Zain / Celtel? Shida nyingi kweli....

For all the rattling Zain seems to get every now and then, we'd expect something for the better. Sadly that doesn't seem to be happening. Jana I dialed 222 hoping to speak to a customer care rep. "*Sorry, Celtel Customer Care is not available at the moment. Please try again later*" Seriously, will Zain / Celtel ever change for the better? Seems to me they have not only reached rock bottom, they have actually started to dig......... ------------------------------ <MotoBaridi, incoherently mumbling to self since 1981> ------------------------------ T: +254 722 296 184 , +254 732 296 654

Not only is the zain customer care department becoming pathetic, but accessing internet on the HSPDA Modem, is too slow! Now, what will they tell us is the cause? On 14/04/2009, MotoBaridi <motobaridi@motobaridi.com> wrote:
For all the rattling Zain seems to get every now and then, we'd expect something for the better. Sadly that doesn't seem to be happening. Jana I dialed 222 hoping to speak to a customer care rep.
"*Sorry, Celtel Customer Care is not available at the moment. Please try again later*"
Seriously, will Zain / Celtel ever change for the better? Seems to me they have not only reached rock bottom, they have actually started to dig.........
------------------------------ <MotoBaridi, incoherently mumbling to self since 1981> ------------------------------ T: +254 722 296 184 , +254 732 296 654
-- Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Not only is the zain customer care department becoming pathetic, but accessing internet on the HSPDA Modem, is too slow! Now, what will they tell us is the cause?
Wait.. Zain supports HSDPA since when? I thought it's EDGE only. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain

At least that is what the cover of the modem case says. It also includes UMTS (or something like that), 3G and another specification I cannot recall well. These Chinese products - like HUAWEI Modem - could be the cause of poor internet access on zain. Do Safcom and Orange use the same Chinese outfits? On 14/04/2009, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Not only is the zain customer care department becoming pathetic, but accessing internet on the HSPDA Modem, is too slow! Now, what will they tell us is the cause?
Wait.. Zain supports HSDPA since when? I thought it's EDGE only.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain
-- Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!

Solomon, The modem supports EDGE, HSDPA, and there are modems which will support HSUPA. What really determines the speeds is what technology the network (zain/safcom) supports. there are other considerations though which will determine the speed within one network. The same Modem on safcom will support higher speeds. rgds karanja On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
At least that is what the cover of the modem case says. It also includes UMTS (or something like that), 3G and another specification I cannot recall well. These Chinese products - like HUAWEI Modem - could be the cause of poor internet access on zain. Do Safcom and Orange use the same Chinese outfits?
On 14/04/2009, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com wrote:
Not only is the zain customer care department becoming pathetic, but accessing internet on the HSPDA Modem, is too slow! Now, what will they tell us is the cause?
Wait.. Zain supports HSDPA since when? I thought it's EDGE only.
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
At least that is what the cover of the modem case says. It also includes UMTS (or something like that), 3G and another specification I cannot recall well. These Chinese products - like HUAWEI Modem - could be the cause of poor internet access on zain. Do Safcom and Orange use the same Chinese outfits?
All the data modems used in Kenya are from China, and mostly Huawei. Safaricom and even Orange uses them too. Anyway, Zain could have given you a 3G capable modem, but their network still doesn't support 3G, only EDGE. I could be behind the news though.... I use Safaricom 3G. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain

why do i have a feeling zain/celtel/<insert anything here> will change hands yet again - or just fade out of meaningful existence sooner than expected? otoh, their FaF package is good - so far... On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Not only is the zain customer care department becoming pathetic, but accessing internet on the HSPDA Modem, is too slow! Now, what will they tell us is the cause?
On 14/04/2009, MotoBaridi <motobaridi@motobaridi.com> wrote:
For all the rattling Zain seems to get every now and then, we'd expect something for the better. Sadly that doesn't seem to be happening. Jana I dialed 222 hoping to speak to a customer care rep.
"*Sorry, Celtel Customer Care is not available at the moment. Please try again later*"
Seriously, will Zain / Celtel ever change for the better? Seems to me they have not only reached rock bottom, they have actually started to dig.........
------------------------------ <MotoBaridi, incoherently mumbling to self since 1981> ------------------------------ T: +254 722 296 184 , +254 732 296 654
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"*Sorry, Celtel Customer Care is not available at the moment. Please try again later*"
Maybe it is because they did a bit of downsizing recently [?] -- Δαβίδ Charles de Gaulle<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html> - "The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs."

