
Dear All, So I have been thinking lately, the forum has brought together some of the most brilliant minds in ICT in Kenya and around. Which is all good, but now I think somethings are getting out of control. It has been a useful resource but all this is really getting lost is the myriads of abusive language some threads are taking. Now the utility is being dimished by some people, or rather I think it is just one person who goes by many alias. To the moderators/administrators of the forum, it is possible to limit email distribution to those subscribed to the list, prevent cross-posting and somehow place some control on new subscriptions? Maybe you can adapt a by invitation only system where by new members will need to be invited by an existing member. Soon, with the direction the language in this forum is taking, it will become a forum of no value like some other forums I know. Many people are now shying away from contributing for fear of being personally attacked by some characters. Thanks.

As much as I understand where you are coming from, controlling new subscriptions is not the way out. That will defeat one of the main purpose of the list. My take is that should a thread get out of hand everyone should just stop contributing to it and ignore it all together. Whoever is found to be abusive can be given a blackout. Freedom should not be curtailed because of a few. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
So I have been thinking lately, the forum has brought together some of the most brilliant minds in ICT in Kenya and around. Which is all good, but now I think somethings are getting out of control. It has been a useful resource but all this is really getting lost is the myriads of abusive language some threads are taking.
Now the utility is being dimished by some people, or rather I think it is just one person who goes by many alias. To the moderators/administrators of the forum, it is possible to limit email distribution to those subscribed to the list, prevent cross-posting and somehow place some control on new subscriptions? Maybe you can adapt a by invitation only system where by new members will need to be invited by an existing member.
Soon, with the direction the language in this forum is taking, it will become a forum of no value like some other forums I know. Many people are now shying away from contributing for fear of being personally attacked by some characters.
Thanks.
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I agree and this "Onyango" has now been made so famous since you know the mantra. "All publicity is good publicity". This man is surely not going for the Pope's seat and so might not need the good accolades after all and he will be a good recruit for anyone interested in an internet *** kicker. So lets just ignore a thread we feel dont warrant our time On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com> wrote:
As much as I understand where you are coming from, controlling new subscriptions is not the way out. That will defeat one of the main purpose of the list. My take is that should a thread get out of hand everyone should just stop contributing to it and ignore it all together. Whoever is found to be abusive can be given a blackout. Freedom should not be curtailed because of a few.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear All,
So I have been thinking lately, the forum has brought together some of the most brilliant minds in ICT in Kenya and around. Which is all good, but now I think somethings are getting out of control. It has been a useful resource but all this is really getting lost is the myriads of abusive language some threads are taking.
Now the utility is being dimished by some people, or rather I think it is just one person who goes by many alias. To the moderators/administrators of the forum, it is possible to limit email distribution to those subscribed to the list, prevent cross-posting and somehow place some control on new subscriptions? Maybe you can adapt a by invitation only system where by new members will need to be invited by an existing member.
Soon, with the direction the language in this forum is taking, it will become a forum of no value like some other forums I know. Many people are now shying away from contributing for fear of being personally attacked by some characters.
Thanks.
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I concur with Philip on this. Some form of strict moderation are needed, for example, because any comment is posted it should be verified by the moderators. In addIn addition, the moderators can 'fire' all of us and we re-apply for consideration. The re-application can have strict applications rules. We need to return some sanity in this forum. On cross-posting, there should not be some banishment. Individual lists should have their own moderation. On 10/09/2009, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree and this "Onyango" has now been made so famous since you know the mantra. "All publicity is good publicity". This man is surely not going for the Pope's seat and so might not need the good accolades after all and he will be a good recruit for anyone interested in an internet *** kicker. So lets just ignore a thread we feel dont warrant our time
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com> wrote:
As much as I understand where you are coming from, controlling new subscriptions is not the way out. That will defeat one of the main purpose of the list. My take is that should a thread get out of hand everyone should just stop contributing to it and ignore it all together. Whoever is found to be abusive can be given a blackout. Freedom should not be curtailed because of a few.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear All,
So I have been thinking lately, the forum has brought together some of the most brilliant minds in ICT in Kenya and around. Which is all good, but now I think somethings are getting out of control. It has been a useful resource but all this is really getting lost is the myriads of abusive language some threads are taking.
Now the utility is being dimished by some people, or rather I think it is just one person who goes by many alias. To the moderators/administrators of the forum, it is possible to limit email distribution to those subscribed to the list, prevent cross-posting and somehow place some control on new subscriptions? Maybe you can adapt a by invitation only system where by new members will need to be invited by an existing member.
Soon, with the direction the language in this forum is taking, it will become a forum of no value like some other forums I know. Many people are now shying away from contributing for fear of being personally attacked by some characters.
Thanks.
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Solomon The moderators wont go the way of "fire all" since they fear loosing the numbers. How many are in the list? How many are serious contributors? And are the serious contributors the only valued members? I think that the silent always in such lists have more power and value than the everyday contributors but for show of list activity, the contributors are neccessary. Anyway thats my 2 cents and am out of here kidogo On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur with Philip on this. Some form of strict moderation are needed, for example, because any comment is posted it should be verified by the moderators. In addIn addition, the moderators can 'fire' all of us and we re-apply for consideration. The re-application can have strict applications rules. We need to return some sanity in this forum. On cross-posting, there should not be some banishment. Individual lists should have their own moderation.
On 10/09/2009, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree and this "Onyango" has now been made so famous since you know the mantra. "All publicity is good publicity". This man is surely not going for the Pope's seat and so might not need the good accolades after all and he will be a good recruit for anyone interested in an internet *** kicker. So lets just ignore a thread we feel dont warrant our time
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com> wrote:
As much as I understand where you are coming from, controlling new subscriptions is not the way out. That will defeat one of the main purpose of the list. My take is that should a thread get out of hand everyone should just stop contributing to it and ignore it all together. Whoever is found to be abusive can be given a blackout. Freedom should not be curtailed because of a few.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
