People, Words of advice from someone who has been shafted more times than he can count: 1) Break the project up into pieces (us consultants call them "Phases') 2) Have a deliverable at the end of each Phase (piece) and a fee to be paid upon delivery *before* the next phase is undertaken 3) Have a down-payment/commitment fee payable in order to start (10%-30%) depending on size of contract and duration 4) Have the client sign off each phase *before* moving on to the next These tips can save a lot of stress, misunderstanding and unnecessary grief. Mblayo On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>wrote:
Its true, contract first, but you will also understand sometimes the jobs are so hard to come by such that when a guy lands something like, especially newly minted techies, they end up being so excited that contracts are nowhere in their minds,and the client can tell this, until they're conned. I think as professionals, main thing is to know what you're worth and value your skills and knowledge appropriately, even if your broke. Insist on terms of service (contracts, etc) first before you do anything....
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Johnny Tsunami <onamij@gmail.com> wrote:
Its a good idea to have the contract before commencing any job.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Withholding tax went up to 10%. And that was last years budget reading. This year they went after landlords.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>wrote:
The only solution is "lemonjuice the images" or as you say "A dead man's switch"
On 25 June 2012 14:09, joe mwirigi <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote:
@wilson
as I said, it was a friend, though i had similar incidences way back in 06, well, am so mad yet this wasn't me. I just hope I would have the composure to walk away with the cheque or the decency of not triggering a dead man's switch from my phone after cashing it.:-)
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Wilson Bandi <bandson67@gmail.com>wrote:
Joe,
I think and believe we are the smartest of all industries so the worst you could do was to create a bug and when they call you back to fix it, then you demand a new contract. The best you could do was to know how to read a contract!... how could the money part miss you?
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Kiti Chigiri <kiti.chigiri@gmail.com > wrote:
> Lesson #2: Repeat lesson 1 > > You can also get free copies of sample contracts to guide you in > passing lesson 1 & 2 from www.docracy.com > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Lesson one. Don't write a line of code without a signed contract >> On 25 Jun 2012 12:08, "joe mwirigi" <joemwirigi@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Well tried to help myself but couldn't, had to share this from a >>> friend, >>> >>> (1) Did a job, agreed quote [50k] a DB and a website >>> (2) Finished the job, the lawfirm wrote a contract on which the >>> pay was 30k. >>> (3) Pal->What about the 50K we agreed upon?, lawyers-> we never >>> had a contract on that. >>> (4) Lawyers -> take it or leave it 30k cheque is ready after you >>> train us. >>> (5) Pissed he trains vowing never to do this kind of job again >>> (6) After training -> here is your 27k cheque ->we paid 10% to KRA >>> on your behalf. >>> >>> Well this story is so real and so kenyan.... >>> Guys I guess we should all know how to protect ourselves not so >>> much from other business owners but those who seemingly >>> seem to fight for rights (this was a firm that deals with 'human >>> rights of soughts'). >>> >>> Sorry to lawyers here, I know you are all so good and never take >>> advantage of the non-legally-minded >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *_______________________________________________________________ >>> We must Keep on, >>> * >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> ------------ >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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