Haiti Earthquake : police admit gangs have taken over Port-au-Prince
(sources, various net orgs) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week. Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week. The Haitian authorities, already weak and reliant on UN forces, are now crippled by heavy casualties and widespread destruction of infrastructure while international peacekeepers are focused on disaster relief. Jean-Max Bellerive, Haiti's prime minister, has despaired of the state's ability to tackle a new post-earthquake crime wave sweeping his country's devastated capital. "The problem is they have weapons so we cannot send the population or just any policemen to capture them," he said. The morale and strength of Haiti's police has been severely reduced by the loss of experienced officers, killed or injured, leaving recently trained recruits to hold the line. "We do not have the capacity to fix this situation. Haiti needs help. The Americans are welcome here. But where are they? We need them here on the street with us," said Dorsainvil Robenson, a police officer. Police officers, whose limited success against slum gang lords has been based on the support of armoured UN troops, have now effectively given up by appealing to local vigilantes to take the law into their own hands. "If you don't kill the criminals, they will all come back," Haitian police officers announce over loudspeakers from heavily armed checkpoints in the slum area. Residents say that people have been killed and several women raped in a turf war between gangsters nicknamed "Belony" and "Bled" in the six days following the earthquake which destroyed the prison. "The trouble is starting," said Jean-Semaine Delice, a 51-year-old father. Ten Brazilian peacekeepers were killed when a key local UN checkpoint at the entrance to Cite Soleil, known as the "Blue House", collapsed. The UN also lost its chief, deputy chief and acting police commander in earthquake, creating a dangerous power vacuum at a time when international peacekeepers have committed their diminished forces to aiding survivors
That's quite a crisis... I wish them all the best. On 20 January 2010 15:08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
(sources, various net orgs)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week. Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week.
The Haitian authorities, already weak and reliant on UN forces, are now crippled by heavy casualties and widespread destruction of infrastructure while international peacekeepers are focused on disaster relief. Jean-Max Bellerive, Haiti's prime minister, has despaired of the state's ability to tackle a new post-earthquake crime wave sweeping his country's devastated capital. "The problem is they have weapons so we cannot send the population or just any policemen to capture them," he said. The morale and strength of Haiti's police has been severely reduced by the loss of experienced officers, killed or injured, leaving recently trained recruits to hold the line. "We do not have the capacity to fix this situation. Haiti needs help. The Americans are welcome here. But where are they? We need them here on the street with us," said Dorsainvil Robenson, a police officer.
Police officers, whose limited success against slum gang lords has been based on the support of armoured UN troops, have now effectively given up by appealing to local vigilantes to take the law into their own hands. "If you don't kill the criminals, they will all come back," Haitian police officers announce over loudspeakers from heavily armed checkpoints in the slum area. Residents say that people have been killed and several women raped in a turf war between gangsters nicknamed "Belony" and "Bled" in the six days following the earthquake which destroyed the prison. "The trouble is starting," said Jean-Semaine Delice, a 51-year-old father.
Ten Brazilian peacekeepers were killed when a key local UN checkpoint at the entrance to Cite Soleil, known as the "Blue House", collapsed. The UN also lost its chief, deputy chief and acting police commander in earthquake, creating a dangerous power vacuum at a time when international peacekeepers have committed their diminished forces to aiding survivors
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Indeed! --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> wrote: From: Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Haiti Earthquake : police admit gangs have taken over Port-au-Prince To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 1:52 PM That's quite a crisis... I wish them all the best. On 20 January 2010 15:08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: (sources, various net orgs) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week. Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week. The Haitian authorities, already weak and reliant on UN forces, are now crippled by heavy casualties and widespread destruction of infrastructure while international peacekeepers are focused on disaster relief. Jean-Max Bellerive, Haiti's prime minister, has despaired of the state's ability to tackle a new post-earthquake crime wave sweeping his country's devastated capital. "The problem is they have weapons so we cannot send the population or just any policemen to capture them," he said. The morale and strength of Haiti's police has been severely reduced by the loss of experienced officers, killed or injured, leaving recently trained recruits to hold the line. "We do not have the capacity to fix this situation. Haiti needs help. The Americans are welcome here. But where are they? We need them here on the street with us," said Dorsainvil Robenson, a police officer. Police officers, whose limited success against slum gang lords has been based on the support of armoured UN troops, have now effectively given up by appealing to local vigilantes to take the law into their own hands. "If you don't kill the criminals, they will all come back," Haitian police officers announce over loudspeakers from heavily armed checkpoints in the slum area. Residents say that people have been killed and several women raped in a turf war between gangsters nicknamed "Belony" and "Bled" in the six days following the earthquake which destroyed the prison. "The trouble is starting," said Jean-Semaine Delice, a 51-year-old father. Ten Brazilian peacekeepers were killed when a key local UN checkpoint at the entrance to Cite Soleil, known as the "Blue House", collapsed. The UN also lost its chief, deputy chief and acting police commander in earthquake, creating a dangerous power vacuum at a time when international peacekeepers have committed their diminished forces to aiding survivors _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- Be kind to your dentist - he has fillings too... -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1f... ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
Assorted sources? Which ones, so we can fact-check? They may all be referencing the same source, in which case there would be no "assorted sources", just a single-source. Most likely they're all referencing the Associated Press, or Reuters. Sensational news stories exist in a curious echo-chamber that often blinds one to alternate realities. The story of Haiti "looting" fits into a well-worn media pattern that started since the early days of Katrina "looting." Here's a small summary of the complexities of describing "looting" in a disaster situation: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/Should-We-Call-It-Looti... Let's also not forget the racial angle to all this: these classic captions from the AP and AFP images of Hurricane Katrina sum it up well: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blkatrinalooting.htm Saidi On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:17 AM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
Indeed!