So I have been thinking lately, the forum has brought together some of the most brilliant minds in ICT in Kenya and around. Which is all good, but now I think somethings are getting out of control. It has been a useful resource but all this is really getting lost is the myriads of abusive language some threads are taking.
Now the utility is being dimished by some people, or rather I think it is just one person who goes by many alias. To the moderators/administrators of the forum, it is possible to limit email distribution to those subscribed to the list, prevent cross-posting and somehow place some control on new subscriptions? Maybe you can adapt a by invitation only system where by new members will need to be invited by an existing member.
Soon, with the direction the language in this forum is taking, it will become a forum of no value like some other forums I know. Many people are now shying away from contributing for fear of being personally attacked by some characters.
Thanks.
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In agreement with theus and odada, members have a role of keeping off non constructive stuff, and the moderators keeping tabs of discussions that are headed down the drain and issuing an alert to the protagonists, then a warning, then maybe a suspension. On 9/10/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Solomon
The moderators wont go the way of "fire all" since they fear loosing the numbers. How many are in the list? How many are serious contributors? And are the serious contributors the only valued members? I think that the silent always in such lists have more power and value than the everyday contributors but for show of list activity, the contributors are neccessary.
Anyway thats my 2 cents and am out of here kidogo
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur with Philip on this. Some form of strict moderation are needed, for example, because any comment is posted it should be verified by the moderators. In addIn addition, the moderators can 'fire' all of us and we re-apply for consideration. The re-application can have strict applications rules. We need to return some sanity in this forum. On cross-posting, there should not be some banishment. Individual lists should have their own moderation.
On 10/09/2009, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree and this "Onyango" has now been made so famous since you know the mantra. "All publicity is good publicity". This man is surely not going for the Pope's seat and so might not need the good accolades after all and he will be a good recruit for anyone interested in an internet *** kicker. So lets just ignore a thread we feel dont warrant our time
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com> wrote:
As much as I understand where you are coming from, controlling new subscriptions is not the way out. That will defeat one of the main purpose of the list. My take is that should a thread get out of hand everyone should just stop contributing to it and ignore it all together. Whoever is found to be abusive can be given a blackout. Freedom should not be curtailed because of a few.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
So I have been thinking lately, the forum has brought together some of the most brilliant minds in ICT in Kenya and around. Which is all good, but now I think somethings are getting out of control. It has been a useful resource but all this is really getting lost is the myriads of abusive language some threads are taking.
Now the utility is being dimished by some people, or rather I think it is just one person who goes by many alias. To the moderators/administrators of the forum, it is possible to limit email distribution to those subscribed to the list, prevent cross-posting and somehow place some control on new subscriptions? Maybe you can adapt a by invitation only system where by new members will need to be invited by an existing member.
Soon, with the direction the language in this forum is taking, it will become a forum of no value like some other forums I know. Many people are now shying away from contributing for fear of being personally attacked by some characters.
Thanks.
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Suggestion: lets go the forum way. That has a lot of control while encouraging freedom. Just my 2 cents On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
In agreement with theus and odada, members have a role of keeping off non constructive stuff, and the moderators keeping tabs of discussions that are headed down the drain and issuing an alert to the protagonists, then a warning, then maybe a suspension.
On 9/10/09, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Solomon
The moderators wont go the way of "fire all" since they fear loosing the numbers. How many are in the list? How many are serious contributors? And are the serious contributors the only valued members? I think that the silent always in such lists have more power and value than the everyday contributors but for show of list activity, the contributors are neccessary.
Anyway thats my 2 cents and am out of here kidogo
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur with Philip on this. Some form of strict moderation are needed, for example, because any comment is posted it should be verified by the moderators. In addIn addition, the moderators can 'fire' all of us and we re-apply for consideration. The re-application can have strict applications rules. We need to return some sanity in this forum. On cross-posting, there should not be some banishment. Individual lists should have their own moderation.
On 10/09/2009, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree and this "Onyango" has now been made so famous since you know the mantra. "All publicity is good publicity". This man is surely not going for the Pope's seat and so might not need the good accolades after all and he will be a good recruit for anyone interested in an internet *** kicker. So lets just ignore a thread we feel dont warrant our time
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com> wrote:
As much as I understand where you are coming from, controlling new subscriptions is not the way out. That will defeat one of the main purpose of the list. My take is that should a thread get out of hand everyone should just stop contributing to it and ignore it all together. Whoever is found to be abusive can be given a blackout. Freedom should not be curtailed because of a few.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
So I have been thinking lately, the forum has brought together some of the most brilliant minds in ICT in Kenya and around. Which is all good, but now I think somethings are getting out of control. It has been a useful resource but all this is really getting lost is the myriads of abusive language some threads are taking.
Now the utility is being dimished by some people, or rather I think it is just one person who goes by many alias. To the moderators/administrators of the forum, it is possible to limit email distribution to those subscribed to the list, prevent cross-posting and somehow place some control on new subscriptions? Maybe you can adapt a by invitation only system where by new members will need to be invited by an existing member.
Soon, with the direction the language in this forum is taking, it will become a forum of no value like some other forums I know. Many people are now shying away from contributing for fear of being personally attacked by some characters.
Thanks.
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur with Philip on this. Some form of strict moderation are needed, for example...........
I agree, but mods will become full time and over burdened. I also agree that sometimes, myself included, criticise too much and it maybe putting others off on valuable contributions. But what has made me smile is Hatari, though his methods are not directed correctly. Abuse is not a good thing, respect others. MJ and Safaricom made kenya proud on 27th July. That is a fact no one can change. A virtual conversation with Hatari : Sema jina lako : " Hatari " ati " Hatari " : " Umetokea Wapi ? " Hatari to questioner : " mama...%$%$!%$, baba...&^&%&!!! " LOL! Who ever Hatari is should calm down, take it easy. Your contributions can make more sense in a much calmer way. Gd luck. :-)

