Hi all, I agree with Amanya. A divided house cannot rule. We should focus more on uplifting others than bringing them down. We all start somewhere and I think it is good when we correct others with gentleness and love. It is through this that we will be able to be an industry and not a service to other established industries. At times we are very fast to criticize ISPs and other companies that offer us services while it is very evident we have never been in the running of such companies to know what the challenges they face each day so that we can enjoy the services. In my opinion, I think this group should rise to the point of suggesting new technologies that will make such service provides improve in their operations. You will never correct anyone with criticism. And who knows whatever you are doing to someone today might catch up with you at some point in life. Regards Richard Gathogo. *+254752847158* ***+4521843194 ** Java Developer*,* * * Skype: muraguri2005* On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
"If you have nothing positive to say, then silence is also a statement" ~ Anon (or did I just make that up?)
./Ok3ch
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Amanya,
This would be a very positive step ... Towards a building a community of peers or that of peer reviews and not "peer putdown"
I would like to go further and request the organisers to consider having some monthly meetups ... Skunkworks used to have them ... Where we can all grow together
Thanks
Agosta Liko Founder @ www.verviant.com and www.pesapal.com
On 8/4/11, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
hi all
it appears to me that we have increasingly turned this into a space to gripe. leading to a member wondering why anyone bothers to bring their website for review. is this the best we can do and be?
we are hostile to people's shortcomings; even pointing out member's spelling mistakes. we, and i include myself, have tended to be quick to cut each other down. (and while thinking about this, i realized the tone of a recent post could have been polite and will be sending an apology off list. or should i do this on list?)
what if our interest was to reach out as opposed to shoot down? is it possible to end this trend where members associated with particular organizations "lurk" on the list? can we reach out to industry players and say blog about whatever products they are bringing to the market having interviewed them? could we appreciate an idea and be understanding when its execution has hurdles?
i fear for as long we are outside looking in, what we take for influence is nothing but hubris.
a favorite TED talk is the Steve Jobs, 2005 Stanford Commencement Address, How to live before you die, http://goo.gl/aHefs (31MB). At the end he advices us to stay hungry, stay foolish. and that is a mantra we could do with as skunks.
-- age is an issue of mind over matter. if you don't mind, it doesn't matter - mark twain
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