--- On *Thu, 1/21/10, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Haiti Earthquake : police admit gangs have taken over Port-au-Prince To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 1:52 PM
That's quite a crisis... I wish them all the best.
On 20 January 2010 15:08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com<http://mc/compose?to=aki275@googlemail.com>
wrote:
(sources, various net orgs)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week. Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week.
The Haitian authorities, already weak and reliant on UN forces, are now crippled by heavy casualties and widespread destruction of infrastructure while international peacekeepers are focused on disaster relief. Jean-Max Bellerive, Haiti's prime minister, has despaired of the state's ability to tackle a new post-earthquake crime wave sweeping his country's devastated capital. "The problem is they have weapons so we cannot send the population or just any policemen to capture them," he said. The morale and strength of Haiti's police has been severely reduced by the loss of experienced officers, killed or injured, leaving recently trained recruits to hold the line. "We do not have the capacity to fix this situation. Haiti needs help. The Americans are welcome here. But where are they? We need them here on the street with us," said Dorsainvil Robenson, a police officer.
Police officers, whose limited success against slum gang lords has been based on the support of armoured UN troops, have now effectively given up by appealing to local vigilantes to take the law into their own hands. "If you don't kill the criminals, they will all come back," Haitian police officers announce over loudspeakers from heavily armed checkpoints in the slum area. Residents say that people have been killed and several women raped in a turf war between gangsters nicknamed "Belony" and "Bled" in the six days following the earthquake which destroyed the prison. "The trouble is starting," said Jean-Semaine Delice, a 51-year-old father.
Ten Brazilian peacekeepers were killed when a key local UN checkpoint at the entrance to Cite Soleil, known as the "Blue House", collapsed. The UN also lost its chief, deputy chief and acting police commander in earthquake, creating a dangerous power vacuum at a time when international peacekeepers have committed their diminished forces to aiding survivors
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I heard it yesterday morning on BBC Radio. Googling it can also give you more sources. http://is.gd/6RcVv On 22 January 2010 22:43, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Assorted sources? Which ones, so we can fact-check? They may all be referencing the same source, in which case there would be no "assorted sources", just a single-source. Most likely they're all referencing the Associated Press, or Reuters.
Sensational news stories exist in a curious echo-chamber that often blinds one to alternate realities. The story of Haiti "looting" fits into a well-worn media pattern that started since the early days of Katrina "looting."
Here's a small summary of the complexities of describing "looting" in a disaster situation: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/Should-We-Call-It-Looti...
Let's also not forget the racial angle to all this: these classic captions from the AP and AFP images of Hurricane Katrina sum it up well:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blkatrinalooting.htm
Saidi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:17 AM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
Indeed!
--- On *Thu, 1/21/10, Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Simon Mbuthia <simon.mbuthia@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Haiti Earthquake : police admit gangs have taken over Port-au-Prince To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 1:52 PM
That's quite a crisis... I wish them all the best.
On 20 January 2010 15:08, aki <aki275@googlemail.com<http://mc/compose?to=aki275@googlemail.com>
wrote:
(sources, various net orgs)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week. Haitian authorities conceded they had lost their battle to maintain order in Port-au-Prince after the leaders of the city's crime gangs reclaimed their old turf since being freed when the national prison collapsed last week.
The Haitian authorities, already weak and reliant on UN forces, are now crippled by heavy casualties and widespread destruction of infrastructure while international peacekeepers are focused on disaster relief. Jean-Max Bellerive, Haiti's prime minister, has despaired of the state's ability to tackle a new post-earthquake crime wave sweeping his country's devastated capital. "The problem is they have weapons so we cannot send the population or just any policemen to capture them," he said. The morale and strength of Haiti's police has been severely reduced by the loss of experienced officers, killed or injured, leaving recently trained recruits to hold the line. "We do not have the capacity to fix this situation. Haiti needs help. The Americans are welcome here. But where are they? We need them here on the street with us," said Dorsainvil Robenson, a police officer.
Police officers, whose limited success against slum gang lords has been based on the support of armoured UN troops, have now effectively given up by appealing to local vigilantes to take the law into their own hands. "If you don't kill the criminals, they will all come back," Haitian police officers announce over loudspeakers from heavily armed checkpoints in the slum area. Residents say that people have been killed and several women raped in a turf war between gangsters nicknamed "Belony" and "Bled" in the six days following the earthquake which destroyed the prison. "The trouble is starting," said Jean-Semaine Delice, a 51-year-old father.
Ten Brazilian peacekeepers were killed when a key local UN checkpoint at the entrance to Cite Soleil, known as the "Blue House", collapsed. The UN also lost its chief, deputy chief and acting police commander in earthquake, creating a dangerous power vacuum at a time when international peacekeepers have committed their diminished forces to aiding survivors
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