Hatari has also been 'hatari'on other mailing lists... Ignore his posts or (s)he'll destroy our constructive debates. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur with Philip on this. Some form of strict moderation are needed, for example...........
I agree, but mods will become full time and over burdened. I also agree that sometimes, myself included, criticise too much and it maybe putting others off on valuable contributions. But what has made me smile is Hatari, though his methods are not directed correctly. Abuse is not a good thing, respect others. MJ and Safaricom made kenya proud on 27th July. That is a fact no one can change.
A virtual conversation with Hatari :
Sema jina lako : " Hatari " ati " Hatari " : " Umetokea Wapi ? " Hatari to questioner : " mama...%$%$!%$, baba...&^&%&!!! "
LOL!
Who ever Hatari is should calm down, take it easy. Your contributions can make more sense in a much calmer way. Gd luck. :-)
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why wont the moderator banish 'hatari' or he has shares in skunkworks and we dont know? On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Musya mike <mmycool@gmail.com> wrote:
Hatari has also been 'hatari'on other mailing lists... Ignore his posts or (s)he'll destroy our constructive debates.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
I concur with Philip on this. Some form of strict moderation are needed, for example...........
I agree, but mods will become full time and over burdened. I also agree that sometimes, myself included, criticise too much and it maybe putting others off on valuable contributions. But what has made me smile is Hatari, though his methods are not directed correctly. Abuse is not a good thing, respect others. MJ and Safaricom made kenya proud on 27th July. That is a fact no one can change.
A virtual conversation with Hatari :
Sema jina lako : " Hatari " ati " Hatari " : " Umetokea Wapi ? " Hatari to questioner : " mama...%$%$!%$, baba...&^&%&!!! "
LOL!
Who ever Hatari is should calm down, take it easy. Your contributions can make more sense in a much calmer way. Gd luck. :-)
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As mentioned earlier, Hatari's signature talk is all too familiar. And if my hunch is correct, then he will soon reappear under a different guise. -- i dislike capital letters +254 722 278 106

