police Imposter ????
Its sad
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
@Tusker,
I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it.
And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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With humans inside? WTF are they still searching for? If it was one before 11, then the humans are for sure gone, or maybe were adopted by Aliens! On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Not many people know this but one of the Apollos actually got lost in space. The search is still on going.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, kipropest <kipropbrian@gmail.com> wrote:
Apollo 11 was because, and this is speculation, since it was during the cold war and America and Russia were competing on who will be the first to take a man to the moon, Apollo `11` was a bluff to scare the Russians into thinking that they were well advanced into testing and preparation for the landing.
Much like Seal Team 6 the 6 was to confuse Soviet Russia into believing there were more than 6 Seal teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six#History
But its all speculation.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
not to forget Queen Bee's Kenyan Money Transfer Invention.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating stuff with Kenya with stuff.
Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share holder That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. Thika Rd - Chinese :-) Police Imposter ????
Its sad
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
@Tusker,
I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it.
And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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For space fan; check this website which was created for the 50s anniversary. http://wechoosethemoon.org/ Fly to the moon (full screen) just like if you were inside Apollo 11. One of the best stuff ever made online; I watched it more than ten times with my kids, very instructive and catchy. Bookmark it !! http://wechoosethemoon.org/ On 10 January 2013 15:07, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
With humans inside?
WTF are they still searching for? If it was one before 11, then the humans are for sure gone, or maybe were adopted by Aliens!
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Not many people know this but one of the Apollos actually got lost in space. The search is still on going.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, kipropest <kipropbrian@gmail.com>wrote:
Apollo 11 was because, and this is speculation, since it was during the cold war and America and Russia were competing on who will be the first to take a man to the moon, Apollo `11` was a bluff to scare the Russians into thinking that they were well advanced into testing and preparation for the landing.
Much like Seal Team 6 the 6 was to confuse Soviet Russia into believing there were more than 6 Seal teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six#History
But its all speculation.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
not to forget Queen Bee's Kenyan Money Transfer Invention.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
@Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating stuff with Kenya with stuff.
Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share holder That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. Thika Rd - Chinese :-) Police Imposter ????
Its sad
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
@Tusker,
I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it.
And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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@BigBoss Thanks for this link. My daughter loves it and I do too. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, TheBigBoss <thebigboss@peperuka.com> wrote:
For space fan; check this website which was created for the 50s anniversary.
Fly to the moon (full screen) just like if you were inside Apollo 11. One of the best stuff ever made online; I watched it more than ten times with my kids, very instructive and catchy. Bookmark it !!
On 10 January 2013 15:07, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
With humans inside?
WTF are they still searching for? If it was one before 11, then the humans are for sure gone, or maybe were adopted by Aliens!
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Not many people know this but one of the Apollos actually got lost in space. The search is still on going.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, kipropest <kipropbrian@gmail.com>wrote:
Apollo 11 was because, and this is speculation, since it was during the cold war and America and Russia were competing on who will be the first to take a man to the moon, Apollo `11` was a bluff to scare the Russians into thinking that they were well advanced into testing and preparation for the landing.
Much like Seal Team 6 the 6 was to confuse Soviet Russia into believing there were more than 6 Seal teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six#History
But its all speculation.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
not to forget Queen Bee's Kenyan Money Transfer Invention.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com>wrote:
@Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating stuff with Kenya with stuff.
Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share holder That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. Thika Rd - Chinese :-) Police Imposter ????
Its sad
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
> @Tusker, > > I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre > is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and > Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it. > > And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is usually > cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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@Brian - I hope you had a nice landing :) On 11 January 2013 01:35, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
@BigBoss Thanks for this link. My daughter loves it and I do too.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM, TheBigBoss <thebigboss@peperuka.com>wrote:
For space fan; check this website which was created for the 50s anniversary.
Fly to the moon (full screen) just like if you were inside Apollo 11. One of the best stuff ever made online; I watched it more than ten times with my kids, very instructive and catchy. Bookmark it !!