Maybe,but "drop department customer_care" was the best they could come up with? 2009/4/14 David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com>
"*Sorry, Celtel Customer Care is not available at the moment. Please try
again later*"
Maybe it is because they did a bit of downsizing recently [?]
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@Odhiambo, meza hayo mate ya kusema Zain is likely to change ?_@,_!.,_//'|{)}]>€$. On 14/04/2009, MotoBaridi <motobaridi@motobaridi.com> wrote:
Maybe,but "drop department customer_care" was the best they could come up with?
2009/4/14 David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com>
"Sorry, Celtel Customer Care is not available at the moment. Please try again later"
Maybe it is because they did a bit of downsizing recently [?]
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2009/4/14 Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>
@Odhiambo, meza hayo mate ya kusema Zain is likely to change ?_@,_!.,_//'|{)}]>¤$.
Haikuwa mimi! Ni MotoBaridi alisema:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain

zain has no 3G... and strangely, its only in kenya that zain/celtel is doing a bit bad.. in other african countries, its a force to recon with. and to add to the strangeness, zain kenya has more subscribers than most of those african countries [the kenyan population is relatively high when compared to other countries] ooh, and they did not fire/drop customer care, just the planning guys [cos apparently they are not planning to expand]. I understand that one of the biggest loses was in the vuka thing,, 8/- for all networks ?? made them about 9 billion loss? In essence, am told that Zain was actually paying for those calls, hoping for a customer pick-up,, which did not happen soon enough, though it was slowly taking place.. Reason ? Safaricom was charging them 5/- connection fee, slap in taxes about or almost 2 shillings. Then you remain with about 1 gross shilling for every 1 minute 8 shilling call. Now when you look at after company expenditure profit [and kenyans calling habits] - you can understand the (-ve)9billion. ======= The big question is ?? Are there unfair business practices ?? Looking at the fact that zain/celtel has been pushing for lower connection rates but with no success at the courts,,, one can understand why as a company i would like to maintain a one way bottle neck where if i am stronger, i would heftly fine customers trying to call other networks therefore creating the common fear that we hear alot these days:- "You are in zain/orange/econet, i cant call you, you call me" Another point ========== The government owns CCK, Telkom and therefore part of safcom and orange... Now if I was the government, why the hell would i help my competitors rise against me ?? Kinda like owning both the referees and a set of teams in a national match. :-)

Steve, your analysis speaks a lot of painful sense. Have you noticed that Zain have a strategy department which should be planning on expansion plans. In addition, retrenching workers where the market trend is against you, is the worst thing zain did. anyone from zain in this forum? We need to give them our 2 Cents ideas. On 14/04/2009, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
zain has no 3G...
and strangely, its only in kenya that zain/celtel is doing a bit bad.. in other african countries, its a force to recon with. and to add to the strangeness, zain kenya has more subscribers than most of those african countries [the kenyan population is relatively high when compared to other countries]
ooh, and they did not fire/drop customer care, just the planning guys [cos apparently they are not planning to expand].
I understand that one of the biggest loses was in the vuka thing,, 8/- for all networks ?? made them about 9 billion loss? In essence, am told that Zain was actually paying for those calls, hoping for a customer pick-up,, which did not happen soon enough, though it was slowly taking place..
Reason ? Safaricom was charging them 5/- connection fee, slap in taxes about or almost 2 shillings. Then you remain with about 1 gross shilling for every 1 minute 8 shilling call. Now when you look at after company expenditure profit [and kenyans calling habits] - you can understand the (-ve)9billion.
======= The big question is ?? Are there unfair business practices ?? Looking at the fact that zain/celtel has been pushing for lower connection rates but with no success at the courts,,, one can understand why as a company i would like to maintain a one way bottle neck where if i am stronger, i would heftly fine customers trying to call other networks therefore creating the common fear that we hear alot these days:-
"You are in zain/orange/econet, i cant call you, you call me"
Another point ========== The government owns CCK, Telkom and therefore part of safcom and orange... Now if I was the government, why the hell would i help my competitors rise against me ?? Kinda like owning both the referees and a set of teams in a national match. :-)
-- Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill!