Seems likely that Mike Okech = Onyago Hatari if you analyze the language patterns, typos, etc On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Ken Simiyu <kensimiyu@gmail.com> wrote:
As mentioned earlier, Hatari's signature talk is all too familiar. And if my hunch is correct, then he will soon reappear under a different guise.
-- i dislike capital letters
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems likely that Mike Okech = Onyago Hatari if you analyze the language patterns, typos, etc
Okay guys, let's lift the lid on this!, but first allow me to adorn my armadillo skin, if you know what I mean. You do agree with me that even on skunkworks, we've had Theus Owicho and Mike Oketch rub guys the wrong way just like Onyango Hatari is doin on KICTANet, right? I have no doubts on my mind that these three aliases represent one, Robert Alai. There are several ways to prove this. Look at the typos. Perhaps he even uses the same connection to access the three aliases so we can trace the posts back to one IP address. I am just thinking: Why would someone decide to have three (or perhaps more) aliases? Why use an alias in the first place? And it's not only Michael Joseph who has suffered his wrath on KICTANET (for those of you who are subscribed there). Robert Alai has abused Dr. Ndemo and everyone. If someone looks at skunkworks archives, you will find some reference to me and KICTANet, associated with abuse from one of the above aliases. Those convinced me that the person masquerading as Mike Oketch/Theus Owicho on skunkworks is one and the same with Onyango Hatari and are all personified as Robert Alai. I'm beginning to think the ICT Law can be applied against this Onyango Hatari person. He's abused everyone under the sun. I can see people tremble here with fear, not wanting to name names, but hey, let's lift the lid off Robert Alai. Personally I am willing to go to court to defend what I have written here. I believe I can get enough forensic evidence to link the three aliases to Robert Alai. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Well truth be told Robert Alai's forum has been blacklisted here at work . Funny thing ;) On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems likely that Mike Okech = Onyago Hatari if you analyze the language patterns, typos, etc
Okay guys, let's lift the lid on this!, but first allow me to adorn my armadillo skin, if you know what I mean.
You do agree with me that even on skunkworks, we've had Theus Owicho and Mike Oketch rub guys the wrong way just like Onyango Hatari is doin on KICTANet, right? I have no doubts on my mind that these three aliases represent one, Robert Alai. There are several ways to prove this. Look at the typos. Perhaps he even uses the same connection to access the three aliases so we can trace the posts back to one IP address. I am just thinking: Why would someone decide to have three (or perhaps more) aliases? Why use an alias in the first place? And it's not only Michael Joseph who has suffered his wrath on KICTANET (for those of you who are subscribed there). Robert Alai has abused Dr. Ndemo and everyone. If someone looks at skunkworks archives, you will find some reference to me and KICTANet, associated with abuse from one of the above aliases. Those convinced me that the person masquerading as Mike Oketch/Theus Owicho on skunkworks is one and the same with Onyango Hatari and are all personified as Robert Alai.
I'm beginning to think the ICT Law can be applied against this Onyango Hatari person. He's abused everyone under the sun. I can see people tremble here with fear, not wanting to name names, but hey, let's lift the lid off Robert Alai. Personally I am willing to go to court to defend what I have written here. I believe I can get enough forensic evidence to link the three aliases to Robert Alai.
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Well, now am shocked - if these are one and the same person ...

Or it is a case of multiple personality syndrome. All the different personas do not know about each other. But is such cases, the personas have different characters, in our case, they seem to have the same character. Anyone who has studied this syndrome can explain to us.

I see the same syndrome with Politicians only they are confident enough to come out in public! :-) I know many of the contributors in this list and have my respect for them. But do not know many of the Characters who run on aliases. Many associations recruit based on referrals. A lot of the abusive language issues might not rub the younger people on the list wrongly but are a sign of total disrespect to the more mature people on this community. If someone is not willing to stand by their critisms using their real identity I believe they should not use this forum. I vote for regulation. If I were regulating, some people would have been out of here a long time ago.... On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Or it is a case of multiple personality syndrome. All the different personas do not know about each other. But is such cases, the personas have different characters, in our case, they seem to have the same character.
Anyone who has studied this syndrome can explain to us.
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
I see the same syndrome with Politicians only they are confident enough to come out in public! :-)
I know many of the contributors in this list and have my respect for them. But do not know many of the Characters who run on aliases. Many associations recruit based on referrals. A lot of the abusive language issues might not rub the younger people on the list wrongly but are a sign of total disrespect to the more mature people on this community. If someone is not willing to stand by their critisms using their real identity I believe they should not use this forum.
I vote for regulation. If I were regulating, some people would have been out of here a long time ago....
@Joram, I can assure you that even if there were controls, we cannot take them to the level where one needs to provide more details so that they are "known". So the same bad characters will always make their way back using another alias! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Well if that alias is approved by someone who is known and attends skunk events, then we go for his/her neck..... On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
I see the same syndrome with Politicians only they are confident enough to come out in public! :-)
I know many of the contributors in this list and have my respect for them. But do not know many of the Characters who run on aliases. Many associations recruit based on referrals. A lot of the abusive language issues might not rub the younger people on the list wrongly but are a sign of total disrespect to the more mature people on this community. If someone is not willing to stand by their critisms using their real identity I believe they should not use this forum.
I vote for regulation. If I were regulating, some people would have been out of here a long time ago....
@Joram,
I can assure you that even if there were controls, we cannot take them to the level where one needs to provide more details so that they are "known". So the same bad characters will always make their way back using another alias!
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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I think may be we should call a vote on this issue. I would rather have a functioning dictatorship than a broken down democracy. Talking of calling a vote, shouldn't we form a Skunkworks Independent Elections Commission?