On 10 January 2013 15:07, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
With humans inside?
WTF are they still searching for? If it was one before 11, then the humans are for sure gone, or maybe were adopted by Aliens!
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Bwana Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:
Not many people know this but one of the Apollos actually got lost in space. The search is still on going.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, kipropest <kipropbrian@gmail.com>wrote:
Apollo 11 was because, and this is speculation, since it was during the cold war and America and Russia were competing on who will be the first to take a man to the moon, Apollo `11` was a bluff to scare the Russians into thinking that they were well advanced into testing and preparation for the landing.
Much like Seal Team 6 the 6 was to confuse Soviet Russia into believing there were more than 6 Seal teams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six#History
But its all speculation.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Areba Collins [ @BrainiacKE ® ] < arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
not to forget Queen Bee's Kenyan Money Transfer Invention.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com>wrote:
> @Phillip Thanks, on a lighter note....... People like associating > stuff with Kenya with stuff. > > Obama - Kenyan - Public holiday declared on his victory. > Tusker - Kenyan - My country my Beer - Diageo PLC is major share > holder > That Space Center in Malindi, Kenya - Italian. > Thika Rd - Chinese :-) > Police Imposter ???? > > > Its sad > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote: > >> @Tusker, >> >> I am told, like everything else in Malindi, the Broglio Space Centre >> is sole property of the Italian Government/Whoever Controls It and >> Kenyans are not allowed anywhere near it. >> >> And the location is perfect, being so near the equator, it is >> usually >> cheaper and more efficient to launch space vehicles from there. >> _______________________________________________ >> skunkworks mailing list >> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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Tusker..(whatever) My point still stands - regardless of the fact that there is a spaceport on Kenyan soil (which is foreign designed, foreign owned, foreign operated) - we do *not* have engineering/scientific capacity for this kind of undertaking. In addition we do not have any industrial research and development, mechanical research & development, avation/avionics research & development, advanced engineering research & development programs. We are net consumers of high end technology - let's face it... Mblayo On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
I beg to differ......... Check out below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broglio_Space_Centre
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash,
I willl speak to you number 4 - since many seem to be avoiding it.
To land on the moon - or even simply carry out space flight is a feat of engineering - simply put, we don't have the engineering capacity in Kenya. In addition to that we are not innovating in that direction...
Mblayo
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
<boredom>
Now as I was crawling in traffic, with that bad road leading from Nakumatt Ukay towards the Westlands roundabout, something crossed my mind. In 1969 was the Apollo 11 Launch. Questions:
1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama?
</kill boredom>
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Dare to dream: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069222/Not-exactly-NASA-Ugandan-spa... And I predict, by 2050(!), EVERYONE may be using Chinese tech, for everything. Heck, we are using Chinese tech for plenty of stuff today. On 1/9/13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Tusker..(whatever)
My point still stands - regardless of the fact that there is a spaceport on Kenyan soil (which is foreign designed, foreign owned, foreign operated) - we do *not* have engineering/scientific capacity for this kind of undertaking.
In addition we do not have any industrial research and development, mechanical research & development, avation/avionics research & development, advanced engineering research & development programs.
We are net consumers of high end technology - let's face it...
Mblayo
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
I beg to differ......... Check out below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broglio_Space_Centre
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:
Wash,
I willl speak to you number 4 - since many seem to be avoiding it.
To land on the moon - or even simply carry out space flight is a feat of engineering - simply put, we don't have the engineering capacity in Kenya. In addition to that we are not innovating in that direction...
Mblayo
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
<boredom>
Now as I was crawling in traffic, with that bad road leading from Nakumatt Ukay towards the Westlands roundabout, something crossed my mind. In 1969 was the Apollo 11 Launch. Questions:
1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama?