@ndungu you are partially right but zain(when kencell) made a tactical blunder by insisting on per minute billing and gave safaricom a head start and.. marketing!!! celtel/zain (zain kidogo improved) below average and safaricom are on top on that with extra services like 3g, bonga point, mpesa et c but if u ask me zain has a better deal for voice most of us are just locked up in safaricom coz of the convinience of peopl i call oftenly are in safcom (look at your phone book) how many guyz are in zain. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve, your analysis speaks a lot of painful sense. Have you noticed that Zain have a strategy department which should be planning on expansion plans. In addition, retrenching workers where the market trend is against you, is the worst thing zain did. anyone from zain in this forum? We need to give them our 2 Cents ideas.
On 14/04/2009, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
zain has no 3G...
and strangely, its only in kenya that zain/celtel is doing a bit bad.. in other african countries, its a force to recon with. and to add to the strangeness, zain kenya has more subscribers than most of those african countries [the kenyan population is relatively high when compared to other countries]
ooh, and they did not fire/drop customer care, just the planning guys [cos apparently they are not planning to expand].
I understand that one of the biggest loses was in the vuka thing,, 8/- for all networks ?? made them about 9 billion loss? In essence, am told that Zain was actually paying for those calls, hoping for a customer pick-up,, which did not happen soon enough, though it was slowly taking place..
Reason ? Safaricom was charging them 5/- connection fee, slap in taxes about or almost 2 shillings. Then you remain with about 1 gross shilling for every 1 minute 8 shilling call. Now when you look at after company expenditure profit [and kenyans calling habits] - you can understand the (-ve)9billion.
======= The big question is ?? Are there unfair business practices ?? Looking at the fact that zain/celtel has been pushing for lower connection rates but with no success at the courts,,, one can understand why as a company i would like to maintain a one way bottle neck where if i am stronger, i would heftly fine customers trying to call other networks therefore creating the common fear that we hear alot these days:-
"You are in zain/orange/econet, i cant call you, you call me"
Another point ========== The government owns CCK, Telkom and therefore part of safcom and orange... Now if I was the government, why the hell would i help my competitors rise against me ?? Kinda like owning both the referees and a set of teams in a national match. :-)
-- Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke

@ndungu you are partially right but zain(when kencell) made a tactical
blunder by insisting on per minute billing and gave safaricom a head start and.. marketing!!! celtel/zain (zain kidogo improved) below average and safaricom are on top on that with extra services like 3g, bonga point, mpesa et c but if u ask me zain has a better deal for voice most of us are just locked up in safaricom coz of the convinience of peopl i call oftenly are in safcom (look at your phone book) how many guyz are in zain.
I must admit i have very few guys in my phonebook in other networks, though i have tried to encourage 'cheaper calling rates' with no success,,, i am not againist safcom, they have offered a lot of good service that is keeping the subscribers. The marketing department is also super. I remember them telling us that when they first came up with the mpesa idea [i.e the kiosks idea] only one guy showed up and he slept through out the meeting [cos he was on ramadhan]. But put the marketing guys a few months later, a few choir songs on radio and every kenyan is curious to try it out. Now strangely, i have not heard anything on Zap, i know they are on trial,, but still....!!!?? Back in the country side, no one knows about Zap,, [i.e citing majority] ======== However, my point focuses on whether Zain [and others] are disadvantaged or not,,, i think they are.. citing that the government has stakes in the 3 telco companies...not forgetting that the backbone of telco connections rests on telkom. Secondly, kenyans are very oriented on taking sides,, Zain which bought Kencell [but Zain is not kencell] was disadvantaged from the beginning because people associated it with 'a rich man's network'. Whilst forgetting that if you hook up the majority, then the 'rich' will most definitely follow. For example the students [wasotaji] of yesterday, are the working class of tomorrow. I dont think kenyans have forgiven them yet. :-) If zain wins its current "connection fee wars" in court, I think they will claim a level playing field,,, what will remain is to compete on services and tariffs.