Joram, you don't want to cooll off your heels behind bars, do you? 2009/9/11 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
Well if that alias is approved by someone who is known and attends skunk events, then we go for his/her neck.....
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
I see the same syndrome with Politicians only they are confident enough to come out in public! :-)
I know many of the contributors in this list and have my respect for them. But do not know many of the Characters who run on aliases. Many associations recruit based on referrals. A lot of the abusive language issues might not rub the younger people on the list wrongly but are a sign of total disrespect to the more mature people on this community. If someone is not willing to stand by their critisms using their real identity I believe they should not use this forum.
I vote for regulation. If I were regulating, some people would have been out of here a long time ago....
@Joram,
I can assure you that even if there were controls, we cannot take them to the level where one needs to provide more details so that they are "known". So the same bad characters will always make their way back using another alias!
-- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Well if that alias is approved by someone who is known and attends skunk events, then we go for his/her neck.....
When someone uses aliases, and this being a virtual forum, you have no easy way of telling who the person is until you see his/her contributions:-) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

Ignoring him works in some instances for example, personally the guy has tried to be friends with me on twitter, facebook, myspace ... and all the social networks on earth, yet he knows I cannot stand his ideologies (I just wonder why he keeps trying) and so I just ignore his requests. On another hand, we cannot build a very large good community of like minded persons, and one individual comes and destroys all this - I say ban him and ban him and continue banning him till the end of time when he comes with new aliases. I would personally not get tired of doing this until he can show some restrain. ./Ok3ch On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Well if that alias is approved by someone who is known and attends skunk events, then we go for his/her neck.....
When someone uses aliases, and this being a virtual forum, you have no easy way of telling who the person is until you see his/her contributions:-)
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Can someone write a script to discover his new alias? With the typos in the email body it should be easy to do. The attach a warning to all his messages regardless of the alias?

am beginning to think that we need a psychiatrist to find the motive behind the guys action. On 11/09/2009, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone write a script to discover his new alias? With the typos in the email body it should be easy to do. The attach a warning to all his messages regardless of the alias?
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interesting... On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
am beginning to think that we need a psychiatrist to find the motive behind the guys action.
yesterday kictanet folks unilaterally decided that "Alex Gakuru"="Onyango Hatari" and therefore blocked my posts the list, without even the least bit of information that I had been blocked(which they've confirmed today). I asked to be then completely unsusbcribed. I also told them that whereas there may be united condemnation of whomever "Onyango Hatari" was (hopefully they believe that it is not me:), that it may be more useful to think about addressing the reasons for the deep dangerous rage inside Hatari's messages. Are they structural society frustrations leading the poor guy to vent his anger often on innocent folks? Indeed, can skunkworks itself stand and be counted as "living testimony of our perfect technology-enabling prosperity environment?"... just thinking aloud here fro unless the root causes are somehow addressed by someone, then we would only be wishing away realities facing the guy out there. Which in Kenya we normally do this with perfection!!!

Bwana Alex, I for one cannot and will not take Onyango Hatari seriously. How does tribal clashes, racism and land grabbing come up in the context of submarine cables? That chap is a classic example of the interet troll who thrives on inciting the community to anger/frustration/disgust. He gets his kicks from attention, not substance. Look at how many responses he elicited. That was his agenda. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
interesting...
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
am beginning to think that we need a psychiatrist to find the motive behind the guys action.
yesterday kictanet folks unilaterally decided that "Alex Gakuru"="Onyango Hatari" and therefore blocked my posts the list, without even the least bit of information that I had been blocked(which they've confirmed today). I asked to be then completely unsusbcribed.
I also told them that whereas there may be united condemnation of whomever "Onyango Hatari" was (hopefully they believe that it is not me:), that it may be more useful to think about addressing the reasons for the deep dangerous rage inside Hatari's messages. Are they structural society frustrations leading the poor guy to vent his anger often on innocent folks?
Indeed, can skunkworks itself stand and be counted as "living testimony of our perfect technology-enabling prosperity environment?"... just thinking aloud here fro unless the root causes are somehow addressed by someone, then we would only be wishing away realities facing the guy out there. Which in Kenya we normally do this with perfection!!! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

