Also note if he is going beyond 2GB of RAM the OS needs to be changed to a 64-bit OS. R D On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Of good note is that increasing RAM increases speed of processing but only up to a certain limit, thats why certain processor specs will only take certain RAM of certain speed and capacity. This calculation is already done for you by the computer manufacturer.
./Ok3ch
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
+1 @Agosta
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Mac example helps.
Alot of RAM (fast RAM) reduces the need for Paging ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging)
Paging is slow because disks are fragmented, have moving parts etc etc etc (you dont want speed to depend on disk RPM)
SSDs have no mechanical parts so faster and use less battery ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive)
In databases its worse ... if you have enough memory, you can pin the whole database on RAM, if not, there will be delays as you wait for data pages to to picked from the disks.
Fast drives(SSD) help, Fast RAM helps - in a perfect world, you get fast drives, ram and cpu
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Gichingiri Kuria <gmail@gichingiri.com>wrote:
I'm not sure if / how this fits in the arguement: I have a similar macbook and changing the harddisk to an SSD has major speed increase in booting, opening apps and general use if the comp. I haven't increased the ram yet, but so far its like a new machine.
On 3 May 2013 21:20, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
I think what he/she was trying to say is there is a point after which adding more RAM doesn't add value. Once you reach a balance between the CPU and RAM then adding more RAM will not make the PC run any faster even with shorter access times since the CPU can only take up so much.
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Paul Roy <roykoikai@gmail.com> wrote:
Ashamed to respond to this, but can you simply look at the processor idle time...there lies the answer.
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> You actually argued? You have lotsa patience. He probably doesnt > appreciate how the pc does what it does. More ram is in my opinion better > than a faster processor when trying to increase processing capacity. > > > On Friday, 3 May 2013, george wrote: > >> Really? Does he also think tupac is alive? >> On May 3, 2013 7:40 PM, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ask him a simple question: How does a computer use RAM? If he >>> answers that, then perhaps you'll be excused if you asked him the >>> significance of having more RAM. Also, might he be knowing the need for a >>> swapfile/paging file/virtual memory? Nkt >>> >>> RAM is a temporary computing space. With multitasking, and larger >>> RAM, several processes get to run and be completed as opposed to having to >>> wait for "limited temporary computing space (low RAM)" to be available so >>> that other processes can run. >>> >>> How does he define "speed" in computing terms? >>> >>> If he says more RAM does not help a computer, he should better go >>> back to Abacus. I think it never required RAM:) >>> >>> He should be stripped of the "techie" tag! I concur. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 May 2013 19:08, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So I am having this argument of a lifetime with a respected, >>>> local techie journalist: >>>> >>>> *His argument:* >>>> That increasing the RAM of a computer does not necessarily >>>> increase its speed or responsiveness. >>>> >>>> *If you add more RAM, the processor speed wont change in any >>>> way, you will only have huge jobs stored on the RAM (Because of its large >>>> capacity) but the processing time will be the same, hence the computer wont >>>> be fast enough as you would expect.* >>>> >>>> *My argument* >>>> That he is nuts and should be stripped of the respected techie >>>> journalist tag. I hold that more RAM will definitely result into some speed >>>> improvement. >>>> >>>> *The source of the argument:* >>>> An Apple MacBook (13-inch, Late 2007)<http://support.apple.com/kb/sp12>, >>>> with a 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo<http://ark.intel.com/products/30781>, >>>> and currently with 1GB DDR 2 PC2-5300 RAM. The laptop is running Mac OS X >>>> 10.5. >>>> >>>> Now, he says that upgrading this machine to 4GB is a waste of >>>> money, since there will be no change in the speed of the laptop, because, >>>> that processor can only handle 1GB, the factory installed RAM. >>>> >>>> Can a more learned skunk explain the folly of my/his argument. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>>> ------------ >>>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> > > -- > Regards, > > Mark Mwangi > > markmwangi.me.ke > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > skunkworks mailing list > skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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