This mess ends the day CCK allows for number porting... On 4/14/09, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
@ndungu you are partially right but zain(when kencell) made a tactical
blunder by insisting on per minute billing and gave safaricom a head start and.. marketing!!! celtel/zain (zain kidogo improved) below average and safaricom are on top on that with extra services like 3g, bonga point, mpesa et c but if u ask me zain has a better deal for voice most of us are just locked up in safaricom coz of the convinience of peopl i call oftenly are in safcom (look at your phone book) how many guyz are in zain.
I must admit i have very few guys in my phonebook in other networks, though i have tried to encourage 'cheaper calling rates' with no success,,, i am not againist safcom, they have offered a lot of good service that is keeping the subscribers. The marketing department is also super. I remember them telling us that when they first came up with the mpesa idea [i.e the kiosks idea] only one guy showed up and he slept through out the meeting [cos he was on ramadhan]. But put the marketing guys a few months later, a few choir songs on radio and every kenyan is curious to try it out.
Now strangely, i have not heard anything on Zap, i know they are on trial,, but still....!!!?? Back in the country side, no one knows about Zap,, [i.e citing majority] ========
However, my point focuses on whether Zain [and others] are disadvantaged or not,,, i think they are.. citing that the government has stakes in the 3 telco companies...not forgetting that the backbone of telco connections rests on telkom.
Secondly, kenyans are very oriented on taking sides,, Zain which bought Kencell [but Zain is not kencell] was disadvantaged from the beginning because people associated it with 'a rich man's network'.
Whilst forgetting that if you hook up the majority, then the 'rich' will most definitely follow. For example the students [wasotaji] of yesterday, are the working class of tomorrow.
I dont think kenyans have forgiven them yet. :-)
If zain wins its current "connection fee wars" in court, I think they will claim a level playing field,,, what will remain is to compete on services and tariffs.
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Moto Baridi, Am not on Zain but I recall using 707 or 710 to call the customer care one time in my life.Try that. Right now am wondering whats wrong with the celtels EDGE.I think the highest speed I have seen today is 4kpbs.Hata emails kusoma ni shida.Its just useless at that level,after being touted as the best network,right now its just messed up.I wish they could offer better data services.Safaricom/Orange right now is making a kill out of it and the demand for Data on mobile devices is just too high. On 14/04/2009, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
This mess ends the day CCK allows for number porting...
On 4/14/09, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
@ndungu you are partially right but zain(when kencell) made a tactical
blunder by insisting on per minute billing and gave safaricom a head start and.. marketing!!! celtel/zain (zain kidogo improved) below average and safaricom are on top on that with extra services like 3g, bonga point, mpesa et c but if u ask me zain has a better deal for voice most of us are just locked up in safaricom coz of the convinience of peopl i call oftenly are in safcom (look at your phone book) how many guyz are in zain.
I must admit i have very few guys in my phonebook in other networks, though i have tried to encourage 'cheaper calling rates' with no success,,, i am not againist safcom, they have offered a lot of good service that is keeping the subscribers. The marketing department is also super. I remember them telling us that when they first came up with the mpesa idea [i.e the kiosks idea] only one guy showed up and he slept through out the meeting [cos he was on ramadhan]. But put the marketing guys a few months later, a few choir songs on radio and every kenyan is curious to try it out.
Now strangely, i have not heard anything on Zap, i know they are on trial,, but still....!!!?? Back in the country side, no one knows about Zap,, [i.e citing majority] ========
However, my point focuses on whether Zain [and others] are disadvantaged or not,,, i think they are.. citing that the government has stakes in the 3 telco companies...not forgetting that the backbone of telco connections rests on telkom.
Secondly, kenyans are very oriented on taking sides,, Zain which bought Kencell [but Zain is not kencell] was disadvantaged from the beginning because people associated it with 'a rich man's network'.
Whilst forgetting that if you hook up the majority, then the 'rich' will most definitely follow. For example the students [wasotaji] of yesterday, are the working class of tomorrow.
I dont think kenyans have forgiven them yet. :-)
If zain wins its current "connection fee wars" in court, I think they will claim a level playing field,,, what will remain is to compete on services and tariffs.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
-- James M. Muendo Timsoft Technologies & Solutions Ltd. P.O Box 28016 - 00200, Nairobi. Mobile: +254725567508 skype:tim.rick http://rickdeesadvantage.blogspot.com/