Yes, just intended hate speech is something that must be avoided! On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
Bwana Alex, I for one cannot and will not take Onyango Hatari seriously. How does tribal clashes, racism and land grabbing come up in the context of submarine cables? That chap is a classic example of the interet troll who thrives on inciting the community to anger/frustration/disgust. He gets his kicks from attention, not substance. Look at how many responses he elicited. That was his agenda.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
interesting...
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
am beginning to think that we need a psychiatrist to find the motive behind the guys action.
yesterday kictanet folks unilaterally decided that "Alex Gakuru"="Onyango Hatari" and therefore blocked my posts the list, without even the least bit of information that I had been blocked(which they've confirmed today). I asked to be then completely unsusbcribed.
I also told them that whereas there may be united condemnation of whomever "Onyango Hatari" was (hopefully they believe that it is not me:), that it may be more useful to think about addressing the reasons for the deep dangerous rage inside Hatari's messages. Are they structural society frustrations leading the poor guy to vent his anger often on innocent folks?
Indeed, can skunkworks itself stand and be counted as "living testimony of our perfect technology-enabling prosperity environment?"... just thinking aloud here fro unless the root causes are somehow addressed by someone, then we would only be wishing away realities facing the guy out there. Which in Kenya we normally do this with perfection!!! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
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There is no need for keeping arrogant people on this list. We are looking like those people who blame the government when it rains really hard. These people who are giving us a bad public Image should not be treated like good buddies, let them leave the list without any reservations. How can an individual using aliases cause havoc to the rest of the people? Waende kabisa! 2009/9/11 Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
I see the same syndrome with Politicians only they are confident enough to come out in public! :-)
I know many of the contributors in this list and have my respect for them. But do not know many of the Characters who run on aliases. Many associations recruit based on referrals. A lot of the abusive language issues might not rub the younger people on the list wrongly but are a sign of total disrespect to the more mature people on this community. If someone is not willing to stand by their critisms using their real identity I believe they should not use this forum.
I vote for regulation. If I were regulating, some people would have been out of here a long time ago....
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
Or it is a case of multiple personality syndrome. All the different personas do not know about each other. But is such cases, the personas have different characters, in our case, they seem to have the same character.
Anyone who has studied this syndrome can explain to us.
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Even the blog ain't there anymore!! On 9/11/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/9/11 Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com>
Well truth be told Robert Alai's forum has been blacklisted here at work . Funny thing ;)
Just got word that Google has also killed Bidii Africa ... i have not verified this yet.
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After some research, this is what comes up : Could be the reason for the outbursts.... http://groups.google.com/group/google-groups-guide/search?enc_author=m2kN1jc...

Yeah, the group has been killed along with his blog... On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote:
After some research, this is what comes up : Could be the reason for the outbursts....
http://groups.google.com/group/google-groups-guide/search?enc_author=m2kN1jc...
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Bidii Afrika is no longer listed on Google Groups. Noe I can laugh my way all to the internet. This aliases on this list, lazima waende! Empty debes, amke most useless noise! 2009/9/11 John Macharia <kihahu@gmail.com>
Even the blog ain't there anymore!!
On 9/11/09, David Njuki <njukey@gmail.com> wrote:
2009/9/11 Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com>
Well truth be told Robert Alai's forum has been blacklisted here at work . Funny thing ;)
Just got word that Google has also killed Bidii Africa ... i have not verified this yet.
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At long last google has acted. I did put several complains about this goup and even to google office in Kenya - this is the one to go, I mean its not the flies that have a proble, the shit must be smelling - opps, excuse my foul lang. ./Ok3ch 2009/9/11 Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>

@ Okechukwu, watch out before you become the next *Persona non grata*, Just Joking, though! 2009/9/11 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
At long last google has acted. I did put several complains about this goup and even to google office in Kenya - this is the one to go, I mean its not the flies that have a proble, the shit must be smelling - opps, excuse my foul lang.
./Ok3ch
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If Google has really killed BidiiAfrica, I am buying beers.

here here, send beer on my paypal account :-) On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
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I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
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I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
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Someone please confirm that he has been banned on this list already. Because of his uncharacteristic silence on this honeypot of a thread... Oh no, wait.... ... he might have taken on another alias!!!! frick!!! -- i dislike capital letters +254 722 278 106

This man has kept you guys busy and BidiiAfrika is alive and kicking just locked which is common in many groups http://groups.google.co.ke/group/bidiiafrika?hl=en&lnk= I dont think that BidiiAfrika will die such a death and I dont know where Odhiambo is coming from but he is so much addicted surely to this Alai. Nobody mentioned Alai here but Odhiambo had to bring it. Kwani what did Alai do to you Odhiambo? I just talked to Roberts brother and he is surely coming back. His phone is off but the brother just told me that he is launching a more powerful system. I never engage in empty and very ineffective fights. Odhiambo if you want me call me face to face and we sort it out I am not related to Robert but I know his family from way back and so continue fighting On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Ken Simiyu <kensimiyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Someone please confirm that he has been banned on this list already. Because of his uncharacteristic silence on this honeypot of a thread...
Oh no, wait.... ...
he might have taken on another alias!!!!
frick!!!
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
Online aliases, anonymous... they are just but hypothesis, imaginations, zote bure... Best thing is to adopt an honesty policy because sooner or later technology with catch up with you. Here's a model's experience: "Canadian woman wins lawsuit against Google" <http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=1909420> What to do? Only put down on e- that which can repeat in form of your mother or write down on a post card.