</kill boredom>
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@Wash, I am see the space industry taking more of a private sector approach toward space as opposed to state sponsored exploration. Agencies like NASA have had their budgets cut, and the US Government seems to favor private companies such as SpaceX to carry on research and development of space industry. Now you can see where this is headed. If the approach works, space will become an commodity, just the PC and the internet, which stared as Government/Education Institution funded projects eventually became. It will become a matter of whether now we can afford it. If Kenya need to be in space, and we have a some spare money, we may just contract these companies to take us there. Think of Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic. Hell, if you have a few million dollars of change, you will be able to go to the moon. So the era of nations competing to go to the moon will be over. So to answer your original question, Kenya will probably never get a chance to go to the moon as a project of national pride. The novelty will have worn off by the time we have eradicated hunger, tribalism, political strife, urban decay, slums, health sector collapse, marginalized peoples and other social ills to get time to think about the space.
Kenya flag was sent in space in 2010 though http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/858498/-/vq1ti1/-/index.html On 9 January 2013 11:30, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
@Wash,
I am see the space industry taking more of a private sector approach toward space as opposed to state sponsored exploration. Agencies like NASA have had their budgets cut, and the US Government seems to favor private companies such as SpaceX to carry on research and development of space industry.
Now you can see where this is headed. If the approach works, space will become an commodity, just the PC and the internet, which stared as Government/Education Institution funded projects eventually became.
It will become a matter of whether now we can afford it. If Kenya need to be in space, and we have a some spare money, we may just contract these companies to take us there. Think of Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic. Hell, if you have a few million dollars of change, you will be able to go to the moon.
So the era of nations competing to go to the moon will be over. So to answer your original question, Kenya will probably never get a chance to go to the moon as a project of national pride. The novelty will have worn off by the time we have eradicated hunger, tribalism, political strife, urban decay, slums, health sector collapse, marginalized peoples and other social ills to get time to think about the space. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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While landing a man (or anything else) is a grand idea, couldn't we start smaller? Anyone remember Nyayo Pioneer? On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
<boredom>
Now as I was crawling in traffic, with that bad road leading from Nakumatt Ukay towards the Westlands roundabout, something crossed my mind. In 1969 was the Apollo 11 Launch. Questions:
1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama?
</kill boredom>
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Good point Motobaridi - comes back the issue of R&D in engineering areas... hakuna eni....guess we'll just have to settle for buying our tech. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM, MotoBaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
While landing a man (or anything else) is a grand idea, couldn't we start smaller? Anyone remember Nyayo Pioneer?
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
<boredom>
Now as I was crawling in traffic, with that bad road leading from Nakumatt Ukay towards the Westlands roundabout, something crossed my mind. In 1969 was the Apollo 11 Launch. Questions:
1. What type of computers were the Americans using in 1969 which made them so confident to place a soul (not the American flag) on the moon? 2. Why the hell did they call it Apollo? And why 11 and not 1? 3. When did Kenya start using computers? <LOL> 4. What vision figure does Kenya attach to landing it's own man on the moon? Vision 7070, ama?
</kill boredom>
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Well, for beginners, Kenya needs to start doing rockets, and makes sure the failed ones fall out at see and not on some village somewhere.
Let's go nuclear first !! On 9 January 2013 16:09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, for beginners, Kenya needs to start doing rockets, and makes sure the failed ones fall out at see and not on some village somewhere. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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@wash maybe apollo 11 was actually apollo 4 (00, 01, 10 and then 11) , i know one there are several launches that flopped, then one a monkey went for a ride, and then another some guy flew very high, and then the fourth one they went to plant footsteps in the moon. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, for beginners, Kenya needs to start doing rockets, and makes sure the failed ones fall out at see and not on some village somewhere. _______________________________________________ skunkworks mailing list skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke ------------ List info, subscribe/unsubscribe http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------
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participants (14)
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Areba Collins [ ＠BrainiacKE ® ] -
Brian Munyao Longwe -
Brian Ngure -
Bwana Lawi -
Dennis Kioko -
Evans Ikua -
James Nzomo -
kipropest -
MotoBaridi -
Odhiambo Washington -
Philip Musyoki -
TheBigBoss -
Tony Likhanga -
Tusker 21