@ Phares number porting will be the end of LCR 2009/4/14 James Muendo <timrick@gmail.com>
Moto Baridi,
Am not on Zain but I recall using 707 or 710 to call the customer care one time in my life.Try that.
Right now am wondering whats wrong with the celtels EDGE.I think the highest speed I have seen today is 4kpbs.Hata emails kusoma ni shida.Its just useless at that level,after being touted as the best network,right now its just messed up.I wish they could offer better data services.Safaricom/Orange right now is making a kill out of it and the demand for Data on mobile devices is just too high.
On 14/04/2009, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
This mess ends the day CCK allows for number porting...
On 4/14/09, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote:
@ndungu you are partially right but zain(when kencell) made a tactical
blunder by insisting on per minute billing and gave safaricom a head start and.. marketing!!! celtel/zain (zain kidogo improved) below average and safaricom are on top on that with extra services like 3g, bonga point, mpesa et c but if u ask me zain has a better deal for voice most of us are
just
locked up in safaricom coz of the convinience of peopl i call oftenly are in safcom (look at your phone book) how many guyz are in zain.
I must admit i have very few guys in my phonebook in other networks, though i have tried to encourage 'cheaper calling rates' with no success,,, i am not againist safcom, they have offered a lot of good service that is keeping the subscribers. The marketing department is also super. I remember them telling us that when they first came up with the mpesa idea [i.e the kiosks idea] only one guy showed up and he slept through out the meeting [cos he was on ramadhan]. But put the marketing guys a few months later, a few choir songs on radio and every kenyan is curious to try it out.
Now strangely, i have not heard anything on Zap, i know they are on trial,, but still....!!!?? Back in the country side, no one knows about Zap,, [i.e citing majority] ========
However, my point focuses on whether Zain [and others] are disadvantaged or not,,, i think they are.. citing that the government has stakes in the 3 telco companies...not forgetting that the backbone of telco connections rests on telkom.
Secondly, kenyans are very oriented on taking sides,, Zain which bought Kencell [but Zain is not kencell] was disadvantaged from the beginning because people associated it with 'a rich man's network'.
Whilst forgetting that if you hook up the majority, then the 'rich' will most definitely follow. For example the students [wasotaji] of yesterday, are the working class of tomorrow.
I dont think kenyans have forgiven them yet. :-)
If zain wins its current "connection fee wars" in court, I think they will claim a level playing field,,, what will remain is to compete on services and tariffs.
_______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke
-- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
-- James M. Muendo Timsoft Technologies & Solutions Ltd. P.O Box 28016 - 00200, Nairobi. Mobile: +254725567508 skype:tim.rick
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participants (10)
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Brian Lusiola
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David Njuki
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James Muendo
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MotoBaridi
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ndungu stephen
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Odhiambo Washington
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Patrick Karanja
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Phares Kariuki
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Solomon Mburu
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Steve