Who is this Robert Alai guy? I remember him trolling in another list 2 years ago. There should be a commission of inquiry! On 11/09/2009, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
here here, send beer on my paypal account :-)
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If Google has really killed BidiiAfrica, I am buying beers.
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I agree. The man is an enigma. The man who keeps the whole ICT industry in Kenya scared. Not even the cyber crime unit can do that. FBI should get in touch with this guy. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
Who is this Robert Alai guy? I remember him trolling in another list 2 years ago. There should be a commission of inquiry!
On 11/09/2009, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
here here, send beer on my paypal account :-)
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
If Google has really killed BidiiAfrica, I am buying beers.
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funny u almost sound like him@theus On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree. The man is an enigma. The man who keeps the whole ICT industry in Kenya scared. Not even the cyber crime unit can do that. FBI should get in touch with this guy.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com>wrote:
Who is this Robert Alai guy? I remember him trolling in another list 2 years ago. There should be a commission of inquiry!
On 11/09/2009, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
here here, send beer on my paypal account :-)
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If Google has really killed BidiiAfrica, I am buying beers.
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All, Let this thread die. It has outlived it's usefulness. I hope I am the last one to post. Regards, Laban On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
funny u almost sound like him@theus
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree. The man is an enigma. The man who keeps the whole ICT industry in Kenya scared. Not even the cyber crime unit can do that. FBI should get in touch with this guy.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com>wrote:
Who is this Robert Alai guy? I remember him trolling in another list 2 years ago. There should be a commission of inquiry!
On 11/09/2009, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
here here, send beer on my paypal account :-)
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
If Google has really killed BidiiAfrica, I am buying beers.
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Imelda I sound like him maybe because we are all Luos and we come from the same area. So maybe I sound like him but I am more in banking and Financials than in IT. I just wonder why the whole fixation with the guy. What makes him get full all these coverage from last year everywhere you go. The man attracts an audience. The last time I went to his meeting at The Hood last year he was addressing almost 300 people with Orie Rogo Manduli, Hon Millie Odhiambo, Charles Keter, Kepta Ombati, Orina Nyamwamu, Ann Njogu, senior NMG editors, Standard Writers and many people present. Infact I remember him having a big argument with The Hood management on the meeting because it was just too big Alai will be back. Living off nothing but the internet for more than two years is hard and this man knows his way through the maze. If you know him from Secondary School you will know that this man has lived a full life. The only Kenyan who dared cross into a wartorn country to look for a job immediately after Narc came to power and he went and worked there for many years (I think more than 4 years) being returned back and him going back until his contract was over. I think that Alai should come to one of the Skunkers meeting and tell you more about his escapedes liek his friend Kuria Mwangi and Gichaba are doing in BidiiAfrika. Life fully lived and he has your attention. Everybody is watching his move. And they are scared. The only way to tame spammers and online bullies is basically to ignore them, block their addresses and apply filters. Insulting them and ganging up and looking for sympathy will never control them. http://www.thinkuknow.co.uk/11_16/control/cyber.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSup... http://idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?s=3bedba5445fc9ece0015db3959d2... On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
funny u almost sound like him@theus
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree. The man is an enigma. The man who keeps the whole ICT industry in Kenya scared. Not even the cyber crime unit can do that. FBI should get in touch with this guy.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com>wrote:
Who is this Robert Alai guy? I remember him trolling in another list 2 years ago. There should be a commission of inquiry!
On 11/09/2009, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
here here, send beer on my paypal account :-)
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote:
If Google has really killed BidiiAfrica, I am buying beers.
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ok theus so he has rubbed shoulders with all the big fish in the market, honestly what he has achieved i think is great too, but him stepping in every one toes just to get attention! please don't me another speech on his fully lived life ....................am done with this thread On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Imelda
I sound like him maybe because we are all Luos and we come from the same area. So maybe I sound like him but I am more in banking and Financials than in IT. I just wonder why the whole fixation with the guy.
What makes him get full all these coverage from last year everywhere you go. The man attracts an audience. The last time I went to his meeting at The Hood last year he was addressing almost 300 people with Orie Rogo Manduli, Hon Millie Odhiambo, Charles Keter, Kepta Ombati, Orina Nyamwamu, Ann Njogu, senior NMG editors, Standard Writers and many people present.
Infact I remember him having a big argument with The Hood management on the meeting because it was just too big
Alai will be back. Living off nothing but the internet for more than two years is hard and this man knows his way through the maze.
If you know him from Secondary School you will know that this man has lived a full life. The only Kenyan who dared cross into a wartorn country to look for a job immediately after Narc came to power and he went and worked there for many years (I think more than 4 years) being returned back and him going back until his contract was over.
I think that Alai should come to one of the Skunkers meeting and tell you more about his escapedes liek his friend Kuria Mwangi and Gichaba are doing in BidiiAfrika.
Life fully lived and he has your attention. Everybody is watching his move. And they are scared. The only way to tame spammers and online bullies is basically to ignore them, block their addresses and apply filters. Insulting them and ganging up and looking for sympathy will never control them.
http://www.thinkuknow.co.uk/11_16/control/cyber.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSup...
http://idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?s=3bedba5445fc9ece0015db3959d2...
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
funny u almost sound like him@theus
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree. The man is an enigma. The man who keeps the whole ICT industry in Kenya scared. Not even the cyber crime unit can do that. FBI should get in touch with this guy.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com>wrote:
Who is this Robert Alai guy? I remember him trolling in another list 2 years ago. There should be a commission of inquiry!
On 11/09/2009, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
here here, send beer on my paypal account :-)
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ATI, Odhiambo, Okechukwu, Mburu, Musyoki, Phares surely love this man. I will call all of you for a beer with him and maybe you guys might just be best of friends. We dont need fights, we need more friends online and offline On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:48 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
ok theus
so he has rubbed shoulders with all the big fish in the market, honestly what he has achieved i think is great too, but him stepping in every one toes just to get attention!
please don't me another speech on his fully lived life ....................am done with this thread
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
Imelda
I sound like him maybe because we are all Luos and we come from the same area. So maybe I sound like him but I am more in banking and Financials than in IT. I just wonder why the whole fixation with the guy.
What makes him get full all these coverage from last year everywhere you go. The man attracts an audience. The last time I went to his meeting at The Hood last year he was addressing almost 300 people with Orie Rogo Manduli, Hon Millie Odhiambo, Charles Keter, Kepta Ombati, Orina Nyamwamu, Ann Njogu, senior NMG editors, Standard Writers and many people present.
Infact I remember him having a big argument with The Hood management on the meeting because it was just too big
Alai will be back. Living off nothing but the internet for more than two years is hard and this man knows his way through the maze.
If you know him from Secondary School you will know that this man has lived a full life. The only Kenyan who dared cross into a wartorn country to look for a job immediately after Narc came to power and he went and worked there for many years (I think more than 4 years) being returned back and him going back until his contract was over.
I think that Alai should come to one of the Skunkers meeting and tell you more about his escapedes liek his friend Kuria Mwangi and Gichaba are doing in BidiiAfrika.
Life fully lived and he has your attention. Everybody is watching his move. And they are scared. The only way to tame spammers and online bullies is basically to ignore them, block their addresses and apply filters. Insulting them and ganging up and looking for sympathy will never control them.
http://www.thinkuknow.co.uk/11_16/control/cyber.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSup...
http://idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?s=3bedba5445fc9ece0015db3959d2...
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM, I. Ati <mueni0@gmail.com> wrote:
funny u almost sound like him@theus
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree. The man is an enigma. The man who keeps the whole ICT industry in Kenya scared. Not even the cyber crime unit can do that. FBI should get in touch with this guy.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com>wrote:
Who is this Robert Alai guy? I remember him trolling in another list 2 years ago. There should be a commission of inquiry!
On 11/09/2009, Paul Njoroge <njorogekamau@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to have an alias (bigquark), on this list, gave up on the whole idea after a confrontation with this character(s), actually 2 impersonations of the same guy on the same thread.. J
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
> here here, send beer on my paypal account :-) > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Philip Musyoki > <pmusyoki@gmail.com>wrote: > >> If Google has really killed BidiiAfrica, I am buying beers. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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Hehehe, Solomon, I attack constructively what I believe in, I never hit under the belt, and never use aliases - heheheh ./Ok3ch On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Okechukwu, watch out before you become the next *Persona non grata*, Just Joking, though!
2009/9/11 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
At long last google has acted. I did put several complains about this goup and even to google office in Kenya - this is the one to go, I mean its not the flies that have a proble, the shit must be smelling - opps, excuse my foul lang.
./Ok3ch
2009/9/11 Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
At long last google has acted. I did put several complains about this goup and even to google office in Kenya - this is the one to go, I mean its not the flies that have a proble, the shit must be smelling - opps, excuse my foul lang.
Grace be to the Lord Most High! Google has teeth, finally!! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube
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